bmags Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 Here are the rules: You get to draft two historical players and a specific year of their career in order to guarantee the current white sox roster gets into the playoffs. Example: 98 Pedro Martinez - SP 96 Griffey Jr - CF Open Considerations: - Despite the fact that you are choosing the best year of a player, translation to current era can be factored in, despite the fact that it may severely undercut this exercise! - Team fit should be considered. Are you going to get 2 awesome position players? 1 pitcher/1 hitter to plug in CF? Are you going to take the world's best 2b regardless, who cares if Lawrie's on the bench? For my draft, I'm thinking going SP/CF, as above, but maybe even: 96 Griffey in CF 85 Dwight Gooden - SP Gooden had 16 complete games in 85, which is the sort of relief which will be a huge help when you have pitchers like Quintana and Rodon who may struggle going late. Also - I never saw him pitch, so want to see 1 player. Griffey in 96 was what I still think of for baseball. Move eaton to RF and deal with Melky in LF. Lineup: Eaton Cabrera Abreu Griffey Frazier Lawrie C Saladino Rotation: Sale Gooden Quintana Rodon Danks/Johnson Alternative mind games: 2 historical White Sox players to put us in the tops. For that I'll go offense alone. I think Billy Pierce would be a fine choice but pre 60s players scare me. 2003 Loaiza seemed soft to me. 94 Thomas - DH 98 Albert Belle- RF Just mash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (bmags @ Feb 9, 2016 -> 09:56 AM) Here are the rules: You get to draft two historical players and a specific year of their career in order to guarantee the current white sox roster gets into the playoffs. Example: 98 Pedro Martinez - SP 96 Griffey Jr - CF Open Considerations: - Despite the fact that you are choosing the best year of a player, translation to current era can be factored in, despite the fact that it may severely undercut this exercise! - Team fit should be considered. Are you going to get 2 awesome position players? 1 pitcher/1 hitter to plug in CF? Are you going to take the world's best 2b regardless, who cares if Lawrie's on the bench? For my draft, I'm thinking going SP/CF, as above, but maybe even: 96 Griffey in CF 85 Dwight Gooden - SP Gooden had 16 complete games in 85, which is the sort of relief which will be a huge help when you have pitchers like Quintana and Rodon who may struggle going late. Also - I never saw him pitch, so want to see 1 player. Griffey in 96 was what I still think of for baseball. Move eaton to RF and deal with Melky in LF. Lineup: Eaton Cabrera Abreu Griffey Frazier Lawrie C Saladino Rotation: Sale Gooden Quintana Rodon Danks/Johnson Alternative mind games: 2 historical White Sox players to put us in the tops. For that I'll go offense alone. I think Billy Pierce would be a fine choice but pre 60s players scare me. 2003 Loaiza seemed soft to me. 94 Thomas - DH 98 Albert Belle- RF Just mash. 99 Pedro and 2015 Bryce Harper Edited February 9, 2016 by Y2JImmy0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 If I want to make this a playoff team? Steroid era Barry Bonds and Sammy Sosa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmarComing25 Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 '99 and '00 Pedro were both more dominant than '98 Pedro. But I think I'd go '01 Randy Johnson and '01 Bonds. I like that Johnson would give us 250 innings, and it'd be really fun having him and Sale as your 1-2 punch. Bonds is obvious, even if he doesn't play RF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shysocks Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 So are we assuming you're just putting them in a time machine and making them play the 2016 season? ie Honus Wagner is great an all, but he might not make it against today's pitching. Or do we just get to copy + paste their stats from that season into our lineup? Think you have to go with an outfielder and a starting pitcher. Might be fun to have an all-time fantastic shortstop instead of the pitcher, but the peace of mind from - barring injury - not having to rely on both EJ and Danks pays off more, I think. 2002 Vlad Guerrero: .336/.417/.593, 39 HR, 40 SB. Last year of Vlad's career before he lost a step and became a defensive liability. 2001 Randy Johnson: I'm taking a lefty because damn if the possibility of having 4 dominant lefties isn't awesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchetman Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 Babe Ruth 1920 Ted Williams 1941 I'd rather not root for Barry Bonds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 Bryce Harper and Mike Trout. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 I feel like this might be more interesting if limited to White Sox players historically. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted February 9, 2016 Author Share Posted February 9, 2016 I provided both. Not my fault, "Q" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shysocks Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 Then gimme 2001 Magglio and 2003 Loaiza. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 QUOTE (bmags @ Feb 9, 2016 -> 10:33 AM) I provided both. Not my fault, "Q" I'll admit, I missed it. Only cause people keep posting the obvious answers. If I did Sox players '94 Frank Thomas and either '05 Contreras (post All-Star break), 2012 Jake Peavy, 1983 LaMarr Hoyt or '93 Jack McDowell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 If White Sox only, Frank would probably be the most obvious answer, but I think 94 Belle and 02 Ordonez would help this team the most. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabiness42 Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 This is my twist on this- I'm creating a lineup of Sox players from a specific season, dating as far back as I can remember being a Sox fan (1980). No player used more than once, and the player must have played at least 81 games at the listed position during the listed season. Lance Johnson 1993 CF Robin Ventura 1992 3B Frank Thomas 1994 1B Albert Belle 1998 LF Magglio Ordonez 1999 RF Alexei Ramirez 2010 SS Harold Baines 1987 DH Carlton Fisk 1983 C Ray Durham 1998 2B Esteban Loaiza 2003 SP Chris Sale 2013 SP John Danks 2008 SP Alex Fernandez 1996 SP Mark Buehrle 2007 SP Bobby Thigpen 1990 CL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
