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So if the old story about how no one every took their gains was actually true, the fact they had nine figures in debt means those gains are long gone.
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Winter Meetings Dec. Trades FA Signings Thread
Chicago White Sox replied to caulfield12's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Why do you think he’s going to turn into a pumpkin? -
FanGraphs Top 37 White Sox Prospects posted
southsider2k5 replied to WestEddy's topic in Pale Hose Talk
He's a dude that is a peak 60 to 65. But yeah, he has to stay healthy, and he has to condition himself to go 180 innings. Neither of those are a for sure thing. But him and Smith you really, really need to get a #1 starter out of, especially now that Grant Taylor is out of the picture in the rotation. -
Winter Meetings Dec. Trades FA Signings Thread
Lukakke Appling replied to caulfield12's topic in Pale Hose Talk
He’s had consistently above league average offense for 3 seasons. It’s certainly not sexy, but credit where it’s due. -
Robert Thread: Sox talking to Reds, Mets
Chicago White Sox replied to Snopek's topic in Pale Hose Talk
I have no idea where you guys come up with this stuff. Getz literally listed off like four or five needs at the Winter Meetings and said they were focused on addressing them via free agency. A $90M payroll is literally nothing. We were spending that much or more every single year since winning the World Series outside of 2018 (peak of previous rebuild). And even then, our 2018 payroll would be over $90M in current dollars. Point is there is zero reason to think we are going to be below $90M in payroll. I get we have accumulated losses in recent years per Forbes, but we also had gains during the past rebuild and brought on the Ishbia’s to a greater capacity to help address their debt. No way the payroll is going down or staying flat vs. last year after finally getting a TV deal in place and having some second half momentum, which means any minimum floor should somewhere above $80M and a realistic one would be closer to $90M. -
They shouldn't need to. But who knows with how this franchise is being run right now.
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I know he has a lot of concerns about swing and miss, but I still can't believe the White Sox signed the two time NPB MVP who hit 56 homers in a season during a deadball era to play first base and bat left handed.
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FanGraphs Top 37 White Sox Prospects posted
Look at Ray Ray Run replied to WestEddy's topic in Pale Hose Talk
FV's for guys like Schultz are funny though. His distribution more likely looks like this: If he gets healthy and stops over tinkering his likely outcome is as a 1 or high 2 (far right of the distribution), but if the knee/body doesn't hold up allowing him to maintain his mechanics then he's a zero. I just don't see much middle with Schultz. Maybe when you average those out you get a 50, but he's an example as to why using the FV grade to dictate star power doesn't always work. -
Winter Meetings Dec. Trades FA Signings Thread
WhiteSox2023 replied to caulfield12's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Agreed. So glad Getz stayed far far away. -
This. They weren’t planning on doing much, if any spending. Murakami fell into their laps and it was a good opportunity to get a potential power hitting star at their price.
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It seems likely that they still have a topline restrictive budget number that they have to stay under. If they could hypothetically trade Robert (even if they eat some money) for Petty and a lotto ticket or something, they could wash out most of the Murakami cost and add a SP who is basically for free money wise and theoretically they could still have some money left for a FA SP too.
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2025 International signings thread
Autumn Dreamin replied to southsider2k5's topic in FutureSox Board
Relatedly, Rikuu Nishida has been involved hosting camps for Japanese players who want to pursue the college > draft route. Along with Mune, can't hurt to keep raising the Sox profile there. -
Robert Thread: Sox talking to Reds, Mets
Chicago White Sox replied to Snopek's topic in Pale Hose Talk
I could see them wanting to move on from Robert if they believe he’s unable to stay healthy, but I don’t think they need to shed his salary to fit Murakami into the budget. -
Winter Meetings Dec. Trades FA Signings Thread
Look at Ray Ray Run replied to caulfield12's topic in Pale Hose Talk
O'Hearn going to turn back into a pumpkin. Good on him for getting a few bucks with a nice stretch of games -
Winter Meetings Dec. Trades FA Signings Thread
thxfrthmmrs replied to caulfield12's topic in Pale Hose Talk
This deal pretty suggests Sox have to eat half of Benintendi’s salary to get rid of him. -
Winter Meetings Dec. Trades FA Signings Thread
WestEddy replied to caulfield12's topic in Pale Hose Talk
And maybe Overstock.com sponsers the "O" on O'Hearn's jersey for $10M, or so. -
Per Passan: White Sox sign Munetaka Murakami 2 years 34M
Quin replied to GreatScott82's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Surely nothing worse than the US, step-poster? -
Winter Meetings Dec. Trades FA Signings Thread
Timmy U replied to caulfield12's topic in Pale Hose Talk
I would rather sign Mune, but that said, O’Hearn is gonna help Pittsburgh. With their young pitching, a average offense makes them a playoff threat. -
Winter Meetings Dec. Trades FA Signings Thread
Bob Sacamano replied to caulfield12's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Mangun is probably a backup right? Cruz wasn’t very good in CF and they can use someone who can play the position. Cruz probably would shift to LF (or DH I guess). Roster Resource currently has O’Hearn at DH but that is just a guess. Horwitz does have experience at 2B so could be his spot. -
Winter Meetings Dec. Trades FA Signings Thread
southsider2k5 replied to caulfield12's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Yep, Ryan O'Hearn isn't bringing in any outside revenue. - Today
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Winter Meetings Dec. Trades FA Signings Thread
WestEddy replied to caulfield12's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Now the Pirates have more cost-certainty at 1B. I wonder which of O'Hearn/Horwitz moves off of 1B to LF or 2B, respectively. -
Winter Meetings Dec. Trades FA Signings Thread
fathom replied to caulfield12's topic in Pale Hose Talk
I bet the 8 million gets covered easily by Japanese advertisement and engagement -
Yeah, I don't know if it's conditioning or whatnot, but I think Getz just wants to move on from that era, which is fine.
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Winter Meetings Dec. Trades FA Signings Thread
Bob Sacamano replied to caulfield12's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Maybe they can still be in on Robert too
