Y2Jimmy0 Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Mar 16, 2017 -> 02:05 PM) Knowing Alford semi-personally, he was a very trusting guy. Still to this day I fully believe that the kid fed him a line of BS, and he bought it, and stuck up for him. He would have also done it for the last guy on the roster. I personally saw him do it for other kids. He really buys into the father figure thing. http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2013/04/03/ber...-lying-at-ucla/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigruss Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 QUOTE (illinilaw08 @ Mar 16, 2017 -> 02:04 PM) This. I'm definitely Team Alford to Indiana. I'd be surprised if the resident Indiana fans on this board agreed. He'd recruit well, especially in the midwest/indiana area and that would hurt Illinois, but for the most part he still hasn't gotten the results to match the recruiting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Mar 16, 2017 -> 02:18 PM) http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2013/04/03/ber...-lying-at-ucla/ So Alford can't be believed but the lawyer for the victim is a neutral source? And, unfortunately, many innocent people agree to plea deals. Alford was lied to. He believed his player. You can't fault him for that. The only thing that killed Alford in Iowa wasn't that the kid did this, he basically did it again. If he didn't have the second problem, he still may be coaching the Hawkeyes. Dan Bernstein, the guy who talks about female sport's reporters chest sizes as the moral police is a bit rich. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 QUOTE (bigruss22 @ Mar 16, 2017 -> 02:32 PM) He'd recruit well, especially in the midwest/indiana area and that would hurt Illinois, but for the most part he still hasn't gotten the results to match the recruiting. I think he would recruit Indiana well, maybe better than anyone has ever done. The rest of the Midwest I am not buying. Is basically having your pick of Indiana's best enough to get them to where they want to be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted March 16, 2017 Author Share Posted March 16, 2017 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Mar 16, 2017 -> 02:34 PM) I think he would recruit Indiana well, maybe better than anyone has ever done. The rest of the Midwest I am not buying. Is basically having your pick of Indiana's best enough to get them to where they want to be? If you included LaLumiere in that list, it makes a pretty big difference. I think he can get some more work done in the area too if he wins something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigruss Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Mar 16, 2017 -> 02:54 PM) If you included LaLumiere in that list, it makes a pretty big difference. I think he can get some more work done in the area too if he wins something. There's been some small rumors that the HC at LaLu, Shane Heirman, would be interested in an assistant job at Illinois. That may not be a possibility with the new hire but would he really seems like a good coach/recruiter and would be a solid hire. Plus, Bowen is still not committed, he could follow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted March 16, 2017 Author Share Posted March 16, 2017 QUOTE (bigruss22 @ Mar 16, 2017 -> 03:41 PM) There's been some small rumors that the HC at LaLu, Shane Heirman, would be interested in an assistant job at Illinois. That may not be a possibility with the new hire but would he really seems like a good coach/recruiter and would be a solid hire. Plus, Bowen is still not committed, he could follow. I am a big fan of that guy. It wouldn't shock me at all to see him as a college coach very soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 QUOTE (bigruss22 @ Mar 16, 2017 -> 02:32 PM) He'd recruit well, especially in the midwest/indiana area and that would hurt Illinois, but for the most part he still hasn't gotten the results to match the recruiting. I think we'd all be in favor of IU hiring a complete scumbag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Mar 16, 2017 -> 10:39 AM) Almost every name that has been "connected" with Illinois so far I'd rather have than Alford. Obviously who knows how much truth there are to these rumors but that's my opinion on that. So you are saying every coach tied to Illinois is a better coach then Alford? I can rip on Alford, but he has UCLA in a really strong place. He's a much better candidate (at this point) then anyone UCLA is looking at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigruss Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 Scott Drew keeps popping up as someone who would be interested in the Illinois job, I'm torn on him. He is a fantastic recruiter, decent coach, and turned that Baylor program into something. As far as coaches go, he would be a great fit for those attributes. But, his somewhat gray past/reputation (whether fair or not) still stands out, and would go against what Whitman would look for in a coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illinilaw08 Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 QUOTE (bigruss22 @ Mar 17, 2017 -> 12:42 PM) Scott Drew keeps popping up as someone who would be interested in the Illinois job, I'm torn on him. He is a fantastic recruiter, decent coach, and turned that Baylor program into something. As far as coaches go, he would be a great fit for those attributes. But, his somewhat gray past/reputation (whether fair or not) still stands out, and would go against what Whitman would look for in a coach. Scott Drew has a high floor in terms of on-court results. He hasn't gotten Baylor over the hump, but I'd love to get back to the days of 2-4 seeds and frustration over not getting past the Sweet 16/Elite 8. Scott Drew seems very gettable for Illinois, and, unless Indiana swoops in (unlikely), he'll be there if Illinois misses out on the Marshall/Bennett/Archie Miller tier. Strike out on those guys, and I think Scott Drew should be the next coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 Wasn't Drew voted dirtiest coach by his peers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Mar 17, 2017 -> 12:39 PM) So you are saying every coach tied to Illinois is a better coach then Alford? I can rip on Alford, but he has UCLA in a really strong place. He's a much better candidate (at this point) then anyone UCLA is looking at. I'd rather have Bennett, Marshall or Archie Miller than Alford...yes. Those were the 3 I was talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigruss Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 QUOTE (fathom @ Mar 17, 2017 -> 02:01 PM) Wasn't Drew voted dirtiest coach by his peers? Calipari then him I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 QUOTE (bigruss22 @ Mar 17, 2017 -> 01:42 PM) Scott Drew keeps popping up as someone who would be interested in the Illinois job, I'm torn on him. He is a fantastic recruiter, decent coach, and turned that Baylor program into something. As far as coaches go, he would be a great fit for those attributes. But, his somewhat gray past/reputation (whether fair or not) still stands out, and would go against what Whitman would look for in a coach. Given that I just made the following post in another thread, I say hard pass on Scott Drew. QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Mar 17, 2017 -> 12:46 PM) It's only halftime, but I'm already regretting betting on a Scott Drew coached time in my survivor pool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 (edited) Apparently Piper just came out with a premium article that is a "pipe bomb" for the Illinois Head Coach search. Anybody have a summary of it? EDIT: Rumors swirling that Archie Miller to Illinois could be a real thing..... Edited March 18, 2017 by SoxPride18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Mar 17, 2017 -> 09:35 PM) Apparently Piper just came out with a premium article that is a "pipe bomb" for the Illinois Head Coach search. Anybody have a summary of it? Archie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 Fudge. Our guys were always thinking he would go for top five job or OSU. Big get if true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boogua Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 Looks like it's Brad underwood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 QUOTE (Boogua @ Mar 18, 2017 -> 02:39 PM) Looks like it's Brad underwood. Initial reaction by national writers is positive, calling it a steal. That's good. I didn't even know who he was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 Very good coach, it's definitely an upgrade but not sure he can recruit Chicago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boogua Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Mar 18, 2017 -> 03:21 PM) Initial reaction by national writers is positive, calling it a steal. That's good. I didn't even know who he was. If you look at his coaching record it pretty much speaks for itself. Took a team that averaged 65 ppg over the past two years to 85 ppg and #1 in Ken pom offense. Also read that he Knows Walker and will try to keep him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 I was going to say that he's probably not the splash you guys wanted but he's a damn good coach so congrats. Also...thanks for the inside info Soxfest! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 Awesome hire. Didn't think there was any chance Illinois could land him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 Means Illinois will never beat Iowa State but a good hire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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