hogan873 Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Dec 31, 2015 -> 11:04 AM) I don't think the opt out has really anything to do with slowing things down. Maybe for Upton's case but not the other 2. Or the second tier free agents. Probably true, but I think it still slows the signing of all three. Once one gets signed, I think the other two go quickly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saufley Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Dec 31, 2015 -> 10:56 AM) There is life outside baseball offseason rumors just to let everyone know. Â Yes, it's called Fantasy Baseball!! Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpd9189 Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 Heyman seems to think the Sox are the faves to land Gordon. Â http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/writer/jon-he...-more-mlb-notes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 QUOTE (hi8is @ Dec 31, 2015 -> 11:08 AM) How does one gain access to this life beyond baseball rumors that you speak of? Â Bobby Boucher, baseball is the sport of the devil! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipps Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 QUOTE (dpd9189 @ Dec 31, 2015 -> 11:21 AM) Heyman seems to think the Sox are the faves to land Gordon.  http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/writer/jon-he...-more-mlb-notes  Oh for the love of God will this roller coaster just end already?!  Now back to Gordon?! I was already over that happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 QUOTE (dpd9189 @ Dec 31, 2015 -> 11:21 AM) Heyman seems to think the Sox are the faves to land Gordon. Â http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/writer/jon-he...-more-mlb-notes Nice article. Surprised that 154 million contract for Davis is still on the table Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 QUOTE (shipps @ Dec 31, 2015 -> 11:29 AM) Oh for the love of God will this roller coaster just end already?! Now back to Gordon?! I was already over that happening. Exactly my thoughts as well.   I don't know how much more of this I can handle before my head explodes. Come on Rick, just sign of one of them!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalSox Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 QUOTE (shipps @ Dec 31, 2015 -> 09:29 AM) Oh for the love of God will this roller coaster just end already?! Now back to Gordon?! I was already over that happening.  Honestly, I'm not sure anyone knows what is going on.  The good news is, they continue to be listed as front runners for 2 of the 3. Sure looks like Upton is out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipps Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 QUOTE (SoCalSox @ Dec 31, 2015 -> 11:34 AM) Honestly, I'm not sure anyone knows what is going on. Â The good news is, they continue to be listed as front runners for 2 of the 3. Sure looks like Upton is out. Â Which means they will probably get Upton. LMAO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmarComing25 Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 How much money does KC have to spend? If they sign Gallardo for $14-16 million/year, do they still have enough for Gordon, even at a decent discount? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunt Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 Anyone else see that Heyman mention as a plant? I think they made the offer to Cespedes and want him to accept quickly. I think it's pretty apparent Gordon wants to go back to KC at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalSox Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 QUOTE (shipps @ Dec 31, 2015 -> 09:35 AM) Which means they will probably get Upton. LMAO Â LOL. I would love that personally. He's my favorite of the 3. Â There are pros & cons to each of them but I think we can all agree that any of the 3 would be a huge upgrade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalSox Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Dec 31, 2015 -> 09:36 AM) How much money does KC have to spend? If they sign Gallardo for $14-16 million/year, do they still have enough for Gordon, even at a decent discount? Â I honestly think he'd sign a 4 year deal at $15M AAV to stay in KC. I think all these guys are realizing that their market isn't going to land nearly as much as they thought. Â Was talking to a friend last night & he brought up a good point. Â Heyward signs for less than most expected, which already somewhat hurt the rest of the OF market. Â Upton seems the most set at waiting it out & now there are rumors of him taking a 1 year deal. Â Cespedes has already talked about firing his agent once this year & I think they simply overstated his market & he's having a hard time coming back to reality now. Â Gordon obviously wants to stay with KC but wants to be making more than someone like Melky. I think he'll use all the leverage he has, especially with his agent to get KC has high as possible & will ultimately re-sign with them for lesser money than any other offer he gets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 I have no clue what's going on LOL. I'm just waiting now til one of the mainstream guys says White Sox ink X OF to deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalSox Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Dec 31, 2015 -> 09:41 AM) I have no clue what's going on LOL. I'm just waiting now til one of the mainstream guys says White Sox ink X OF to deal. Â That's really all we can do right now. It's good news that they continue to be linked to these guys though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 QUOTE (SoCalSox @ Dec 31, 2015 -> 12:40 PM) I honestly think he'd sign a 4 year deal at $15M AAV to stay in KC. I think all these guys are realizing that their market isn't going to land nearly as much as they thought. Was talking to a friend last night & he brought up a good point.  