JoeC

Tell me, Greg. Who have the Yankees been losing to all these years, and what strategies have THEY employed? Again, this is all ironic coming from a guy who made a career out of playing a position that, 30 years earlier, would have been considered evidence of a failed career.

FYP

@Look at Ray Ray Run and I went over this a couple of weeks back. Basically, I think you guys are in agreement. That said, the distinction is that, in Ray Ray's view, guys like Bannister (the coaching staff / development-responsible guys) should let the talent acquisition guys (scouts, GM, analysts, etc.) know the types of player they need, but they shouldn't be in charge of acquiring the players. The talent acquisition guys should know these preferences and tendencies and be able to identify the right players based on the coaches' input, but the acquisitions ultimately need to be made by a group that specializes in it.

So THAT was the other shoe with this FO move. Getz was got.

So you’re mad that he hasn’t made a positively impactful move, correct? This is the type of move that happens all the time across all orgs. I’m critical of Getz’s player acquisitions and player personnel decisions, but I fail to see how this waiver pickup is a cause to be upset.

I mean, at least this signing won't be the reason we don't get someone better.

Getz at least seems to make good hires and want to move the organization in the right direction. I just hope he knows how to acquire players and develop a front office structure / coaching structure that can develop players in a cohesive manner.

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Yeah, this is one of those acquisitions that I really have no idea why people would be upset over. If the Sox were making this acquisition out to be some franchise-altering signing worthy of a press release with someone else's signature, that's one thing.... but this is literally a waiver wire pickup of a lottery ticket. Big f'ing whoop.

You do realize the Hall of Fame's standards, generally speaking, are greatness in comparison to your era's peers, right? That's why you have guys like Edgar Martinez, Frank Thomas, and Trevor Hoffman in the Hall. Back when they were playing, there was still a lot of debate over if they deserved to be in the Hall because of their positions (DH = failed fielder; CL / RP = failed starter). The Hall's standards evolve with the game, so the whole "you need (x) wins to get in the Hall" is an extremely outdated notion.

Lachlan Hoogheem, a cousin (by marriage) to Lars Nootbaar

What if I told you it could be both?

Now, now. Let's not be reasonable here.

Yeah, that's the confusing part. I'm half wondering if the change was temporary and just enough to keep the hitters guessing a little more.

It was documented at the time:

Yeah, but has that stopped us before?

Philosophical question: At what point is it no longer a "rebuild" and just a "build." If there was nothing built to begin with, can you rebuild?

Even if he did win the lottery, do you think he’d invest it into player payroll?

It’s an ILLUSION!

The most painful call of the season IMO by Schriffen…. In a way that people who could actually relate to for once.

I have been generally happy with the staffing decisions Getz has made. It sounds like this is a positive hire. I just hope enough of the rest of the org is in place to give Venable a fair shake to develop the guys here .….now player acquisitions, on the other hand,…

"...out his fanbase to get what he wants"

Controversial take, at least by internet standards: I don't have an opinion on this hiring yet. There. I said it. Decidedly undecided. I hope that's not too controversial.

We would need to improve by 40 wins just to get to mediocrity. Unless your definition of "several" is 15~20, we're more than "several players" away.

I hope that Getz ACTUALLY gets the final say... not necessarily because I distrust him less than I trust TLR, but more because it'll be a sign that there's actually a clear set of responsibilities in the decision-making process. The one thing I can forgive Hahn for is the fact that it seems like key decisions were taken out of his hands after 2020 (cough, cough, TONY). Of course he had more than his fair share of f***-ups, but I want Getz to be able to be judged exclusively on the decisions Chris Getz makes, without the benefit of the "his hands were tied" or "it was really Tony's team" doubt.