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The downside risk is that you make two things worse with this move and you lose Taylor to injury. He's literally never been an effective starter before.

I’m not sure what the downside risk here is. If he can’t handle the starter work load, move him back to the pen. If he can handle it, well, great. He’s a starter. I guess there’s an increased injury risk, but is 5 innings one day a week that much worse than 5 innings over 4 appearances? IDK

Go get one of the non-QO Closers like Iglesias too

That's honestly fair, though only if he is able to actually go 6 innings at a time. The big thing that no one is talking about is that he has literally never been able to do it since going pro. Dude made 11 total starts in 2024 and 2025 total, and knocked out a whole 46 innings in those two years. His longest outing since 2022 in college is 4 innings. Dude barely even started in college, and we are just supposed to all shut up an assume that this is a front line starter, because he was decent this year out of hte pen. Yep.

All signs point to a shortened season. He may not even be able to get that many innings if the season is shortened.

Details. Who cares amirite

what is Grants max inning count for 2027? 140 innings? If he is super effective...how do they pace him for the playoffs (this team is making the playoffs next season in this division).

Fully agree on needing to add one of King or Peralta. We need someone who can push everyone down a peg. From there, adding a second arm a tier down would be nice, even if they come with some warts. To me, Taira and May both fit in this category. If you want to win next year, go with something like this: Rotation: <King> Burke Taylor <Taira> Martin/Castillo Bullpen: CL: Hicks SU: H. Smith* SU: <Trade> MR: Hudson* MR: Brazoban MR: Kay* LR: Schultz* LR: Castillo/Martin AAA: Sandlin Thorpe McDougal S. Smith Vasil

Although 5'8 isn't ideal for a pitcher, you can still get some run out of him. Marcus Stroman was 5'7 and had a very solid career as a starter. Multiple 170+ innings pitched.

The crashouts in here are amusing

IMO you add him AND another starter like King or Peralta. Then if after seeing the league and results, if his stuff could play better as elite closer type, you resolve all your needs and get to evaluate the massive amount of what ifs (hagen, shultz, sandlin, etc). Grant is only gonna be able to provide around 140 innings at best, so 2 starters HAS to happen.

but then you can't sell the optimism over the new flashy toy!

https://chicago.suntimes.com/bears-stadium/2026/11/12/michael-reese-hospital-developers-10-billion-stadium-bears

That had nothing to do with Jerry though and everything to do with Getz. And when is the last time we made the playoffs coming off a bottom 5 payroll? There isn’t really any history here to support what we will or won’t do. The only certain is we won’t sign Skubal. Anything beyond that is in the realm of possible.

Remember who still owns the team?

If you're interested in Dustin May, you might as well just re-sign Fedde. Just my 2 cents.

May works for the roles they seem to favor: guys who straddle the line between a low innings starter/multi-innings reliever. They may see it as a market inefficiency. Maybe he’s a starter/bulk guy, maybe he’s an innings eating reliever like Vasil and Newcomb the last two years. They would throw him in a mix with Sandlin, Schultz, McDougal, and both Smiths and see how it all works out. I don’t love it, but I don’t hate it. I fear 5 years of Peralta would be another Castillo times 5. May would be a half measure, but potentially useful.

I feel the Sox dumpster diving again

Yeah I'd feel more confident if the rotation looked like this: Burke Better FA signing Martin Taylor Back-end FA signing Castillo and Kay to bullpen as depth Schultz and Sandlin (if not in the pen on the 2026 Taylor plan) in Charlotte as depth It kinda feels like they've already added the 5th starter for 2027 at the 2026 trade deadline though. Because if not, that's an expensive long-reliever. Bad fit. Bad bad overpaid fit.

Yep and the rumor is they want atleast 2 pitchers. Thought I saw a report one is on the high end 1-2 and a backend starter. So the names we're hearing now make sense.

And it’s in a higher price range than usual it seems

Yeah its easy to link them virtually to every SP available (top of rotation guys, back end guys, etc) considering that is our biggest need

So here's the thing. It's clear right now they have a wide nest cast on starting pitchers. Settle down. Maybe it's just me getting older. But I don't react and attempt to jump off the bridge like others I'm seeing on here especially to the May interest to every rumor. Christ in the past 3 days it seems like we've heard them interesting in 20 starting pitchers.

Kay and May and pray for rain! 🤣

Walks too many, but he's got some skill. But, we have somewhat of a backlog of pitchers like that.