GGajewski18 Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 Chris Russo says he wouldn't go past 15 million a year for Cespedes and Upton lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 QUOTE (SoCalSox @ Jan 11, 2016 -> 12:10 PM) Angels rumored to be 2 of the 3 finalist for Gerardo Parra on a 3 year deal. Take that FWIW. Just posted that in the Parra thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalSox Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 I will say, it's very weird to see the secondary market dropping into place before the top end settles. The Angels signing Parra would be good for the Sox's chances of landing an upgrade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 QUOTE (Lillian @ Jan 11, 2016 -> 12:02 PM) I keep saying it because it is still what I think makes the most sense, for all of the reasons which I articulated earlier. I wasn't trying to beat a dead horse, but rather simply stating that after all of the speculation, I haven't changed my mind. It's just my opinion. I can't really believe that this organization is going to let one year's "budget restraints" dictate their chance for being competitive this year, when they have already stated that they intend to contend, and have traded several promising prospects to acquire two guys with just 2 years left, before free agency. What was the point of that, if they aren't going to try to contend? I believe that they could figure out a way to make it work financially. What about all of this revenue that everyone keeps talking about? They know that the money for La Roche and Danks will be coming off of the books next year. That is a certainty, so there must be a way to work around that. If not, then they just have to accept that they are not only not going to be competitive, but that they will also be totally irrelevant in Chicago. The problem with the second tier guys is that not one of them can bat between Abreu and Frazier, and Frazier's .310 OBP won't cut it, at clean up. Too many of us are focused upon an acquisition to play right field. That is only half of the equation. they need a clean up hitter. Cespedes or Upton would fill that role nicely. You're missing my point. My guess is they'll already have to go above their budget to land one of these guys. Do you really think KW or Hahn will go Reinsdorf for even more money on top of the base cost just so they can front-load a deal to help "motivate" their biggest signing in franchise history? Reinsdorf would probably call off the deal on the spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 QUOTE (SoCalSox @ Jan 11, 2016 -> 12:13 PM) I will say, it's very weird to see the secondary market dropping into place before the top end settles. The Angels signing Parra would be good for the Sox's chances of landing an upgrade. Because Cespedes & Upton are both desperate for Baltimore to enter the mix to maximize their dollars. The second tier guys that are smart aren't going to wait for Davis to make up his mind or else they might be out of a multi-year job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 QUOTE (SoCalSox @ Jan 11, 2016 -> 01:10 PM) Angels rumored to be 2 of the 3 finalist for Gerardo Parra on a 3 year deal. Take that FWIW. I guessed Detroit for Parra. Are they in it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 @JonHeyman tigers, 1 of MLB's most improved, would be interesting adding lhh Davis to miggy, martinezes middle. $ a real question tho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Lopez's Ghost Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Jan 11, 2016 -> 11:16 AM) You just know if Raburn came here, he would get hurt, and hit 220 and be released mid season, go to the Royals, and continue to shell us. If he Came here, he wouldn't be hitting against us. Totally ruins his career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 This thread will get to 175 pages by the time Cespedes or Upton signs with anyone. Almost debating putting Desmond and Davis into this list as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Jan 11, 2016 -> 06:58 PM) This thread will get to 175 pages by the time Cespedes or Upton signs with anyone. Almost debating putting Desmond and Davis into this list as well. I think Desmond is more likely than Upton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 https://twitter.com/IB_BlueJays/status/686613259194077184 Look at Cespedes' whip lmao Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 Cespedes is apparently looking for $150 million. Nobody is giving him that at this point. http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/2016/1/11/1074...ee-agent-rumors Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmarComing25 Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Jan 11, 2016 -> 01:28 PM) Cespedes is apparently looking for $150 million. Nobody is giving him that at this point. http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/2016/1/11/1074...ee-agent-rumors And it's highly unlikely that anyone will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 Detroit Tigers Buzz @tigersbuzztap 18m18 minutes ago http://blessyouboys.com >> J.D. Martinez is recruiting Yoenis Cespedes http://buzztap.com/-5KYE5e Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lillian Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jan 11, 2016 -> 12:17 PM) You're missing my point. My guess is they'll already have to go above their budget to land one of these guys. Do you really think KW or Hahn will go Reinsdorf for even more money on top of the base cost just so they can front-load a deal to help "motivate" their biggest signing in franchise history? Reinsdorf would probably call off the deal on the spot. I understand your point, and it is a valid concern. The Chairman of the Board may indeed balk at such a suggestion, however I still think that it is a wise direction, in which to go. But then, what the hell do I know? I'm just a fan, and he is the Chairman of the Board!!! If they want to keep the player motivated, and have him elect to opt out, so that they don't end up having to pay for 5 or 6 years, including 1 or 2 past his prime, that is the best chance to accomplish it. Edited January 11, 2016 by Lillian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 Has this been a fun process? I can't decide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 (edited) Well, we've seen posturing by the Sox and their "3 year" stance and I feel it's likely that Cespedes and his agent are posturing on their 6/150M stance. Wherever Cespedes signs he's going to have to meet the team half way somehow. I'd like to see the linger for a bit longer in the Cespedes/Upton talks but at some point they should call it a day and move on to other options while those options are still available. If Upton or Cespedes won't take a contract in the 3 or 4 year range with a possible vesting option, then f*** em, move on. Edited January 11, 2016 by BlackSox13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 QUOTE (bmags @ Jan 11, 2016 -> 01:39 PM) Has this been a fun process? I can't decide. If the alternative was to not be connected to anyone, and recycle last years roster, I'll take some hope and let down, over depression. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalSox Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 I think now would be a great idea to simply temper expectations on what the Sox will do. I think they upgrade at the position but may not be Cespedes or Upton. May be a 2nd level guy like Fowler, Parra, or a trade option. Detroit is rumored to be getting more involved & frankly I think the longer this drags out, the less likely it is that they end up with the top 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 Detroit was my fear and if anyone will pony up money it's them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 QUOTE (SoCalSox @ Jan 11, 2016 -> 09:01 PM) I think now would be a great idea to simply temper expectations on what the Sox will do. Problem with the Tigers getting Cespedes is it could make them really good the next two years or so, which is supposedly the Sox window as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 11, 2016 -> 01:58 PM) If the alternative was to not be connected to anyone, and recycle last years roster, I'll take some hope and let down, over depression. Right - I guess having a lot to talk about in december was worth 6 months straight of "Sox signed Jerry Sands" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saufley Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Jan 11, 2016 -> 01:43 PM) Well, we've seen posturing by the Sox and their "3 year" stance and I feel it's likely that Cespedes and his agent are posturing on their 6/150M stance. Wherever Cespedes signs he's going to have to meet the team half way somehow. I'd like to see the linger for a bit longer in the Cespedes/Upton talks but at some point they should call it a day and move on to other options while those options are still available. If Upton or Cespedes won't take a contract in the 3 or 4 year range with a possible vesting option, then f*** em, move on. At this point, I would have no problem with moving on while other options are available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Jan 11, 2016 -> 02:04 PM) Detroit was my fear and if anyone will pony up money it's them. I'll believe it when I see it. The luxury tax thing is a real concern. They are absolutely screwed going forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalSox Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 QUOTE (fathom @ Jan 11, 2016 -> 12:05 PM) Problem with the Tigers getting Cespedes is it could make them really good the next two years or so, which is supposedly the Sox window as well. I don't disagree & this has been my worst fear all along. Gordon back to KC & Cespedes back to Det. I think the Sox are on the edge of contention right now & a big add like Cespedes or Upton puts them over the top. Fowler/Parra is an upgrade but isn't as big of an impact. Overall, I think if they do choose to sign a "B" type FA, they need to put the rest of that money elsewhere. I'm worried about the back end of their rotation, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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