South Side Hit Men

If only he was an billionaire owner, he would have all charges dropped. Three women arrested last year as part of a high-profile "human trafficking" sting in Florida were sentenced recently as part of plea agreements with Palm Beach County prosecutors. While avoiding further jail time, the women must still pay the state some hefty fees for allegedly facilitating the sexual gratification of massage customers, including New England Patriots' owner Robert Kraft.

Lynn knows how to pitch, and Dick Allen played a practical joke on Steve Stone when he arrived with the White Sox, telling him he was traded a week after being acquired, and ditching him for dinner.

The last time Lance Lynn pitched.... Gave up 15 runs to Houston in 11 innings. Better hope he improves against good teams since he and his 4.80 Playoff ERA is considered a "playoff ace."

Molina may be the starting catcher this year when all is said and done. Of all of Tony's "buddies", Lynn and Wainwright are the best options. Please no Pujols, and for non LaRussa guys, no Adam Eaton. Would rather have Nicky Delmonico.

The process was discarded when Reinsdorf big timed Hahn and hired the criminal scumbag manager.

Hell, Joe Altobelli pwned Tony's ass the last time the drunk was here. The one good thing Hawk Harrelson ever did for the White Sox and Jerry had to go screw that up as well.

Sounds like the Jon Daniels also subscribes to Baseball Prospectus.

I don't like trading a solid prospect for an old few month rental, with a 4.8 Playoff ERA. And for the record, Kenny or Hahn have little to no say at this point, just like they had little to no say in the LaRussa debacle. They collect their checks and keep their mouth shut and smile on cue.

And next year will likely be reduced by 1/4 to 1/2 the number of games. So more like a trade deadline deal in reality.

Did a drunk Tony LaRussa pull the trigger without Hahn knowing? What's next, Grandal for Pujols, sign Molina and Wainwright, coax Matt Holiday out of retirement?

Perhaps on paper, but 24 players in the clubhouse would likely want someone/anyone else. I like Jackie Bradley Jr, the fact he can back up Roberts for scheduled days off and any injuries, and also would help the pitching staff playing regularly in RF. If they also signed Schwarber, their lineup against RH and LH would be awesome. (Career OPS splits below); Versus RHP: 3B Moncada .813; LF/DH Schwarber .859; 1B Abreu .853; DH/LF Jimenez .864; C Grandal .797; SS Anderson .709; CF Robert .718; RF Bradley .752; 2B Madrigal .821. Versus LHP: SS Anderson .869; C Grandal .781; 1B Abreu .927; LF/DH Jimenez .801; CF Robert .807; 3B Moncada .702; DH/LF Schwarber .650; RF Bradley .685; 2B Madrigal .455. Bench: C Collins; INF Mendick INF/OF Garcia OF Engel Currently, the Sox baseline payroll is $65.4M for hitters & $32.4M for pitchers, or $97.8M without any free agents. If the Sox spend $15.8M more ($1.0M less the $1.2M ML minimum) for the two proposed free agents, it brings payroll to $113.6M before spending on a free agent SP and or RP. Fan Graph 2021 Projections ($ Contract / fWAR / OPS / HR): Hitters $81.2M plus Y. Grandal $18.3M 4.4 .801 25 J. Abreu $17.7M 1.9 .829 34 J. Bradley Jr. $10.0M 1.5 .717 22 T. Anderson $7.3M 2.3 .761 23 K. Schwarber $7.0M 2.1 .849 34 Y. Moncada $6.8M 3.2 .778 23 E. Jimenez $4.3M 3.8 .890 40 L. Robert $3.5M 3.6 .798 31 L Garcia $3.5M 0.1 .672 8 A. Engel $1.0M 0.3 .665 12 N. Madrigal $0.6M 2.9 .772 8 D. Mendick $0.6M 0.2 .693 2 Z. Collins $0.6M 0.5 .712 5 Pitching Payroll / fWAR $32.4M SP D. Keuchel $18.0M 2.2 SP L. Giolito $2.5M 3.3 Buyouts $2.3M (K. Herrera $1.0M; S. Cishek $0.8M; Gonzalez $0.5M) 0.0 RP A. Bummer $2.0M 1.1 SP R. Lopez $1.7M 0.5 RP E. Marshall $1.4M 0.4 RP J. Fry $0.9M 0.1 SP D. Cease $0.6M 1.4 RP J. Cordero $0.6M 0.1 RP C. Heuer $0.6M 0.5 SP M. Kopech $0.6M 1.5 RP J. Lambert $0.6M 0.0 RP M. Foster $0.6M 0.0 Source for Arbitration Estimates

