Everything posted by greg775
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Just Sayin: 17-13 Against The Division
QUOTE (Jenksy Cat @ Jun 8, 2017 -> 04:09 PM) I said this earlier in the thread, but I'm also no rooting for all individual players to do poorly. I want Avi to be a real baseball player, Q/Gonzo/Shields to all pitch well enough to be traded, Frazier to remember how to hit, etc. etc.....But I also want them to lose as many games as possible. I know both of those may not be possible, but that's what I'm 'rooting' for. Hopefully we can unload at the deadline and have those losses pile up. I really think the people that want the Sox to lose every game would be a fascinating study for a thesis on the brain of a sports fan. I think it would be discovered that deep down you are oh, so content during a so-called rebuild because you can puff your chests out and brag to Cub fans and others who would normally mock you or console you after a loss. You don't have to have your pride out there night after night during the season, your mood dependent on whether the White Sox win or lose. Now, thanks to the "rebuild" (lol on rebuild), you can (illogically but in your minds logically) smile at the antagonistic Cub fan or friend and say, 'What? I wanted to lose tonight. I got exactly what I wanted, a loss." The Cub fan or other person mocking you or consoling you for the Sox loss might add, "Oh you wanted them to lose cause you've finally come to your senses and stopped being a Sox fan?" You then would respond: "No. I want them to lose cause we are rebuilding and I want us to get the No. 1 pick in the baseball draft preferably but top three would be OK I guess." And that fan would say, "Oh," and leave the scene with the same look we all had today after John McCain's bizarre conversation with Comey.
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6/8 at Tampa Bay Rays
QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Jun 9, 2017 -> 01:55 AM) Frazier needs to be signed to a Six extension. Anderson also delivered with that double. Sanchez gets robbed What is a Six extension? Six years? At least the ridiculous Holland trade talk has stopped. Nobody will want Holland for gosh sakes.
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6/8 at Tampa Bay Rays
QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Jun 9, 2017 -> 02:07 AM) It is becoming commonplace recently to see the offense battle back only to have a relief pitcher give up a homer 7-5 Our bullpen has sucked for so many years. But a lot of fans like our GM situation. What a joke. The bullpen has reeked for years. QUOTE (Lip Man 1 @ Jun 9, 2017 -> 04:25 AM) Maybe...we'll see. personally I don't think the Sox will get much for him. You are right Lip Man. People are dreaming if they think Frazier will bring anything but some very very low level prospects. Maybe a fringe 50th round type prospect or two. There's a reason our steam is storming toward last place and Frazier is one of the reasons. A very poor hitter. Why would a contender want him for gosh sakes?
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2017 Democratic Thread
QUOTE (illinilaw08 @ Jun 8, 2017 -> 10:15 PM) Greg, I think you are generally a very respectful poster. But I really wish you would actually educate yourself on some of the stuff you talk about. Like with Rush Limbaugh. You know that Limbaugh has made his money as an entertainer that goes after the Democrats and the Left right? He's not a respected guy on policy. He's a shock jock. He's the Jay Marriotti of Conservative talk radio. Just because Limbaugh is popular does not mean that anyone should take him or his opinions seriously. Thank u Illinilaw. Did you see my post on my Limbaugh listening habit? I don't really listen to him much. Some, yes? I think he's fairly entertaining, don't like the incessant commercials and actually won't put up with them.
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**ComeyMania! Thread**
QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jun 8, 2017 -> 07:00 PM) It also works the other way around. He was great, had a lot of guts, now a lying sack of s***. Trump of all people called him a showboat. One thing to keep in mind, Trump thought he could trick the Dems when he fired this guy by saying he wasn't fair to Hillary as the initial excuse. Excellent post. I definitely agree with first paragraph. I definitely agree with second paragraph. Like I said, he set it up on a tee for the media (in a good way; good for the media pursuiing this hard) when he fired Comey at the same time Trump was getting implicated in Russia shenanigans.
