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Maybe they could do what Houston did last year, picking Stroud and then trading up to select Anderson.

If they go Williams, I’m hoping they address the wideout situation and the left tackle.

I heard something about him not declaring for for the draft unless they traded the pick. That doesn’t make much sense because he needs to declare if he wants to be drafted. Otherwise he would need to go to the supplemental draft. I would need to know more about Williams’ character to evaluate him. I just hope he wants to play football and doesn’t want to pull an Eli Manning on the Bears.

Did anyone see anything about Caleb Williams and the Bears today that was true? I saw some rumors around him wanting them to trade the number one pick. I didn’t see anyone reputable report anything so I think it’s a non issue and that he will declare tomorrow.

When is the bonus paid out?

Agreed. They are increasing their subscriber base but alienating viewers. Put the damn game on NBC where it belongs.

Reinsdorf should have booed since the franchise hasn’t done much since 1998, he sucks with the Bulls and White Sox and his organization put on a crappy event. Pippen and Jordan should have tolerated each other and been there. Good for Ron Harper for comforting Jerry Krause’s widow.

I had to look up some of these names to see who you were talking about so this is a great deep dive on potential OCs. Waldron and Bienemy would be numbers one and two and arguments could be made for Dorsey, Bevell, Smith, Kingsbury, Kubiak, Leftwich, Kafka, Moore and even Reich. Hopefully they hire Waldron.

Thanks for your thoughts. What if Eric Bienemy was a possibility? What about Greg Roman? Where would you put them?

2023: QB Bryce Young, Alabama 2021: QB Trevor Lawrence, Clemson, Jaguars 2020: QB Joe Burrow, LSU, Bengals 2019: QB Kyler Murray, Oklahoma, Cardinals 2018: QB Baker Mayfield, Oklahoma, Browns 2016: QB Jared Goff, Cal, Rams 2015: QB Jameis Winston, Florida State, Buccaneers 2012: QB Andrew Luck, Stanford, Colts 2011: QB Cam Newton, Auburn, Panthers 2010: QB Sam Bradford, Oklahoma, Rams 2009: QB Matthew Stafford, Georgia, Lions 2007: QB JaMarcus Russell, LSU, Raiders 2005: QB Alex Smith, Utah, 49ers 2004: QB Eli Manning, Ole Miss, Chargers 2003: QB Carson Palmer, USC, Bengals 2002: QB David Carr, Fresno State, Texans 2001: QB Michael Vick, Virginia Tech, Falcons 1999: QB Tim Couch, Kentucky, Browns 1998: QB Peyton Manning, Tennessee, Colts Underline is jury is still out. Italics is bust with the first team. Bold is bust. I did this rather quickly so I may be off on some.

I saw several times yesterday where Fields had no chance and would have been throwing it out of bounds or getting called for intentional grounding. Even if Maye or Williams is selected that high? That is one argument. I don’t think I’m arguing for a specific system as much as I am wanting a different OC, another left tackle and a stud WR to go with Fields.

I’m echoing what people want that Fields apparently can’t do and making that the measuring stick for Williams or Maye. I still think Fields can put it together and don’t think we’ve seen him at his best yet. I don’t know what system is going to be the best for him, but I would like to see what a Getsy getting canned and adding more talent around Fields would do. But I am also accepting the fact that the Bears could move on from Fields.

No, I expect that if the Bears draft him, that he’s the guy that they’ve needed. And that if he’s so great as I’m reading, Williams better be on point with throws, reads, passes to where receivers are going, overcoming shitty offensive line and wide receiver play because the quarterback is supposed to overcome all of that. I’m not asking for a prediction as much as I’m asking what people expect out of a highly drafted quarterback in Williams or Maye. Maybe Mahomes level stats after year one or two is what people should expect. I have never understood what Bears fans really expect from their quarterbacks (think Grossman, Orton or Cutler) when they’ve been here. Probably Peyton Manning or Tom Brady level of performance.

But I think there needs to be some level of which to measure Williams if he truly is generational like they say he is. It can’t be just that his numbers are better than Fields. It has to be about results and I think if we are thinking higher than what we have now and where the team is now, Williams needs to be held accountable on a high level. Brad Biggs reported that Eberflus is set to talk with ownership mid this week. He also believes Eberflus is safe.

I’m basically asking if Williams should be elite, or put up Mahomes-esque numbers by the end of the first or second year in the NFL. I want to know what Bears fans expect if they draft Williams. I would expect playoffs at a minimum if they went that route.

So you draft Williams. When is he expected to be elite and who do the Bears draft with their second first round pick?

Is it fair to say that if the Bears draft Williams or Maye, that fans should expect them to be elite by the end of the first year or second, especially with how Williams has been billed as generational?

How do we already know that?

I’m just not sure that even if they draft Williams or Maye without the supporting cast I think they need, that the Bears will get to that next level. They still have several holes.

My comment to that user on Twitter. If Williams or Maye are drafted, are they getting a year under their belt first or are they expected to put up Mahomes like numbers in the first year?

If the goal for Poles is to build sustainable success, I would much rather them build around Fields this next year. Trade out of the first position, get MHJ. Then draft another tackle. Get a center in the second or third round. If Fields doesn’t do it next season, then draft a quarterback in 2025. If they really want to take Williams or Maye, then they have to shore up that starting offensive line and wide receiver core and fast. There also has to be a market for Justin Fields when teams can just get a quarterback in the draft. We will see what they get for him if he gets dealt and where he goes. I also think Eberflus has to go if they are to pick a QB and they have to bring in a Ben Johnson or offensive minded coach. So I’m wondering if Eberflus is gone if that is an indicator of what is to come.

I have not seen a play where he has held onto the ball for too long today. I see more awful line play today. Green Bay’s bread and butter seems to be short passes, runs and get the explosion play. Get into manageable third downs and convert.

32 on the Bears has had a tough game today. That pass was so wobbly. Finally something went the Bears way.

So is the defense.

Fields had no chance to throw that snapped ball.