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Yeah and 4 of those guys are on 40-man, plus Bush an option when he’s comes off IL
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About time the started adding some NRI deals. I'd guess Newcomb is a SP, so there's Borucki, Hudson, Gilbert, Eisert, & Murphy in competition for 2/3 spots for lefty relievers.
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January 18, 1952 - Chuck Comiskey III, namesake and grandson of White Sox founder Charles Comiskey, resigned from the club after his mother, White Sox owner (and Charles’ daughter-in-law) Grace Comiskey, denied his request for a raise. Thus began an almost decade-long family drama, played out mostly in public. Some bullet-point highlights: Chuck returned to the club relatively soon after resigning, eventually in 1956 becoming co-general manager of the White Sox with John Rigney. Rigney was married to Chuck’s sister, Dorothy Comiskey, and if co-general managing a Major League team doesn’t sound difficult enough, imagine how hard it is when ... Chuck’s mother Grace passed away in December 1956 and left controlling interest in the White Sox (which Chuck long considered his birthright) to his sister (54%), leaving him with 46%. Beginning in 1957, Chuck took his sister to court, presumably to at least have his mother’s shares evenly shared between he and Dorothy — court proceedings that played out in nasty fashion and led to Chuck being derided as the entitled “Crown Prince” of the White Sox. Despite all of the rancor, Dorothy still preferred to sell her shares to Chuck — but Chuck (believing Dorothy would never sell outside of the Comiskey family) gave Dorothy a lowball offer for her shares. Enter Bill Veeck (who Chuck had a friendly rivalry with, as Veeck’s Cleveland club and the White Sox were fierce competitors in the 1950s), who submitted a bid for the team that Dorothy reluctantly considered. Chuck’s later offer for the White Sox, backed by a group including eventual A’s owner Charlie Finley, was higher than Veeck’s — but Veeck had spent 100 dollars for a 60-day window to raise additional funds to match the offer With Veeck taking over the team in early 1959, Chuck retained his 46% ownership in the club (still the biggest individual stockholder) but lost his G.M. job When a downturn in Veeck’s health forced him to sell the White Sox in 1961, Chuck sold his shares to an investment group including William Bartholomay and entertainer Danny Thomas, with an eye toward being reinstalled as the de facto owner of the White Sox upon the sale, but Veeck — not particularly fond of the Crown Prince or seduced by the Comiskey name — sold instead to Art Allyn, putting the Comiskey’s out of White Sox business for the first time in 62 years
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Yeah, I was going to say they probably way overbid themselves on that one because they just don’t care about money but didn’t bother until someone else said it haha
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Key word. And we’re not just asking for a team just to pay salary, but to also dispatch some quality young talent in return. Get teams like Reds, Pirates, Mariners interested, or we’ll be down to a choice of whether to take or leave Mets’ utility players.
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I've argued all along that right now, he's a 2 WAR/162 games CF. That's worth, what, $15M? I don't think Michael A. Taylor ever made over $5M, and he had a nice, short run of 3+ WAR seasons. Robert has that elite ceiling, I know. Crochet moved quickly, as the league saw his potential as a pitcher and health-wise. The league seems to be telling us they're not going to bite for prospects and taking on Robert's full contract. Or maybe they were just waiting for Taylor and Bellinger to come off the board so they could reassess.
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Robert Thread: Sox talking to Reds, Mets
CaliSoxFanViaSWside replied to Snopek's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Even with Boras this seems fair with some kind of mutual option. If other teams are expecting the Sox to pay half then the problem is they dont think the odds of him reaching his upside hitting and health is worth even 1 decent prospects or even 2 mediocre ones. $10M for maybe 100 games of above average fielding and baserunning with low OBP and inconsistent power and incentives basedd on games played and offensive performance might be worth another $3-7M that you doubt you'll end up paying but not multiple prospects. Teams would rather gamble with incentive money if he performs than pay with prospects up front and end up with Anderson/Moncada/Jimenez downside clone performance. -
Robert Thread: Sox talking to Reds, Mets
Chicago White Sox replied to Snopek's topic in Pale Hose Talk
If his market value right now is 1/$10M, then there is zero chance of trading him for anything of value. I just can’t accept in one of the worst CF markets I have ever seen, a guy like Robert would have the same market value as Aroldis García and would only get $5M more than Lane Thomas. -
If they plan on making Newcomb a starter, they still need a lefty reliever. Might as well give this guy an audition in spring training.
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Mundelein
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Local guy too I think
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It's the most wonderful time of the year!! Bullpen arm minor league deal season!!
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Last year was a different market. I think Robert's kind of worth around $10M right now. He's been too injured and average-y for the league's taste. If he goes out in 2026 and puts up the 3.5 fWAR year he's capable of, the teams might line up for 2027. (If he put that up all season on the WSox, then they pick up his option.)
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Robert Thread: Sox talking to Reds, Mets
Chicago White Sox replied to Snopek's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Everyone’s favorite corner OF Michael Conforto got $17M from the Dodgers a year ago despite coming off a 1.3 fWAR season and lacking the upside of Luis. -
When you beat odds of say 1,000-1 to get to be an elite athlete, or elite doctor or elite lawyer or elite broadcaster you should collect big.
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The Future of the White Sox TV Broadcast Team
Lip Man 1 replied to palehose1's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Especially is the Ishbia ownership says 'thanks...but you are no longer needed..." -
The Future of the White Sox TV Broadcast Team
chetkincaid replied to palehose1's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Stone is a Jerry Reinsdorf fan. I’d be interested in seeing how much of a White Sox fan he’ll continue being once JR is gone. -
Well his fWar the last 2 seasons was .6 and 1.3. Get his salary down to the value of his actual production and more teams will be interested, such as Reds
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White Sox sign Jarred Kelenic, non-roster invite
Dick Allen replied to Sleepy Harold's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Doing everything he can to help the White Sox win is nice. And he will do that by playing in Charlotte. -
Honestly the Dodgers should sign me for like $2 million. Just look under the couch cushions.
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Houston’s D is nasty as hell and really fun to watch. I think they’re gonna give the Patriots all they can handle. If the Texans can get any sort of offense going I think they have a pretty good shot here.
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Matt Abbatacola thought he was gone. Maybe they made the calculation that a third of teams were looking for head coaches this cycle and LaFleur is a good head coach. And this is another reason why I wish Buffalo won. The Broncos have less of a chance to win next week and Buffalo would be a better Super Bowl matchup than the Nix-less Broncos or any remaining AFC team.
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Is “The 78” Dead? Or even more alive? Fire announce plans for SSS
Ducksnort replied to soxfan18's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Indiana tax payers 🤣 -
I liked our odds much better against a 49er team in Chicago, not a Seahawk team in Seattle. If we win tonight, I'm going to have a hard time getting my hopes up for next Sunday.
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That Nix injury unfortunately makes a Patriots Super Bowl appearance almost guaranteed. I’m strangely optimistic about the Bears today, but seeing what Seattle did, I fear that’s where any luck will end.