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OBAMA/TRUMPCARE MEGATHREAD
Tell us there's movement to not approve the bill. Healthcare needs to go more toward the socialistic Bernie side of things; less toward Sir Donald's side of things. Healthcare should not turn normal Americans from middle class to homeless following one unfortunate illness!
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2017 Democratic Thread
QUOTE (raBBit @ Jun 7, 2017 -> 09:53 PM) It's pretty simple - treat others how you want to be treated. Don't run around bullying and condescending like you do all day and cry when you get the same back. The parallels between you and Trump's personality types are uncanny. Have a good one. The rules should be, "Behave like Greg." Very people seem to respect the fact I have never come close to attacking anyone even though I have been insulted quite often in posts. I wish more people would back my positions. There are a lot of lurkers who are silent that agree with some of my positions, I am convinced of that. In real life, many agree with me when I present my theories.
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**ComeyMania! Thread**
QUOTE (Middle Buffalo @ Jun 8, 2017 -> 06:49 PM) John McCain checks in.... I'm sure many of you (not saying you unless you confirm it) can't see the hypocrisy in the Comey situation. Before election: Comey EVIL for what he did to Hillary; after election "that Comey seems like a great guy."
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**ComeyMania! Thread**
QUOTE (The Gooch @ Jun 8, 2017 -> 04:05 PM) It's too bad that Americans were the hiring manager for said job and there is a 4 years contract that's very difficult to break Great post. It's tough to get fired, but there's no way he lasts more than a year. Just the act of firing Comey that quickly proves how reckless he is, OK how stupid he is? Firing the FBI director when you yourself are getting questioned about a lot of s*** and think the media isn't going to attack that is pretty dumb. Media in effect saying, "Thank you Mr. Trump for giving us something to work on until you get impeached. You are too easy Mr. Trump."
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**ComeyMania! Thread**
QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jun 8, 2017 -> 04:51 PM) If you manage to extremely piss off both political parties, then you are probably doing something right. That's a great post, great great take. All I'm hearing first was what a terrible person Comey is for ruining the election for Hillary. Bad bad Comey. Now all I'm hearing is how great Comey is for having the power to take down evil Trump. Good good Comey.
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Just Sayin: 17-13 Against The Division
QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jun 8, 2017 -> 04:14 PM) It's openly rooting for losing that is ridiculous. This team isn't very good, and they are going to lose a lot, and that is fine, but turning on the game and hoping that someone like Miguel Gonzalez gets lit up so the Sox gain a game in the draft is crazy. My sentiments exactly. When I write this I get reamed badly. Great post. QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Jun 8, 2017 -> 04:56 PM) If a team offers the Sox anything of value (a top 100 prospect and a few more highly touted guys) I'd pack Avi's bags and drive him to the airport myself. Avi is old news. Many fans like you want the mysterious future guy. I wonder if the young guy we take in the draft will ever have a stretch like Avi had to open this season. Some of his hits have been monumental. It's a fair question BTW. There are so many busts in the first round of the draft. Hope Avi continues to have a good season and doesn't flame out again but you can't take away what he did for 2 months.
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President Donald Trump: The Thread
QUOTE (CrimsonWeltall @ Jun 7, 2017 -> 06:11 PM) Comey's statement for tomorrow is out: https://www.intelligence.senate.gov/sites/d...omey-060817.pdf Items of note: 1) Comey did tell Trump that he personally was not being investigated under counter-intelligence (in particular regarding the pee pee tapes). 1b) Trump wanted Comey to make this public. 2) Trump asked for Comey's loyalty multiple times while alone at dinner. 3) Trump cleared out the Oval Office to be alone with Comey and said he hoped Comey could let the Mike Flynn investigation go. 3b) Comey expressed his discomfort about being left alone with Trump to Sessions, who did not respond. 4) Trump repeatedly talked to Comey to complain about the Russia investigation being a "cloud" over his administration and asking how it could be resolved. Is that enough to fire Trump? Begin impeachment?
