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Royals fans are really worried. They are upset with Cueto big time. The Royals slide makes one wonder how in the hell they pulled away so far so quickly and never were challenged in the Central this season. Their starting pitching is putrid right now. Meatball after meatball. Their defense has been made human with the benching of Infante for Zobrist who is no good at second, lol. Rios remains a cancer just by being Rios. The bullpen has had some sore arms and stuff. There's a good chance KC will be fine and cruise to the WS. But the Royals have definitely reeked especially since the Sox kicked their ass finally. Makes you wonder if the Sox manned up earlier and beat the Royals a few times they'd have had a much worse record. Many times they'd be struggling then get well on a diet of White Sox ineptitude.

QUOTE (ROC Sox Fan @ Sep 15, 2015 -> 06:00 AM) [troll]RV replacment? How about that Ozzie guy? [/troll] Ok, if the mods want me to cease and desist, just ask. But I've been thinking about this. ... In light of Danks' and Beckham's quotes in that article ... how bout a return to Oz? Yes as White Sox manager. He knows how to motivate baseball players to get off their high paid asses and compete. He makes the game fun. He is able to take the pressure off lousy players like Melky and LaRoche by being a colorful manager. How bout a one-year contract for Ozzie with tons of incentives. Ozzie loves money. Sign him one year for 1.2 million. He gets 200,000 if at season's end Reinsdorf decides he was good with the media and not too controversial. He gets 200,000 for a Central title and 100,000 for a wildcard berth. He gets 800,000 if we reach the ALDS and 1 million if we win the world series. Meanwhile, Robin gets promoted to Buddy Bell's job. Bell is fired!!! I like this a lot. Please, Ozzie Guillen can manage. We all know that. -- I am serious. If this post is out of line let me know and I'll stop. I was suspended over Ozzie/Jenks arguments in the past and would like to stay qualified to post.

People that say he quit slay me. How come that is never mentioned in the media? Cause it's stupid. The Sox wanted him gone and he quickly negotiated a deal. This is big-boy sports. The White Sox did not want him. They chose KW. He bolted. So who cares?? Seriously. This quitting thing baffles me. I've NEVER seen it mentioned in the media. The only thing they mentioned is the hatred of Ozzie/Kenny and all the non-PC stuff Ozzie said to the press. Quitting? That team quit on Ozzie and he merely left. None of you wanted him back for the final year on his deal, anyway. He did you all a favor. Who cares if he quit with a week to go and why is that NEVER mentioned in the media?? Cause it's a non issue to most.

Lexi with the putrid at bat. Man, he couldn't lay off that crap pitch on 3-2? I see Johnny baby pitched well tonight again. Sweet.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Sep 14, 2015 -> 02:41 AM) What policy positions of his do you support Flat tax, baby!!! No IRS!! http://www.pbs.org/newshour/updates/ben-ca...ands-10-issues/

I'm falling for Dr. Ben. He needs to be our next president, folks. He is not a politician and simply cares about what's best for our country. At some point we have to let the lifetime politicians know (Hillary, Bush, et. all) that we don't care for do-nothing rhetoric. We want the successful surgeon. Or should want the successful surgeon.

The Sox need desperately ... a.) power bats. Anybody available from Cuba that the team could sign? Or is Viciedo gonna be ready for the comeback? b.) bullpen. The bullpen is horrific. Can it be fixed? c.) defense. The defense blows. Can it be fixed? d.) Some righthanded veteran starting pitcher who can pitch effectively. All four of these areas must be improved drastically.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 13, 2015 -> 07:49 PM) Over the past 10 seasons we're 29th of 30 teams in the big leagues in defense. Only Cleveland is worse. The White Sox regularly flat out don't care about defense. The best teams over that time have won an extra ~50 games due to defense. I wish Sox had better defense, better bullpen and some guys who could hit home runs in the Cell besides Abreu.

Today's game is ANOTHER reminder of how bad this team is and how far it has to go. It's not just going to magically start winning in April. I do hope we finish last in the Central if we can't finish first. Sox haven't exactly beat up on Detroit this season, either. One thing about the Sox. Buying a season ticket is really a bad investment if your goal is to have fun. Now if you just LOVE the ballpark and got to be there 30 times a season and give the rest of your tickets away, fine. But look at today's game. During the Robin era, there's a good chance if you go to a Sox home game you get what happened today. Sox are one under .500 now at home. That just blows. Wonder how they are gonna fix this mess. Even with 'arguably' the best starting staff in the AL we are a pathetic team.

Loyola pounded Brother Rice. Score coulda been much worse. 28-0.

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Sep 12, 2015 -> 04:20 PM) Gotta factor in we play a lot of divisional games. That can bury us. All of a sudden, we own the Royals, though. (joke).

QUOTE (Saufley @ Sep 12, 2015 -> 05:25 PM) and we won't find answers next spring training because our spring trainings are a joke. Nate is just another Petricka with a bit more upside IMO.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Sep 12, 2015 -> 05:32 AM) All I will say is this...for as much as some of you guys like to get on your high horses and lecture the rest of us about how morally deficient we are, we had a thread where one of our own posters was faced with losing his home. Of course, not one of you so much as touched it. Not an offer of advice, not any research, nothing. Now maybe some of you reached out privately to the poster, and if that is the case, well then I take back what I said. But many of the same folks that are telling the rest of us all how we should be living happen to be absent when the rubber hits the road. Are u crazy? Tons of people responded to scs. Tons of advice was given. Shack, seriously, were you looking at the right thread? Scs got a lot of support/advice. s***, you start a fundraising campaign for him. I'll give something.

