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I'll put this in the Republican thread. My feelings as of today. I prefer Trump to be President over Hlllary. However, I will vote for neither. I will still write in Jesse Ventura. I still don't believe Trump has a chance. Cause this is all according to form. The stories recently are all about Trump having a chance. That's setting up ALL the stories about how Hillary won the debates by an overwhelming margin and she will run away with the election. You wait. Trump should refuse to debate. Cause all the Chris Matthews' of the world and ALL the pundits will claim she just plain KILLED Trump in head to head debate competition. No media pundit would EVER admit to Trump winning a debate. So the coronation is beginning folks, right after the first debate. You wait. She will be declared the big winner just as she was over Bernie.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Sep 20, 2016 -> 10:52 PM) It is this example for why I am embarassed about the message we are sending to the young and impressionable children of our generation as it relates to this election. The manner / lack of civility that people are showing one another in this process and the way people are trying to get elected is just deplorable and sets the stage for people thinking this is okay (and yes, I understand it is each parents job to instill quality morals, etc, but man, if you can't look at the president of the US and say that they exhibit fine behaviors, then that is a really bad thing, imo). I don't agree with Obama, but I certainly don't have an issue to how he holds himself up in the public eye and I would be perfectly fine if my kids looked at him as an example of a mentor, etc, for how to speak / treat others, etc. I would have a problem if it was Trump and to be frank, while to a lesser extent (purely on this ground), issues with the other side as well. I don't think you have to worry about sending any messages to children. The Millenials have proven that parents are doing such a poor job of raising kids that they don't want to work, they are lazy and all the other things people say about Millenials. No need to worry about children. They have no chance cause since American adults certainly have proven they don't know how to raise kids. Participation trophies; coddling them, screaming at teachers who give Johnny and Julie a B instead of A, on and on.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Sep 20, 2016 -> 07:39 PM) And who exactly will police the rest of the nation when every police officer is at this symposium? Or do we just hope that nobody notices all the police are gone today? Sorry I meant send one person of every ethnicity in every police force in the country. So lets say Oak Lawn would be represented by a white cop, a black cop, a Mexican cop, etc. 4-5 from every department.

How could the Sox be so stupid as to acquire Shields? Fireable offense.

Allegedly the gap is closing and Trump today has a chance. I wonder if he'll blow it in the debates? It's a hard call if u are Trump. If you attack Hillary mercilessly you could be seen as a bully. If I were Trump, I think I'd try to be as polite as possible. First of all what does he call her? Hillary? Madaam Secretary (of State)? Gov. Clinton? I think I'd always be polite and say, "With all due respect, people cannot trust you. With all due respect, people see you as a liar because of things you've said. With all due respect, you would be a disaster dealing with Putin and China." I think people will be turned off if he just screams, "Crooked Hillary" at her. Yet she kind of ate polite Bernie alive. Can she do the same to Trump? Bernie cost himself the nomination when he backed her on the email thing.

I've been thinking about this. All these bad decisions by police are leading up to something major. The police need to cut this s*** out. Incident after incident is just asking for some kind of revolutionary violent protest, the likes of which we've probably never seen. There needs to be a national symposium with Obama demanding all police forces (yes every single police force in the USA) send representatives of all ethnic groups and get them together NOW. Hold it at a racetrack that seats 150,000 or more people. If we're talking 350,000 people then have two sessions or something.

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Sep 20, 2016 -> 03:00 PM) Fine. You disagree with what he's doing and can't understand it. Fantastic. Nobody cares. People have clearly argued both sides in this thread and nobody's opinion is changing. Why it needs to be rehashed by quotes with some other famous person's opinion makes no sense to me. Well, that's the nature of arguing and arguing one's point. An effective tactic in arguing a point is citing what different people say. When I say the military is upset and many say the military is not upset, it's taught in debate to cite instances to prove your own point. I try to cite those instances. Also when I make a point, off times I begin to wonder if indeed I could be wrong. When I see somebody support my point, it fires me up and makes me want to cite such person.