These are good points. I do expect Moncada to have a better season next year, and looking at the splits, Moncada should bat second over Grandal against RH Starters. Career OPS Splits presented below: Versus RHP: (R) Anderson .709; (L) Moncada .813; (R) Abreu .853; (R) Jimenez .864; (L) Grandal .797; (R) Robert .718; DH/RF; DH/RF; & (R) Madrigal .821. Versus LHP: (R) Anderson .869; (R) Grandal .781; (R) Abreu .927; (R) Jimenez .801; (R) Robert .807; Moncada .702; DH/RF; DH/RF; Madrigal .455 (small sample size 22 ABs).

This makes no sense. His primary worth on offense is standing like a statute and drawing walks, secondary is for the times he does swing he connects enough times to hit home runs. He is third on the team in OBP, and fourth in OPS. Second makes most sense, to allow others to knock him in. If he bats 5th or 6th, his walks don't score nearly enough. Proposed lineup / Career OPS (R) Anderson .751 (L) Grandal .793 (R) Abreu .870 (R) Jimenez .848 (L) Moncada .783 (R) Robert .738 TBD RF/DH TBD RF/DH (R) Madrigal .745

I never cared when Kenny traded prospects, because most of them never panned out. Now that the team has a very good young core, I hope the FO is able to stick with the plan and selectively add to cover remaining holes via FA, versus trading away key pieces for a possible short term bump at the expense of long term success.

Not sure why the voter poll listed the MLBPA as having any role in nixxing 102 games last year. Players were willing to play a full schedule, the pathetic owners are the ones who cancelled most of the season last year, and will cancel as many games as possible this year. If it were up to Jerry, he'd have a 20 game 2021 regular season if restrictions are lifted, ten games vs. Cubs at home, ten vs. Cubs at Wrigley, followed by four months of playoffs.

A terrible loss, was an All Time White Sox great. I'm stricter than most when it comes to the HOF, but definitely more worthy than Harold Baines and most non BBWAA inductees. His OF dWAR really hurt him, but he is 8th all time in oWAR among 3rd baseman, the most underrepresented position in the BBHOF. https://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/white-sox/ct-chicago-white-sox-dick-allen-died-20201207-zyhngctlgjdq5mzhuq37wnrpmq-story.html https://deadspin.com/baseball-is-still-finding-ways-to-screw-over-dick-allen-1845825861

Jerry will throw in both Tony LaRussa games if you pay $99 for the Deluxe Model.

Can we close this thread based on the owner's statement? https://www.mlb.com/news/phillies-owner-john-middleton-on-zack-wheeler-trade-rumors “If they offered me Babe Ruth, I wouldn’t trade him,” Middleton told ESPN Sunday afternoon in a telephone interview. Middleton said he would not trade Wheeler for Ted Williams or Mike Schmidt, either. “I have authorized no one to have a conversation about trading him,” Middleton said about Wheeler. Did he mean Babe Ruth's corpse, Ted William's frozen head or these players in their prime?

Chuck Garfein is bad, but he is not Bob Nightengale (DUI Jail sentence is the same as missing a game due to the flu) or Bruce Levine (aka The Human Colonoscopy) bad.