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I AM WHITE/AMERICAN PRIVILEGE
QUOTE (Reddy @ Jun 7, 2017 -> 04:26 PM) call me a bleeding heart, but the "unfair situation" of taking a little from someone who has a lot, to give a little to someone who has nothing, is something I'm ok with. I understand that others aren't. But there we have the fundamental disagreement between Democrats and Republicans. Why didn't you support Bernie harder then?
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OBAMA/TRUMPCARE MEGATHREAD
Wow, this is all boiling up toward revolution. If this bill passes won't there be riots immediately? The gap between 1 percenters and those about to go broke and be homeless when they have one serious hospital stay grows every day.
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I AM WHITE/AMERICAN PRIVILEGE
QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 7, 2017 -> 02:08 PM) https://www.yahoo.com/news/woman-chinese-fo...-175435160.html Canadian Woman Tells Workers To 'Go Back To China’.. While Ordering Chinese Food in a Toronto grocery What crap to say that at all, much less desiring the product the person you are insulting is providing you. I always think of that scene in that movie where people give the waiter s*** so they put all kinds of junk in their food to get even.
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Just Sayin: 17-13 Against The Division
QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jun 7, 2017 -> 06:58 PM) Look greg, we get it, you don't believe in the draft. You make zero points, you use the same tired examples. Just stop already I'm sick of you telling me to stop already when I'M RESPONDING TO PEOPLE'S COMMENTS! Do you think I'm just bringing it up out of nowhere? How many times are people being told to shut up who are bringing up Benetendi EVERY DAY?? Just because my take is unpopular doesn't mean I can't defend myself. It's OK to bring up Benetendi every day but I can't bring up Trout and the Sox lousy front office? I guess I'll be banned soon. My examples are "tired" and Benetendi example isn't??? People with the unpopular opinion are not encouraged to speak at all on here. Very very sad.
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Just Sayin: 17-13 Against The Division
QUOTE (Soha @ Jun 4, 2017 -> 11:45 AM) Obviously every one of us would rather pick 30th than tank. The whole point is to win a World Series. The pro tank people are tired of running in quicksand and want to see some actual progress towards a championship. It's not a hard concept to get. A lot of people would rather tank than pick 29th. QUOTE (Jenksy Cat @ Jun 7, 2017 -> 06:25 AM) I want them to lose 162 games so we can pick whoever we want in 2018. Don't you realize you draftniks are falling for the biggest cliche in sports: Only caring about the future. Wanting the quarterback who never plays to take over. The unknown is always more mysterious and better than the known. You want the best possible draftee. You are all assuming your front office will take the right guy, sign the right guy, develop the right guy. Give me a winning team now. Give me all wins NOW. I'll take as many wins as we can get because a.) I don't care about the draft one iota. Whatever player we get, fine, I'll read the hype on him one day and hope to see him in the big leagues. In the meantime, give me wins now and give me free agents. The money the team spends? They should spend a TON considering what they are charging fans for food, drink and tickets and parking. I am much less front office friendly than most of you who trust our team to pick the right guy. There's always an excuse. Gee if the team on the field would have lost 2 more games we wouldn't have taken Rodon we'd have had Benetendi!!! Why didn't the team just lose 10 more that year?" Man I'm glad I'll never think that way. I want wins each night they take the field. Even this pathetic team. Give me a win tonight.
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Hawk to retire at the end of 2018 season
QUOTE (Lip Man 1 @ Jun 7, 2017 -> 04:04 AM) He may be 'sickened' by the product (aren't we all?) but he's getting very well paid for the trouble of doing so at least. Very true. I forgot about the $$$ temporarily and he probably makes $600,000 or more a year I'd think.
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June 6th Game Thread: White Sox @Tampa Bay Rays
QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 7, 2017 -> 02:42 AM) Seemingly a nice trade value night. Love seeing Anderson being aggressive on the bases. Fathom you know better than that. Q has a 5.50 ERA; he's not bringing back much if anything; Robertson is a good not a great closer, ditto; Frazier brings NOTHING. Melky brings NOTHING; Holland NOTHING. We'll get something for Q and Robertson, but not much and that's it on this horses*** team.