I have a sneaky feeling Cubs will get beat pretty good in the one game wildcard at Pittsburgh. Only hope for Cubbies is to play that thing in Wrigley. I am not a big fan of the one-game Wildcard. As a Sox fan, I'm not even crazy about that. I want to win the division or not make the playoffs at all. The one-game WC is bad for baseball IMO. One game?? Give me the division title and a real playoff series or give me nothing.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Sep 12, 2015 -> 03:45 AM) That Hungarian reporter/camerawoman should be ashamed of herself. Tripping a father running with his young son in his arms? That would make Greg's Top Ten awful list if it happened in the U.S. outside a church. I actually hadn't heard about it. Just saw the clip. WTF was she doing? Is she against refugees? That dad had no chance but to go sprawling. If I was him I'd be tempted to go back and break her camera at least. WTF?? That's assault. She should be in jail.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 10, 2015 -> 11:05 PM) Can we all at least agree that saying this about his own daughter is a little f***ed up? Somehow I think Bill Clinton saying that about Chelsea would get a little bit of press.... Donald is pretty outrageous. If ANYBODY else says that s*** about his own daughter, he/she is a goner from the race. Instantly. Person is branded a psycho/predator type and that's that. It's still a non-sequitir which is going on in America. Americans remain incredibly P.C. (the latest is Caitlyn Jenner blasted by Ellen for not being 100 percent in favor of gay marriage), yet Americans are loving Trump being so non P.C. So Hulk Hogan and the rest of the world have to watch their Ps and Qs at all times, and Trump can say whatever he wants and everybody laughs/applauds. What.A.Country.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Sep 11, 2015 -> 10:47 PM) I'd imagine more are going to start falling off soon. Trump's sucking all the oxygen out of the room and none of the lower-polling candidates can get any traction. Will be interesting if the Republican candidates who have experience in government will quickly follow suit and drop out or weather the storm until the three frontrunners (all with no experience), Donnie, Surgeon and CEO failure Florina, lose their mo-jo.

Good. He's had a fine season for a newcomer. I think he's been great. Shut him down. No need to pitch him any more.

Talking about all time Sox teams is senseless cause people always want to mention the old, old, old timers and thus anybody who played past 1960 pretty much is pooh-poohed or laughed out of the discussion. I hate having to put the old oldtimers on the list, making it a very boring list/discussion. I mean try to put Buehrle on a list and you'll get Ted Lyons'ed and Billy Pierced to death.

QUOTE (Lip Man 1 @ Sep 12, 2015 -> 04:03 AM) I've found that guys who are "mental midgets" are generally poor at baseball fundamentals and simply don't know how to play the game. The Sox have them by the bushel full. Which explains a lot to me. Again it comes back to accountability. There is very little showing in this franchise right now. I understand you can't fine players for doing stupid things and not executing like Richards, Lopez and Stanky could do but you sure can bench guys, or send them back down to the minor leagues. Instead we get another game where guys like Ramirez, LaRoche and Melky are in the lineup instead of kids who need seasoning and to see what they can do. Mark Lip Man is a wise man. He speaketh the truth. LaRoche's pop ups are growing mighty annoying. Melky just blows. Horrible acquisition of a guy whose power is gone.

QUOTE (Lip Man 1 @ Sep 12, 2015 -> 04:04 AM) In JR's mind there's a big reason... probably a few million of them......it's called being under contract for next year. Mark Somebody at sox fest should ask KW or Hahn if they feel confident the Sox can survive that long road trip to start next season over .500. I mean I don't want to be a broken record (already) but are any of you confident the Sox can get through those first 13 games better than 5-8? or 4-9? That would immediately tell the fanbase and the world that .500 remains the best case scenario for the season. And those games aren't even full of Central teams, which normally mean tons of Losses. Maybe managers don't matter at all. But I have no confidence Robin's troops can even play .500 ball the first 2-3 weeks of April.

QUOTE (kitekrazy @ Sep 12, 2015 -> 03:51 AM) Another mental midget performance by the pen. They seem to get the idea of playing for a better draft pick. Yeah. Robertson is back to not getting many save opportunities. This pen, as it turned out, would have been a major problem in September if the Sox actually had been in WC contention. It might behoove the Sox to convert some of these top draft picks into reliable relievers. In this day and age having a couple good setup guys is almost as important as starters. Sox really have nobody reliable back there except Robertson (sort of, pretty much). The rest of those guys are un-reliable at best.

QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 12, 2015 -> 03:07 AM) You mean like if Avi didn't rob a grand slam? Overall, this was an awful game. No one besides Olt played well. And Olt is fool's gold. IMO if he gets the job next year it'll have the same outcome as Gillaspie, midseason release.

Ho hum. The usual Central Division suspects own us. Plouffe has been a thorn before. Just like Rayburn, etc. If I were Jerry, I'd have a meeting with Robin, Hahn and KW and ask them their plan to become competitive in the Central again. I have a feeling our advance scouts aren't helping much, but we get beat by the same guys way too often. I mean, Robin is gonna be back and there's no reason to believe any of this is gonna change next season.

Sox have had so many bad relievers the last couple years of Ozzie and the Robin era. I wonder if it's the same for all teams, but it seems we've had some really BAD relievers.