QUOTE (Deadpool @ Sep 20, 2016 -> 05:47 PM) TWTW is complete garbage. The team just isn't good enough and management goes in every year setting them up for failure. The end. Glad Jose isn't blind, but he also overvalues TWTW apparently. I kind of agree. You need talent to win. But ... there's no question the Sox look flat against teams from the Central. I do think the other teams are more alert, more savvy and do "want it more." The emotional part of baseball can be crap like you say, but I do think what Jose said is true.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 20, 2016 -> 03:58 PM) Chicago White Sox 27 mins · Yesterday Jose Abreu hit his 25th home run of the season, marking the first time a White Sox player has hit 25+ home runs in each of his first 3 MLB seasons. http://whitesoxpride.mlblogs.com/…/sox-look-to-bounce-back…/ That's pretty neat. No need to be anything but pleased with Abreu.

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Sep 20, 2016 -> 03:33 AM) <!--quoteo(post=3426707:date=Sep 19, 2016 -> 06:10 PM:name=Big Hurtin)-->QUOTE (Big Hurtin @ Sep 19, 2016 -> 06:10 PM) <!--quotec-->Another shooting, in Tulsa http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/tulsa-...rence-crutcher/ Father of four. His truck stalled in the road. Was on his way home from class. Why did they shoot this man?? WTF is going on? Our country is in DEEP trouble folks.

My positions aren't those of a troll. Once again, support for greg's position on a subject . ... http://ijr.com/2016/09/695609-marine-colon..._term=ijamerica

QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 20, 2016 -> 02:19 AM) So Abreu states the Sox don't want it as much as the Royals do. Finally somebody said it. Sox don't want it most times they take the field. For some reason they seem to play hard against the AL East and the Cubs get their attention UNTIL we assure ourselves at least a split in the series. Sox played so passively after winning those 2 in the Cell. The other teams in the Central care about beating the Sox; the Sox could give a s*** about beating those teams in the Central. They mail in those games effort wise. You guys despised Ozzie but he wouldn't have put up with this s*** without calling out these bums.

I haven't studied WHY they honored Joe on Saturday at all so I may be way off base. Was it some kind of anniversary? My take, however, is brutal. Look ... Penn State should be distancing itself from Joe P. Just not EVER talking about him, mentioning his name, etc. What need was there to honor Joe Saturday? Why?? To please his relatives? Just no need to honor Joe Pa. Ridiculous. PSU officials should be ashamed of themselves. The most recent news about Joe was some report not too long ago that he knew about Sandusky's behavior. Disgusting and no school should be honoring Joe right now. Maybe in 20 years or something if it's been proven Joe didn't know.

QUOTE (pettie4sox @ Sep 19, 2016 -> 09:03 PM) Is it too much to ask for .500 ball in that area? I'm sure the front office doesn't see this as a problem. It's scouting. It's our team not responding to the challenge. Other teams treat the games more importantly than the Sox. They realize uh, these games matter more! It's going to take a while to get over this ineptitude vs. the Central. We need a good manager first of all. I don't know if just adding Renteria is going to matter much.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Sep 19, 2016 -> 03:23 AM) One thing they both have in common is trouble staying healthy. Saladino has had several injuries, and is currently out after hearing a pop in his calf Friday night. Might need them both around to make it through a season. I didn't realize Tyler was injury prone. Not good obviously.

QUOTE (DrunkBomber @ Sep 18, 2016 -> 10:48 PM) Last night Hillary gets interviewed about the attacks in NY/NJ/MIN, calls them bombings. Less than a minute later criticizes Trump for calling them bombings before the details come out. CNN realizes her mistake and covers for her by editing her use of the word bombings from the interview. Like I said, it's disgraceful, but media members just have to have a Democrat in the oval office. Hillary is pure despicable yet we've got to have her eight years, followed by eight more of you know who. I don't get it. Why cover for her?? Trump's not going to win.

Do a google on Eleanor Mondale and you see some racy stuff. I won't address the allegations unless you tell me they were true.

