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Lots of rumours flying around that Eyanson AND Witherspoon are both not 100%.

@HeGetzUs get a game thread up before Ronald fucks it up again. Need a good start in Boston

I don't think Adams and Wolkow get you a decent rental starter.

Griffin is a free agent next year. Just saying....

Are you sure? In that interview I thought I heard him saying it WAS a possibility.

Four factoids today; August 4, 1985 - On the same day Rod Carew got his 3,000th hit in Anaheim, Sox pitcher Tom Seaver won his 300th career game. Seaver beat the Yankees 4-1 at Yankee Stadium. The Sox scored four times in the sixth inning to put Seaver in a position to get the milestone win. He got late inning defensive help when Harold Baines climbed the right field wall to rob Willie Randolph of an extra base hit with men on base. Seaver retired Don Baylor, on a fly to left for the final out of the game. The ball was caught by Reid Nichols as the capacity crowd at Yankee Stadium (many of whom were Mets fans) gave Seaver a standing ovation. August 4, 1992 - The White Sox set the franchise record for the most runs ever scored in the third inning of a game. Nine men crossed the plate against the Twins in Chicago. Wilson Alvarez got the win as the Sox won the slugfest 19-11. DH George Bell had five RBI’s in the game for the Sox. 13 men batted in the big third inning and nine straight reached base. August 4, 1993 - After years of getting brush back pitches thrown at Sox hitters from Nolan Ryan, Robin Ventura snapped in the third inning of a game in Texas and charged the mound. Ryan got the better of the fight but Ventura and his teammates found strength from the brawl and used it during the stretch run which would lead to a divisional title and keep the Rangers in second place by eight games. August 4, 2000 - Catcher Carlton Fisk was inducted into the Baseball Hall of Fame. Even though Fisk played more games and for more years with the White Sox, he went in wearing the colors of the Red Sox. Fisk explained to the Chicago media, that his choice in no way reflected any animosity towards White Sox fans but was based in part on his treatment by the organization and ownership over the years.

The most annoying part of this trade deadline is that this is probably half of our next offseason already. A starter, a reliever, a center fielder, and a backup catcher. I’m not seeing much spending happening next offseason, with or without a lockout.

Death, taxes, and overvalued Luis Robert.

Honestly, while not a fan of Schiff, I would rather see Steve retire.

Nah, that's not why you are a 🤡

Perez came up when Hays & Pereira got hurt

In his starts (excluding the piggybacks) since May 15 he's at a 3.65 ERA. Exclude his start getting lit up vs. the Dodgers last week and it's 2.97. Probably some park factors and luck involved, but I do think he'll pitch better than his season numbers when back in a comfortable role (and perhaps a better clubhouse environment).

I would have passed on Doyle but I wouldn’t have balked at Adams and Wolkow for a rental starter. Hopefully we won’t need one and Thorpe/Smith can fill the role. I don’t think Getz ever considered a rental player, which seems fairly obvious with all four players that were acquired being under control for future year(s).

It seems like the pulse of the community is that they would have liked another starter, and everybody seemed resigned to punt on a catcher. I just caught up on the trade strings. The prices being paid were nuts. And to a comment you've made a couple of times, that you would have liked the pieces traded for Doyle (Adams, the DSL SS) used to get a starting pitcher. I think those two would have had to be the 3rd and 4th pieces in a Carlson-headlined deal for run-of-the-mill, 2nd tier dudes.

I do agree that we were all expecting Pereira to be able to play CF when he was first acquired, but that doesn’t seem to be the case.

I think this is well said - I think if you get them, maybe you think in offseason you can do something to improve but in season outside of minor tweaks or pitch sequence changes hard to do much. With Castillo I presume maybe they see some small things that can be done in season but won’t be drastic plus fact that they tout he has been far better since he went back to his normal routine in mid May. I think I heard sub 4 era since like May 15th…which he may have been a bit lucky but he’s also a competitor and he gives innings which they needed big time.

Yea but we had Perez out there too. Could have kept Hill in lieu of him. Anyway, if Doyle can re-channel 2024, we're set.

I've posted some reasons why elsewhere. He's had personal issues (lost a child due to miscarriage) and some injuries since his breakout 2024. The injuries are hopefully behind him, and he's been showing some positive offensive signs since returning from injury this year. He's a good defender which helps prop his value up. Sox seem to like taking multiple shots on multiple players to see who sticks and who their organizational philosophy can help. I don't have a problem with that.

Yeah, nobody is ranting here. I think some of the individual reactions in the general trade string are extreme (worst trade ever, etc.), and those just make me consider them, more. I'm not criticizing anyone for their viewpoints. I don't think that single play changed the org's minds on Pereira, but if they were leaning, I don't think it helped.

He gained some velocity since TJS. Huge plus IMO.

B-/C+ I don’t understand the Pereira move. He’s shaky in the field, but he seemed to have some RH pop. Seems like the kind of guy you’d want to keep around. If they feel Doyle is going to regain his form from a few years ago, I suppose it’s worth a shot. I like the Bart pickup, but I still feel like Lee should have been called up at some point. I’d rather see Shultz move to the pen. He can’t seem to make it through a second time around the order, so pitching in relief might accelerate his game. Fedde and Kay both give a solid 5 innings and keep the game close. Bullpen move is an upgrade. Most importantly, they didn’t give away anything that should affect their future.

I’m just not seeing where Doyle is much of anything either. He’s 3 years older than Pereira and has had a lot more time to prove himself in the majors. He has almost 1,450 more major league plate appearances than Pereira and here’s his career line. Yikes… .233 .284 .385 .670

While I hate this trade from a value perspective, I'm excited to watch Luis as I've always enjoyed him and he's always come off as a real competitor. I hope he can tap into some magic and find a little juice. Also will say the idea that he's stopped throwing the change isn't true. He's just thrown it half as much, and he started throwing a 4 seamer much more. The 4 seamer was a better pitch as the change had been regressing even in cincy, so the adjustment made sense. Change ups seem to have a sustainability problem more than most pitches now. I'm not sure if it's video and pitching machines, but elite ones shelf life appear to be shorter than sliders and fastballs. I will add that all this talk of the Sox acquiring a player to change them mid-season and unlock success is crazy imo. Guys don't drastically overhaul who they are mid-season.

Most of the grades in this thread are fairly comparable. I’m not seeing any hyperbolic “glum chums” ranting. You even graded it a C. Hyperbolic would be reasoning a player that you formerly liked out of your mind over one single defensive miscue.

Because we're a rebuilding club running prospects through the queue. Hill wasn't a long-term piece. And if they found a taker, they had to move him to give Pereira a shot to see what they had. Same with Acuña, Kelenic, Peters, Murray, Notch and Nishida.