3E8 Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ Jul 28, 2011 -> 01:07 PM) Hypothetically, the Sox could have moved Jackson/Thornton/+ for Rasmus, then turned around and dealt Quentin for Dominic Brown? Umm, Brown/Rasmus/Viciedo in the outfield for a decade............. We couldn't have moved that for Rasmus. Unless the "+" is significant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 (edited) QUOTE (WHarris1 @ Jul 28, 2011 -> 01:14 PM) Viciedo's injury should absolutely NOT hold us back from trading CQ I agree play Brent in RF for a few days until DV is ready to go. Edited July 28, 2011 by Soxfest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisoxfan09 Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 I luvs me the Trade deadline, great time to put on your arm chair GM hat and speculate speculate speculate!!!! :lolhitting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 probably already been posted, it's not a brand new tweet... just been skimming the beatwriters/bloggers twitter accounts  http://twitter.com/#!/BNightengale/sta...386194459459584  "The trouble with trading Quentin is that it would signify they're giving up"  He thinks that if we trade CQ, it's a give up/rebuild trade.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sockin Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 @Dejan_Kovacevic Dejan Kovacevic #Pirates have inquired on #WhiteSox OF Carlos Quentin. Asking price astronomical. Sounds unlikely, to say the least. #tradedeadline Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WCSox Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 QUOTE (Real @ Jul 28, 2011 -> 11:40 AM) probably already been posted, it's not a brand new tweet... just been skimming the beatwriters/bloggers twitter accounts http://twitter.com/#!/BNightengale/sta...386194459459584  "The trouble with trading Quentin is that it would signify they're giving up"  He thinks that if we trade CQ, it's a give up/rebuild trade..  Well, it would be. Dude's an All-Star and is currently sporting an .863 OPS. Sox are also only 3.5 games out in a very weak division. Given that this team is more talented than the '97 squad and is facing lesser divisional talent, dealing CQ may be interpreted as White Flag II.  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatScott82 Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 QUOTE (Real @ Jul 28, 2011 -> 01:40 PM) probably already been posted, it's not a brand new tweet... just been skimming the beatwriters/bloggers twitter accounts http://twitter.com/#!/BNightengale/sta...386194459459584  "The trouble with trading Quentin is that it would signify they're giving up"  He thinks that if we trade CQ, it's a give up/rebuild trade.. I'm sure most people would think that. Especially since he is our hottest hitter. However, the AL Central is very winable regardless if we have TCQ or not. If "Tank" is ready for full time at the big league level and we get MLB ready pitching in return from ATL- then you never know! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 I wrote up one great post on my thoughts against trading CQ and my computer froze up. All I can say is I hope we don't trade Quentin. Our weaknesses are no run production at 3B (but good defense), no produection in CF along with sluffing off (De Aza there right now though - one game judgement) and a dark hole at DH (but with some life showing in the last few games). Viciedo called up and replaces Pierre in LF or plays at 3B might be an option. The team traded for a releif pitcher and have up a starter and a sub for 3B and the OF. I felt beter getting Frasor when I heard he had a club option to stay next season. We know Jackson didn't and was most likely gone. I again have to emphasize my thoughts that you keep your better players and build around them. Don't drain your farm system in trades and start filling in with our own talent. We apparently must whittle down the payroll according to some cause we are darn near broke but the main bucks are goingn to RIOS, Peavy, Konerko and Dunn. Am I correct? Make sense to move the most expensive non-performer to a team with a GM with as big an ego as our guy. All we might hope for is a salary dump I don't know. Rios is the enigma here. A poor 2009 folowed by a great 2010 and now he is in the tank again. But, I think it is utterly crazy to ssay we have to keep this guy because he makes a lot on money. I kind of believe performance is the reason to keep or trade the guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 QUOTE (GreatScott82 @ Jul 28, 2011 -> 07:45 PM) I'm sure most people would think that. Especially since he is our hottest hitter. However, the AL Central is very winable regardless if we have TCQ or not. If "Tank" is ready for full time at the big league level and we get MLB ready pitching in return from ATL- then you never know! Â Â Yeah but the Tank may not be our salvation either. Not that I wouldn't like to see him at 3B or LF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 QUOTE (GreatScott82 @ Jul 28, 2011 -> 02:45 PM) I'm sure most people would think that. Especially since he is our hottest hitter. However, the AL Central is very winable regardless if we have TCQ or not. If "Tank" is ready for full time at the big league level and we get MLB ready pitching in return from ATL- then you never know! We really don't need to get MLB ready pitching back from ATL. We've got a 7 man bullpen that just got an upgrade and 5 guys who are starting, 4 of whom are performing well, 3 of whom will give you 7 innings almost every time out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHarris1 Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 QUOTE (Sockin @ Jul 28, 2011 -> 01:45 PM) @Dejan_Kovacevic Dejan Kovacevic #Pirates have inquired on #WhiteSox OF Carlos Quentin. Asking price astronomical. Sounds unlikely, to say the least. #tradedeadline Good, that's how it should be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 QUOTE (WHarris1 @ Jul 28, 2011 -> 02:49 PM) Good, that's how it should be. He's not going to the Pirates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WCSox Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 What we need is another bat. Right now, Quentin comprises one half of the productive hitters in our lineup. Trading him for anything other than an above-average veteran bat would be a step backward. Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sockin Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 Peter Gammons just tweeted "Q" and thats it.... Â https://twitter.com/pgammo/status/96652551973376000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHarris1 Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 28, 2011 -> 01:49 PM) He's not going to the Pirates. Obviously. I was talking about an astronomical asking price, as exhibited by the bolding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 QUOTE (Sockin @ Jul 28, 2011 -> 01:51 PM) Peter Gammons just tweeted "Q" and thats it.... https://twitter.com/pgammo/status/96652551973376000  wtf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 QUOTE (Sockin @ Jul 28, 2011 -> 02:51 PM) Peter Gammons just tweeted "Q" and thats it.... https://twitter.com/pgammo/status/96652551973376000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisoxfan09 Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 (edited) I wrote up one great post on my thoughts against trading CQ and my computer froze up. All I can say is I hope we don't trade Quentin. Our weaknesses are no run production at 3B (but good defense), no produection in CF along with sluffing off (De Aza there right now though - one game judgement) and a dark hole at DH (but with some life showing in the last few games). Viciedo called up and replaces Pierre in LF or plays at 3B might be an option. The team traded for a releif pitcher and have up a starter and a sub for 3B and the OF. I felt beter getting Frasor when I heard he had a club option to stay next season. We know Jackson didn't and was most likely gone. I again have to emphasize my thoughts that you keep your better players and build around them. Don't drain your farm system in trades and start filling in with our own talent. We apparently must whittle down the payroll according to some cause we are darn near broke but the main bucks are goingn to RIOS, Peavy, Konerko and Dunn. Am I correct? Make sense to move the most expensive non-performer to a team with a GM with as big an ego as our guy. All we might hope for is a salary dump I don't know. Rios is the enigma here. A poor 2009 folowed by a great 2010 and now he is in the tank again. But, I think it is utterly crazy to ssay we have to keep this guy because he makes a lot on money. I kind of believe performance is the reason to keep or trade the guy. Â I threw out a scenario where you try to work on the ego of some GM by reducing your asking price on CQ and throwing in some salary relief for Rios (Maybe up to 30-40%). It rids you of a sizeable bad contract to some degree and you still get something in return for CQ. Dunno just a hypothetical idea. Edited July 28, 2011 by SpainSOXfan09 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigruss Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 QUOTE (Sockin @ Jul 28, 2011 -> 01:45 PM) @Dejan_Kovacevic Dejan Kovacevic #Pirates have inquired on #WhiteSox OF Carlos Quentin. Asking price astronomical. Sounds unlikely, to say the least. #tradedeadline Im sure the Pirates think giving up anything in their long term plans is astronomical, as it should be. They can't afford to trade in their future for one decent season. They need to build a long term winner, and they are on that path. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoSox05 Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 Peter Gammons is f***ing with us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cali Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 I would actually consider NOT trading CQ as "White Flag II" Â Staying content when it hasn't worked all season long and just hoping for the best in a very winnable (garbage) division is a White Flag to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 QUOTE (Real @ Jul 28, 2011 -> 01:40 PM) probably already been posted, it's not a brand new tweet... just been skimming the beatwriters/bloggers twitter accounts http://twitter.com/#!/BNightengale/sta...386194459459584  "The trouble with trading Quentin is that it would signify they're giving up"  He thinks that if we trade CQ, it's a give up/rebuild trade..  I would guess the package would start with Alvarez judging by what was talked about already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 QUOTE (WCSox @ Jul 28, 2011 -> 01:50 PM) What we need is another bat. Right now, Quentin comprises one half of the productive hitters in our lineup. Trading him for anything other than an above-average veteran bat would be a step backward. Nah, it would be a step forward for the franchise to acquire top 5 prospects and also put your best in your major league lineup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatScott82 Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 28, 2011 -> 01:49 PM) We really don't need to get MLB ready pitching back from ATL. We've got a 7 man bullpen that just got an upgrade and 5 guys who are starting, 4 of whom are performing well, 3 of whom will give you 7 innings almost every time out. Very true. But with the uncertainty of Peavy's health, it is always good to have a little bit of insurance and even more depth. I wonder if KW demands a return package including Brandon Beachy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 He's not going to be dealt today. But its nice that we are asking a ton and are waiting for the market to come to us. Thats being an actual GM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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