103 mph screwball Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 For my Sox only choices I would choose 94' Frank Thomas and 02' Magglio Ordonez. I really would love to see 04' Ichiro in right field for fun factor, but if I had to add 2 players from any team and any era, I would go with 68' Bob Gibson and 41' Ted Williams. Not only are they dominant, but they would give the team some aggressiveness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 QUOTE (shysocks @ Feb 9, 2016 -> 10:12 AM) So are we assuming you're just putting them in a time machine and making them play the 2016 season? ie Honus Wagner is great an all, but he might not make it against today's pitching. Or do we just get to copy + paste their stats from that season into our lineup? Think you have to go with an outfielder and a starting pitcher. Might be fun to have an all-time fantastic shortstop instead of the pitcher, but the peace of mind from - barring injury - not having to rely on both EJ and Danks pays off more, I think. 2002 Vlad Guerrero: .336/.417/.593, 39 HR, 40 SB. Last year of Vlad's career before he lost a step and became a defensive liability. 2001 Randy Johnson: I'm taking a lefty because damn if the possibility of having 4 dominant lefties isn't awesome. Young Vlad would be unreal on this team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted February 9, 2016 Author Share Posted February 9, 2016 I really wanted to put 72 Dick Allen but hard to choose him over Frank Thomas. We have Apiricio and Minoso to take the hole in SS, but hard to take either over the 90s-early 00s mashers. Surprised for the lack of 2003 loaiza love, especially 2012 Jake Peavy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted February 9, 2016 Author Share Posted February 9, 2016 Also an interesting question to me is if you took two all world pitching years and made a rotation of 2 historical players, would you say that's automatically a playoff team? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted February 9, 2016 Author Share Posted February 9, 2016 02 Bonds I recognize as obviously the best offensive season ever, but still would pay ANYTHING to be able to watch 162 games of Ken Griffey Jr in his prime where black, white and grey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted February 9, 2016 Author Share Posted February 9, 2016 2016 MAT LATOS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox1917 Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 So for any player from any team, that would be pretty easy for me: 1923 Babe Ruth 1972 Steve Carlton Best player of all time that fills a need in RF (who cares how bad his defense is with that bat), and one of the best pitchers of the last 50 years in the most dominating season of the last 50 years IMO. For any historical White Sox I'd go with: 1971/1972 Wilbur Wood 1920 Shoeless Joe Jackson Wilbur allows that White Sox to legitimately go back to a 4 man rotation - Sale, Q, Rodon, Wood, with spot starts here and there from Johnson, Latos, Danks. Jackson fills the biggest need for the lineup and gives the team a high on base doubles hitter to plug into the 2 through 6 slots in the lineup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox1917 Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 QUOTE (raBBit @ Feb 9, 2016 -> 01:31 PM) Why does everyone like '98 Pedro? '99 Pedro might be the best season ever. I'll take '99 Pedro and '02 Bonds. EDIT: Honorable mention '68 Bob Gibson. 2000 Pedro was the best Pedro. .737 WHIP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFinn Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 Johnny Bench from the 1972 Reds: 8.6 WAR Mickey Mantle from the 1956 or 1957 Yankees: 9.3/9.4 WAR respectively I'll take my chances with the pitching we have if we had those two on the team up the middle. If I have to dump one of the position players for a pitcher, the 1968 Bob Gibson was was-inspiring. I saw him pitch in person (my uncle took me to Wrigley—he was a die-hard Cub fan, what can I say!), and I don't know how the Cubs were able to score a run off him. He was intimidating. If I'm looking for past members of the White Sox, put 1972 Dick Allen (8.6 WAR) at first base and Jose Abreu at DH. For the outfield, how about 1966 Tommie Agee: 6.6 WAR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bschmaranz Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 Joe Borchard and Jason Stumm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 I'll take '01 Randy Johnson and '04 Barry Bonds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glangon Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 I'll take 1937 Joe Di Maggio with his 8.2 WAR, .346 BA and 46 Homers, I'd have him play Right Field. I would also take a souped up 1998 Mark McGwire with his .299 BA, 70 homers, and 7.5 WAR. I'd play him DH and get Lance Armstrong's dealer to supply the masking agent. My Lineup would read Eaton CF Cabrera LF Abreu 1B McGwire DH Di Maggio RF Frazier 3B Lawrie 2B Navarro C Saladino SS If it was White Sox alone, I'd have '94 Frank Thomas and '54 Minnie Minoso. Big Frank at 1B with Abreu to DH and Minoso in LF and move Melky to RF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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