Heyward signs for less than most expected, which already somewhat hurt the rest of the OF market.  Upton seems the most set at waiting it out & now there are rumors of him taking a 1 year deal.  Cespedes has already talked about firing his agent once this year & I think they simply overstated his market & he's having a hard time coming back to reality now.  Gordon obviously wants to stay with KC but wants to be making more than someone like Melky. I think he'll use all the leverage he has, especially with his agent to get KC has high as possible & will ultimately re-sign with them for lesser money than any other offer he gets.   Agreed. I see Gordon going back to KC. That should leave us with Cespedes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpd9189 Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 I think the Gordon signing comes first (where ever he does sign). After that I expect the market to shift more to Cespedes and Upton. Â Also reading between the lines I think Gordon might be the most realistic option for the Sox. If he signs with KC or someone else, I don't like the Sox' odds of getting the other two when you have to compete with teams like Detroit, SF, LAA, STL, etc. Teams that have been known to spend the big money. Â Gordon might not be as flashy as the other two but he gives the Sox a good LH bat, elite defense and a guy (finally) who will take walks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalSox Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 QUOTE (dpd9189 @ Dec 31, 2015 -> 09:47 AM) I think the Gordon signing comes first (where ever he does sign). After that I expect the market to shift more to Cespedes and Upton. Â Also reading between the lines I think Gordon might be the most realistic option for the Sox. If he signs with KC or someone else, I don't like the Sox' odds of getting the other two when you have to compete with teams like Detroit, SF, LAA, STL, etc. Teams that have been known to spend the big money. Â Gordon might not be as flashy as the other two but he gives the Sox a good LH bat, elite defense and a guy (finally) who will take walks. Â I hope that if he's the first one to sign it's with the Sox because if not, this board will go crazy & so will I. lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpd9189 Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 QUOTE (SoCalSox @ Dec 31, 2015 -> 11:48 AM) I hope that if he's the first one to sign it's with the Sox because if not, this board will go crazy & so will I. lol  I agree. As I said I believe once he signs the real market develops for Cespedes and honestly I don't think the Sox can outbid some of the other teams in on him. Cespedes is more an ideal fit for the Sox but Gordon might be more attainable IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank_Thomas Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 (edited) Here's my predictions for these guys:  Davis to St. Louis Upton to Baltimore Gordon to Kansas City Cespedes to Chicago  I have a feeling one of them sign later this evening or this weekend, and we start seeing the rest sign early mid next week. Edited December 31, 2015 by Frank_Thomas35 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpd9189 Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 I think the Cardinals are a dark horse for Gordon and I think SF is a dark horse for Cespedes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 QUOTE (dpd9189 @ Dec 31, 2015 -> 11:52 AM) I think the Cardinals are a dark horse for Gordon and I think SF is a dark horse for Cespedes. Yes, SF is the team that worries me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 QUOTE (dpd9189 @ Dec 31, 2015 -> 11:52 AM) I think the Cardinals are a dark horse for Gordon and I think SF is a dark horse for Cespedes. Â Â QUOTE (GreenSox @ Dec 31, 2015 -> 11:55 AM) Yes, SF is the team that worries me. Â Agreed on both fronts. Still think Sox get Cespedes though and one of those teams will make a trade for a Colorado OFer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Lopez's Ghost Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 QUOTE (SoCalSox @ Dec 31, 2015 -> 11:48 AM) I hope that if he's the first one to sign it's with the Sox because if not, this board will go crazy & so will I. lol B.S. The Board will go crazy no matter what. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpd9189 Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 QUOTE (GreenSox @ Dec 31, 2015 -> 11:55 AM) Yes, SF is the team that worries me. Â Indeed. They have money and have had a good chunk of money come off the books too. Plus Cespedes is familiar with the Bay Area from his time in Oakland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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