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Yeah but it seems to me some of these peeps on here are hoping the Sox trade anybody and everybody off this year's team who other teams might 'want.' If the Sox do so, we're not just talking a team that can't compete but again, a ridiculous 50-win type team. I mean is that what you want? 50 wins two years in a row or more? This is crazy IMO. At some point you can't tank every year in hopes young prospects we have and are to draft will lead us to greatness. At some point 50 wins is a total crime against MLB.

My guess is that Getz and Bannister would have a better idea of what pitchers to pursue next year, and maybe the bad rumors of a horrible clubhouse die down where some better offensive players might come aboard. Most of the guys you named aren't even controllable after this year, anyway. Pitching's not a problem, in that we got guys near in the pipeline, and could just start Nastrini, Cannon and Thorpe. (Martin?) Hitting's a bit trickier, but Pham and Grossman were available at the end of Spring Training, and guys like Brandon Belt are still unsigned, if you need bats.

I'll keep saying it. This team will not lose 100 games.

Good point, haha. I’ll retract my statement. It was the best draft in “recent history”. They may have filled three positions (QB, WR, and P) for the next decade and also added two players at their remaining positions of need to develop.

He's not calling out the fans. It the "haters" in the media. CBS wrote up a really bad article on the sweep, mocking the White Sox for the hole they're in. I don't need my "news" media mocking the subject of a news story. Report it, then move on. If some reporter wants to dish the snark, get a podcast, and flush the dignity.

This team isn't competing for anything for the next several years. That changes of course if new ownership comes into play and immediately becomes aggressive in talent acquisition.

Once the new guy has a chance to know and understand the history of this franchise and the passion the fans have he won't be calling anybody out given the incompetence, dysfunction and ineptness from ownership to the front office.

I would agree that it means we would not compete in 2025. I can’t see that being until 26 or 27 where we try to do something. I have no faith in JR investing in key FAs next year though to complement hopefully some young talent panning out. Seems to me we go with not-the-lowest payroll but then work to pare it down with trading away guys we signed and replacing them with guys making the minimum or just above-minimum.

Have a nice life, bro.

Not to be a contrarian, but if the goal is to trade anybody with an MLB pulse at the deadline for prospects who are not near ready, won't next year's team on paper be just as miserable or worse than this year's squad? I mean if they trade any pitcher who is meh or better and Eloy (and Moncada) if Eloy keeps hitting, won't next year's team draw even fewer fans and interest than this year's? Oh well as you all know I don't value anybody on our current roster except Crochet, Clevinger, Kopech, Eloy (maybe), Robert and Pham and Mendick. Getting rid of all of them will leave the Sox mired in this disgusting swamp they are in now.

Hey there's no reason for this. I pointed it out because I was surprised to find they were still pacing that poorly. I wasn't trying to be a negative nancy.

No, it's embarrassing. These are the big leagues. The Sox have six wins. You don't scream this south side stand up when the team is this bad. It's minor league, that's all. I didn't like him calling out the 'haters' after Saturday's win either. Anybody have a copy of today's final out call? I don't watch games anymore so I need to find his yelling on the highlights.

You guys thought I was joking around.

It takes time to bring an aircraft carrier about. Many hopeful signs since Eloy came back and started raking. Bennintendi and Sheets starting to hit and we are starting to get some nice starting and relief pitching. We had a lot of 1-2 run losses due in part to bad luck so hopefully the WSox will start getting some breaks.

It all depends on how he holds up against the best line-ups in baseball over the next couple of months...these would be his next five starts, theoretically. StL CLE Nationals (obviously not that great a line-up after CJ Abrams right now) NYY or Toronto Baltimore

He won’t be one of the top starters available at the trade deadline because he doesn’t have name recognition and he hasn’t done this before. I doubt other teams will even view him as highly as Giolito and Lynn of last year. But if you can get a return for Fedde like those two brought back, you have to jump on it.

Despite the win streak, you’re still a c***.

“Kevin Pillar has elected free agency. The 35-year-old outfielder had been designated for assignment by the White Sox on Friday. He passed through waivers unclaimed, but rather than accepting his outright assignment to Triple-A Charlotte, he opted to peddle his wares on the free agent market. It wouldn’t be terribly surprising to see him wind up back with the Braves on a minor league pact.“

But they still have to protect the Nastrinis and Cannons of the world that are not ready for the majors. Other than Thorpe and possibly Iriarte...nobody jumps out quite yet in the higher levels if we keep churning the big league roster. Which means a lot more Keller/Clevinger to protect the youngsters from getting overexposed. Delicate balancing act.

Great post, and agreed. Sell him high before he turns into a pumpkin. He doesn’t do much for this team the next two seasons anyways.

Brad Maynard flipped the field and was reliable for a decade for the Bears. Keeping teams in games in a battle over field position makes a difference.

No, but I am, on the other hand, quite familiar with Michael Bolton, the hair-challenged 1980's power pop ballads singer.

The closest parallel to Fedde is probably Nick Martinez. He signed a $26 million/3 year deal with the Reds, and experienced success with the Padres in a swing-man role after coming over from Korean success. Of course, Fedde originally had a lot of hype as a first round draft pick as well. You're going to be looking at a Top 75-125 prospect there, depending on the financial situation of the acquiring team and how valuable that locked in salary for 2025 would actually be for them.