Everything posted by nrockway
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fresh blood
wouldn't mind seeing Duke Ellis. .830 ops at AA, 16 stolen bases in 13 games! there are a bunch of solid outfielders on this team but I guess there's no real point in rushing them. Colas or DeLoach should be playing over Benintendi. The Red Sox have the nerve to bench their highly-paid corner outfielder, and Yoshida is a much better player than Benintendi is, so why is Benintendi's spot apparently safe?
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4/23 - Sox @ Twins 6:40 - Fedde vs. P. Lopez
Every night lately I think to myself, "what a day, let's relax by watching the replay of my favorite team play my favorite sport." Now I have the good sense to click on any random page of the game thread and gage the reaction of fans to see if it's worth wasting two hours. Thus far, it's not been worth it. The minor leaguers are kinda fun to watch at least.
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C Edgar Quero
C Edgar run C Edgar catch C Edgar hit One, two, three extra base hits WRC+ goes up up up
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Sox are 25th in defensive WAR
I get the logic behind the positional adjustment and I don't take fault with that necessarily. Well I do a little bit, it overrates bad players who play premium positions and underrates first baseman defense generally -- but that's not really my point here, I'm more so critiquing what they give precedence to or ignore when making the calculation. I think Vaughn is a better defensive first baseman, relative to other first basemen, than dWAR calculations gives him credit for. I can't prove it quantitatively, it's just the eye test, he's saved some really god awful throws and turned them into outs. There was a play the other day, I forget who fielded it on the left side of the infield, maybe Mendick, it was a tough, close play but the throw was offline and in the dirt. Vaughn looked like a 200 pound ballerina, I don't know how he contorted his body to make the scoop. I'm exaggerating a little bit but I'm generally impressed with his play at first base; he's missed some hard grounders he probably should've fielded which I think is what's counting against him, but I bet he's saved a couple of runs making catches that other first basemen wouldn't get to (see: Michael Busch. literally the worst first baseman I've ever seen...I'd still rather have him than Vaughn).
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Sox are 25th in defensive WAR
I think however fangraphs calculates defensive WAR for first base and catcher is way off. Both sites do first basemen dirty, to my eye Vaughn has been pretty good defensively. He's turned a lot of bad throws into outs that I don't think other first basemen get. I don't think they do a "zone rating" for scoops/stretches but they should. The catcher point is mostly an aside, but boy does Fangraphs love "framing", something that can't actually be effectively quantified, is a skillset that is predicated on umpire ineptitude and will become entirely useless the second the automated strikezone replaces the home plate ump. Let's consider two catchers: Salvador Perez and Yasmani Grandal. Perez has a fWAR of 16.5 and a bWAR of 34.3. He's so bad at framing that it cost him 20 WAR. Now let's look at Grandal, 38.6 fWAR, 19.6 bWAR. Framing evidently earned him 20 WAR. How can there be such a discrepancy between the two calculations?
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Sox are 25th in defensive WAR
The entire team still makes very dumb defensive lapses (how about that Harper run down) which can only reflect on the coaching staff
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Sox are 25th in defensive WAR
Shewmake had been worse than I thought defensively but I bet most of that negative war is in the outfield. Benintendi and Grossman are two of the worst defensive outfielders I’ve ever seen play baseball. These are the kids you stick in right field because nobody is left handed in little league. Fletcher is ok but doesn’t have the range to play cf and it shows
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4/22: Sox @ Twins - 640CT - Cannon v. Paddack
they need to add an adjustment to FIP: pitched against White Sox. Paddock had an ERA above 8 before becoming prime Gred Maddux against the Sox.
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Who would you pick to replace Grifol? Outside the box answers only.
Albert Pujols. Tony will vouch for him.
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4/21 Sox @ Phils
benintendi and grossman tripping and falling instead of fielding balls was hysterical
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"It's going to take time"
I deluded myself into thinking this team would be better than it was last year. I thought the hitting couldn't possibly get any worse and that the pitching/defense could actually impress. I thought Benintendi might bounce back and Vaughn would finally show something. Boy was I wrong. I don't necessarily blame Getz for that, I can only blame myself.
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Demote Vaughn
can we just relegate the entire team? does that exist in this sport?
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Friday 4/19/24 Sox@Phillies GameThread
well, after that Bohm 3-run home run, I decided I'd check the box score and see what I'm in for. oh s%*#, I mean his first 3-run home run. I think I'll pass on this game.
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Friday 4/19/24 Sox@Phillies GameThread
now that the Bulls have finished losing (for a couple months anyway), I can turn my undivided attention to watch the Sox continue to lose indefinitely!
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Why are there no LH throwing catchers?
I just wanted to play shortstop, man. One time. 70% of the kids can't throw it across the infield anyway, who cares if I have to turn my body? The last game before high school the coach let me play second base. Jerk.
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Friday 4/19/24 Sox@Phillies GameThread
the most memorable Sox game I attended, we went back-to-back-to-back off Randy Johnson. You could probably guess the year.
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Fedde linked to Giants...?
I frankly doubt it. Plenty of teams could have used Clevinger going into the season and know what he's capable of. And if he's toast, it's a minor league contract, no major loss. Re-signing him was the stupidest thing Getz has done, mostly from a moral standpoint but also from a baseball perspective too. There are about 10 pitchers in the organization that I'd rather see develop than watch Clevinger's old slimy ass net the Sox 2 extra wins in a 120 loss season.
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Best Derogatory/Insulting White Sox nicknames?
I've always been partial to "Yasmani Groundball" .
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What should Getz do with LuBob?
I'm pretty sure LuBob was the second woman to convert to Islam alongside her buddy Khadija. Or was that Lubaba.
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"It's going to take time"
“We knew that it was going to be a challenge to play consistent winning baseball. And I say winning in terms of a wins and losses standpoint,” oh dang, winning in terms of the standpoint where you win instead of lose. interesting strategy, will it work?
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Fedde linked to Giants...?
I tend to agree but he's a free agent after next season. Could the Sox compete next season? Maybe but I wouldn't bank on it. You'd probably prefer to have a player under contract in 2026 and beyond than Fedde for 2024 and 2025 I think.
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C Edgar Quero
I think the funniest thing about it is that they waived all guys they traded for.
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Is Chris Getz revamping the org?
He has been very good through 4 starts. 22.2 IP, 1.99 ERA, 0.93 WHIP. I like this trade more than I did initially but I wonder what we could've gotten if we waited.
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Bleacher Report ranks Sox MiLB system 3rd
I don't think the system is that good but there are a lot of useful players, I could see many guys outside the top 10 turning into good major leaguers. The issue is, what has already been discussed ad nauseum, actually developing those players. Especially hitters. I feel fairly confident in this team's ability to develop a pitching staff and the system is weighted toward pitching. But a lot has to go right for the Sox to turn 4 or 5 of those position players into every day players. It would be nice if Colson could stick at SS while Gonzalez and Ramos pan out and can play 2B and 3B respectively. Hopefully the idea is to pump up our pitchers' value and trade them for guys who can hit and balance out the system. The Mena trade was the right idea, just wasted on a pointless player. Kopech seems like the likeliest candidate to bring back a good player.
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Stop the presses: Sox hold team meeting
They should hold a meeting at a batting cage. What is there to talk about, how they can't hit the baseball? I'd recommend practicing that.