Yep, so did Molina, Wainwright and Pujols. Hopefully we won't be seeing any of them next year in a White Sox uniform. Lance Lynn Similar Pitchers through 33 Jake Arrieta (974.9) 2019 33 PHI NL 8 8 .500 4.64 24 24 0 0 0 0 135.2 149 76 70 21 51 3 110 7 0 7 594 96 4.89 1.474 9.9 1.4 3.4 7.3 2.16 2020 34 PHI NL 4 4 .500 5.08 9 9 0 0 0 0 44.1 51 25 25 6 16 0 32 1 0 4 190 90 4.66 1.511 10.4 1.2 3.2 6.5 2.00

And it's going to end real badly. Hard pass, unless the Sox are getting $30M-$50M back, and giving up nothing, which isn't going to happen. I'll say it again, either the Sox will spend in Free Agency and be competitive over the next few years, or they will be cheap and no trade(s) will result in a legitimate shot at competing for a World Series. They don't need major contracts (Springer/Bauer etc.), they need flexibility to fill holes with quality players during the off-season, and at the July trade deadlines.

While I do agree catchers have the widest range of input/calculation among current defensive position WAR calculations, people keep posting Baseball Reference dWAR doesn't include framing on Soxtalk, but it isn't true. https://www.baseball-reference.com/about/war_explained_position.shtml Fielding Runs: Defensive Runs Saved Catcher handling of the pitching staff via things like pitch framing and pitch calling

I'm sure the liver is the priority at this juncture.

Using the tool in the article illustrates the Sox lack of on-field success since the Black Sox scandal. The White Sox' best finish is the #219th ranked team, with only the expansion Tampa, Arizona and Colorado lower. Absolutely pathetic. 19 of the other 29 teams have at least one Top 50 finish. There is a strong correlation between the top teams and success within the next several seasons. Top Prospect WAR rankings by team: AL East: Toronto (#11 1990 WS 1992 1993); Boston (#12 1972 AL 1975); New York (#33 1995 WS 1996 1998 1999 2000 AL 2001 2003); Baltimore (#46 1965 WS 1966 1970 AL 1969 1971); Tampa (#273 2008 AL 2008). AL Central: Cleveland (#4 1992 AL 1995 1997); Detroit (#27 1977 WS 1984); Minnesota (#62 1998); Kansas City (#68 1973 AL 1980); Chicago (#219 1990 ?? 1994). AL West: Texas (#1 1989); Houston (#15 1991); Kansas City Athletics (#18 1967 WS 1972 1972 1974); Seattle (#22 1995); Los Angeles (#131 2005). NL East: New York (#2 1967 WS 1969 & NL 1973); Atlanta (#16 1994 WS 1995 & NL 1996 1999); Philadelphia (#28 1964); Montreal (#56 1988 ?? 1994); Florida (#164 2000 WS 2003). NL Central: Saint Louis (#6 1941 WS 1942 1944 1946 & NL 1943); Chicago (#17 1986); Pittsburgh (#54 1967 WS 1971); Cincinnati (#82 2008); Milwaukee (#109 2006). NL West: Los Angeles (#3 1969 NL 1974 1977 1978); San Francisco (#45 1971); San Diego (#88 1986); Arizona (#230 2007); Colorado (#354 2007). https://www.thebaseballgauge.com/history.php?first=min&last=max&tab=prospects&pos=All&lgID=All&division=All&bats=All&throws=All&results=500&sort=tot_a&page=1#metric Top Five prospect WAR teams in White Sox History All Time Rank / Year / General Manager / WAR / Top Three Players (D = Draft; T = Trade; FA = Free Agent) #219 1990 Larry Himes (Fired after season) 197.6 (Frank Thomas 73.9 (1989 D); Robin Ventura 56.1 (1988 D); Wilson Alvarez 24.8 (1989 T)). #302 & #327 1995 & 1994 Ron Schueler 182.7 & 177.2 (Mike Cameron 46.7 (1991 D); Magglio Ordonez 38.7 (1991 FA); Ray Durham 33.8 (1990 D)). #414 1972 Stuart Holcomb 161.6 (Brian Downing 51.5 (1969 FA); Rich Gossage 41.2 (1970 D); Terry Forster 20.4 (1970 D)). #458 1999 Ron Schueler 156.0 (Mark Buehrle 59.2 (1998 D); Carlos Lee 28.3 (1994 FA); Jon Garland 22.4 (1998 T)).