QUOTE (Lillian @ Sep 18, 2016 -> 11:55 AM) No one seems to mention the "eye test". The more I've watch both Lawrie and Saladino, the more I favor the latter. Perhaps it's that terrible hitch in Lawrie's swing and all of the accompanying strike outs. Whatever it is, Tyler just looks like a more fundamentally solid player. It's a shame because Lawrie has talent. Some guys just seem to have that baseball acumen and Saladino strikes me as one of those guys. When Lawrie broke into the Big Leagues, he was young, even for a rookie. He began his career with a world of promise, but has not developed, in fact, he has regressed. He should now be in his prime, but has not translated his physical tools into performance. Maybe that's something that requires good baseball acumen. Put another way; the better the baseball acumen, the better a player is able to use his experience, in order to improve his performance. Saladino gives one the impression that he is that kind of player. Do others here get the same impression? Yes. Yes. Yes. I always use the eye test even though it angers the stat-niks. Just get rid of Lawrie and try to get a serviceable bullpen guy for him and insert Tyler at 2B. That's a helluva infield in theory: Frazier, Anderson, Saladino and Abreu.

Even when KC is going bad we usually find a way to lose the series. Weird. They'd lost five straight before yesterday.

Jim Brown on Syracuse.com says about what I've been saying about Colin's stance insulting the military and there being better ways to protest. SYRACUSE.com link for those who again think I'm trolling http://www.syracuse.com/orangefootball/ind...al_activis.html Brown, however, cautioned that police shootings and cases of police brutality can't be lumped together and protested against in bulk. "The things he's pointing to are things that should be evaluated and handled by those in a superior position to him," Brown said. "When you talk about police killing people and brutality, that is not something you can just march in the streets and protest against because every case is a different case and should be adjudicated. We have people in position in the political arena that should be spearheading those types of things. That issue is above football players." He also questioned the wisdom of using the national anthem to boost the visibility of the protest. "You can point it out but you don't necessarily want to disrespect the national anthem or the flag," Brown said. "There are outside entities that are trying to bring this country down. We have to go back to the memories of 9-11. If that memory doesn't do anything to you as an American, then you're not really that sensitive a human being. When you think of the sacrifices our firefighters make, think about the service of soldiers in foreign lands and listen to their lives, you have to be careful that whatever you do, don't cast a shadow on what these great people do. They make sure you have the right so speak out without retaliation, or at least no retaliation other than other people criticizing you."

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Sep 18, 2016 -> 12:59 PM) Would a Republican try to control pharmaceutical prices? Even for the Epipen (worth noting a Democratic senator's daughteris the one responsible for unchecked avarice there, Manchin.) Let's not forget you'd have lost all the Detroit automakers' jobs (let them fail, Romney famously said) and Bush is the one who created the unfunded mandate in Medicare Part B which blew up the budget by another $1-2 trillion. Another $3-5 trillion was defense spending on multiple wars in the Middle East which clearly have't made the world any safer from terrorism, as you pointed out. Well I did vote for Obama, so I didn't want Romney to do anything in the oval office. Obama cemented Hillary's victory today by imploring black voters to vote for her. He said it would be a personal insult if they don't. Look for her numbers to rise dramatically starting now. This is about when the media will start pushing hard for Hillary too. Maybe let one week of October pass then the blitz begins. Hillary will win in a landslide. It's like Donald says. It's fixed. Hillary is going to have a very fun next six weeks as she gets the boost the Democratic candidate usually receives come election time. https://www.yahoo.com/news/obama-black-vote...-152203956.html

I always enter 3 leagues. I usually win one of them and usually make the playoffs in 2 of the three.

QUOTE (Middle Buffalo @ Sep 17, 2016 -> 09:54 PM) I don't cheer against them, but I will be happy when (please) they lose. Most,if not all, of my friends who root for the Cubs are good fans. It's not them I worry about. It's more the collective douchiness of their fans and the media slurping that sickens me. I hate that their fans are so proud that they are the majority of the crowd at some away games. it just seems that a good number of their fans care more about being part of the fan group than they care about the actual team. It's like the people who are on social media who only care about how many friends or followers they have. Yeah the Bartman series I was resigned to the fact they were going to the WS. I was in the "wishing them well" mode. Then when they blew it I found I was pretty happy they blew it.

Sports fans are amazing. The Royals fans booed Soria mercilessly this week when he pitched. And Yost for putting him in there. Fans always think they are the best. Then they pull s*** like that. Fans are all the same. A bunch of them are morons. One of the reasons I'm so loyal to the guys from the 05 Sox for years after they won it is ... they f***ing won it! I'm not going to blast them after giving me nirvana.

Very scary and sad.