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Hawk to retire at the end of 2018 season
I watched the Hawk dugout interview with the media from last week or whenever. He just always mentions the grandkids. He just wants to be around them and help them with their baseball which is great. I can't help but think the horribleness of the Sox product now and for the next 5 years really has soured him on baseball. Can you picture seeing as many games as he has in his life? I am thinking he just has no interest in watching bad baseball. I bet he'd come up with a way to make it work with his grandkids (maybe take a full month off when they play the most games) if the Sox actually had a team worth watching. I mean he has to be sickened by the product.
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Rodon Rehab Starts
Not saying today's Rodon line his means anything, but I'm a little surprised our fans give Hahn and KW the benefit of the doubt on our younger prospects. Frankly I don't trust either of them at all at this point. They've made a ton of bad acquisitions including Melky, Dunn, Frazier, Beckham, Tank, so many of the bullpen hacks we've had since our last good Sox team. Just don't understand why you all aren't in more of a wait and see on Fulmer and Rodon. Both easily could be additional flameouts. I'm not asking for their firing (KW deserves credit and admiration for 05 and Hahn may be good) but ... why the unabashed trust of them? p.s.: I do respect Melky for taking a ball flush off the face and continuing his at bat and getting a hit.
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President Donald Trump: The Thread
QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 6, 2017 -> 05:01 PM) In the 21st century? Not really. If you are aligned with a political party, you know you have a minimum of 35 to 40% of the country that will make excuses for you, no matter what. Party has become more important than honest, integrity or anything else to the vast majority of voters. Great post. I think it's 100 percent true.
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Renteria is a horrible in-game manager
QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Jun 5, 2017 -> 07:49 PM) I'm sick of the bunts. As far as the bullpen usage goes WTF is he supposed to even do when your starters are this bad and/or can't go more than 80 pitches? The injuries to the rotation have finally caught up to the Sox the past two weeks and it's showing in the strain on the pen. I really, really, really want to see Shields, Lopez and Rodon in this rotation by July. Start building some trade value for Shields and start building for the future with Rodon and Lopez. You are a great poster, but please ... we're getting NOTHING for Shields. My gosh, what team would want anything to do with him?
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Bill Maher does something very stupid
QUOTE (MexSoxFan#1 @ Jun 4, 2017 -> 08:18 AM) I find it amusing that you didn't know that lunatic Nugent said those things. You listen to waaay too much rightwing radio crap. Nugent clarified his remarks about Obama this week. CNN link or somewhere. He said he wasn't gonna kill anybody. QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jun 4, 2017 -> 02:57 PM) Maybe if you don't want to be associated with Rush, you should stop parroting what he says and acting like he is a good source for factual information(lots of people listen, folks!) A lot of people do listen. The guy is mega wealthy and mega popular. Why is he discounted immediately? QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jun 5, 2017 -> 02:08 PM) Pot meet kettle. Tell me where I said Maher was ok saying what he said I'll wait And while you are looking, let me know the last time Rush apologized for anything he said. Rush is smarter than saying something that will get him fired. Oops, Monday Night Football canned his ass. As far as sponsors dropping him, I don't know how he's even on the air with the bizarre ads that appear on that show. If's all products designed to rip off aging white men and ridiculous scam type products.
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2017 Democratic Thread
QUOTE (bmags @ Jun 5, 2017 -> 03:50 PM) I agree with Greg. DNC definitely tried to clear the field and it's a mistake that people won't let them make again. But, its usually difficult to find candidates after a two termer. See, once again I am RIGHT. Thank u for the endorsement here. Of course they "cleared the field." It was Hillary. Too bad the DNC fell for the "coronation" atmosphere that was going on. Had Biden been encouraged you dont think he'd have been a winner and crushed Trump?