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But you want to bring back Tauchman? Speaking of deterioration…

Barely any. They have a million picks. They could offer him like $11 million and just use the overage. They have two extra picks and $20 million to spend. The 5% overage gives them an extra $1 million. They could add that to the #2 pick and theoretically pay Cholowsky $11.5 million if they wanted (this is $2.2 million more than the record bonus) and they could still pay slot at every other pick.

Put me officially down for believing that Pereira is far more likely to be a positive contributor next year than Kelenic. Beyond being a bit of a head case, it just feels like Kelenic’s physical tools have deteriorated some since his prospect glory days and he hasn’t really shown any signs of improvement with his swing & miss issues. I think people are excited because of the name and former prospect status, but I don’t really see much of a reason to believe. With Pereira, he’s made some small gains with his plate discipline in the upper minors and I feel like his combo of power and ability to walk could result in him being a productive three outcome type of hitter eventually. No guarantee there, but I do feel like his chances of being a solid 4th OF / short side platoon bat is fairly high and that’s far more optimistic than I feel about Kelenic right now.

I am starting to think that: 1. There are plenty of Sox FO members who lurk here. 2. They signed Kelenic as an act of trolling ST.

Well s%*#, this round of the playoffs went pretty much as well as it could’ve. And the only team left that has won a national title before is Miami.

That's the problem when ball players get out beyond "can just play one game at a time" and all that gibberish. Somebody had him on camera and probably asked him to comment on the signs. That's the thing he remembers about Segura. It would be weird if he knew about that struggle, and then only talked about his sunflower seed eating, or whatnot.

That almost makes it worse. He’s talking about it with a weirdass smirk on his face. And to bother to even mention how a player slumped at the plate after his infant died is even more out of touch with reality.

If he was THAT hated, it wasn't just one comment.

Having said that, I'm not going to hold a dumb comment from when someone was young over their heads forever.

Here's more of the full context. He does say "I felt horrible" but you are right, at the very minimum a super weird/cringy moment. https://www.instagram.com/reel/C0atKtqL5iV/?hl=en

Yeah, like I said it was weird

The context doesn’t really make that comment any better or less weird.

That clip is a little out of context, even though it was still a weird thing to say. He was basically saying that his kid passed away and it really affected his play. Again, weird thing to bring up but he wasn't like "Jean Segura, his kid died" end of statement.

In 2020, Horn’s slot was $386,600 and he signed for $150K. At least a partial punt. Crochet was slot. The problem was signing Kelley for $3 mill when his slot was $1,580,000. Kelley was a consensus first round talent. But it was a serious miss in a 5-round draft. In 2021 Montgomery signed for slot and they then reach for Kath $1.8 mill v. slot of $1,243,600. Some of the more recent over-slots look better. Some seem unnecessary (like over-slot for Smith).

I was using Google AI to find a nice summary of why Kelenic is a dbag do SS2K5 but all of you guys already provided much better information. 🤣

He's a fucking idiot. When he broke his foot on the cooler not a single team mate or coach even tried to defend him. And then he did a crying interview on the Mariners affiliate station here which only stirred up more scrutiny. He's a headcase on top of his problems hitting and catching a baseball.

Beat me to it. Seriously.

I don’t think Bailey Horn was really a punt either

wtf

Found it.

That video of Kelenic walking around Safeco and seeing a picture of Jean Segura, then awkwardly saying "his kid died" is something else.

Given how much Fuller helped Montgomery, I’m interested to see if he can work with magic with Kelenic as well. There’s no risk. If he still sucks, they can just get rid of him.

Jared Kelley never amounted to anything, but they heavily overslotted him in the 2nd round of that draft if I remember correctly. So it was Crochet, Kelley, and 3 “punt” picks.

The other thing about Kelenic is as bad as he is offensively, his defense sucks as well. Its worth the minor league contract, but if the Braves and Mariners couldn't do anything for him, I'm guessing the White Sox isn't a very good bet.

I would be curious to hear more on the details here. What is his deal? Bad teammate could mean a lot of things.