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This move alone just seems like a pure salary dump, which after having 2.9 mill last year should not be acceptable. It will be interesting to see if there's another shoe to drop

Lily is down to Yankees or the Cubs... looking at 10 per for 4... which is a ton of money IMO, especially when that wind is whipping out at Wrigley. So, if the Cubs sign him, get ready for the Cubune and Levine to make Lily out to be the greatest LHP in the last 20 years

huge contract, but a ton of power, and IMO it's natural!

QUOTE(Milkman delivers @ Dec 6, 2006 -> 12:29 PM) That deal doesn't seem as outrageous as I was expecting. he's 33, I thought he was a little older, so yeah, considering what's flying around this offseason, it seems appropriate (again, appropriate in THIS offseason) Great arm when healthy. Posted about this quickly in the winter meetings thread, but this has to be a little hit to the Cubs. Reports were they were going hard after him. Now they'll spend probably 10-12 a year on Meche or Lily. So basically they shelled out a ton of cash to A-Ram and Soriano and are going to struggle now to have any significant upgrade to their rotation. (Get ready for Hendry and the Cubune, Levine also, to just start pumping their young pitchers like their Verlander/Bonderman types)

QUOTE(gar102 @ Dec 6, 2006 -> 12:24 PM) Per Ken Rosenthal - Foxsports.com The Dodgers have landed the biggest free-agent pitching prize to date, reaching a preliminary agreement on a three-year, $47 million contract with right-hander Jason Schmidt, FOXSports.com has learned. Schmidt, 33, chose the Dodgers over the Cardinals and Mariners, both of whom were seeking to add him to the top of their rotation. Link http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/6242312 the money is crazy, I can't wait to see what Lily and Meche eventually get. IMO big loss for the Cubs, they spend a ton on Soriano and haven't done anything to improve their roation. Now they'll probably have to give a ton to one of the two above mentioned pitchers so they at least have arms they can count on to give them innings and have major league experience.

QUOTE(ChiSox9 @ Dec 6, 2006 -> 08:12 AM) Regardless of everything, I dont feel that there is room for mack and his $2M plus salary on this team. We have a solid option with Sweeny in AAA to fill in in the outfield. Our Bench would look more attractive with: Ozuna (in/of), Cintron (in), Gload (in/of), Sweeny (of), Backup Catcher IMHO. I would like to see the Sox add a RH power bat off the bench, I felt the lack of that put them in a bind last year a few times.

QUOTE(T R U @ Dec 5, 2006 -> 10:30 PM) The XFL wasnt bad it just got a bad rap since it was owned by Vince.. I remember when I had friends who thought the wrestlers were going to be playing and I had to tell them no it was a real football league Vince may be venturing outside of Wrestling again. There's various reports that Dream Stage Entertainment is going to have to sell their MMA organization PRIDE, and they have had talks with WWE, UFC and other Asian companies. Would be interesting to see Vince deal in that type of sport where bets are taken and has to be sanctioned by athletic boards, meaning no fixing matches... it will drive him crazy if he pumps someone up and they get knocked out... See Dr. Death in Brawl-For-All or whatever the hell that tough-man competition he did was called. (Although it ended at a Wrestlemania with Butterbean having one of the best knockouts in history of Bart Gunn, maybe only second to Cro Cop knocking out Silva in the recent OWGP)

I'm sure Rob Mac is the happiest person in the world to hear this. Mac is a very good bench player, but he is not a CF, and to his credit he never complained.

What's the deal with the two guys mentioned other than A-Row? I've heard the names as spects, but don't know much about them

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Dec 5, 2006 -> 01:49 PM) According to ESPN 1000 Alex Rodriguez was not discussed last night during the Cashman/Williams talks. It was strickly Sox SP for Yankees RP being talked about. I'd imagine names like Farnsworth and Myers were mentioned when discussing Yankees relievers which makes little sense to me. I'll join you with that statement. Why would the Sox trade a SP for a RP at this point? With Padilla getting 11m a year and Lily looking at around the same, even for one year our starters would be worth more than a Yankee RP.

Seems like Maddux is close to a 2 year deal with San Diego. Heard the Padres and Dodgers mentioned for him, makes sense, he can still be effective in fly-ball friendly parks.

QUOTE(103 mph screwball @ Dec 5, 2006 -> 12:35 PM) Ozuna avoids arbitration and signs a 1 year 800,000 contract per the Score 670 Ozuna is a good bench player, hopefully they stick him in LF a lot in ST so he's an even more valuable bench player

QUOTE(tonyho7476 @ Dec 5, 2006 -> 12:33 PM) I keep forgetting our pitchers status...is Buerhle signed through '07 or '08? pretty sure it is '07, both would be one and done with out extensions... ok here's the edit, I think MB would be done after 07 and Crede still arb eligible until 08

QUOTE(WCSox @ Dec 5, 2006 -> 12:15 PM) Carpenter could've gotten more than that. He's dominated over the past three years, won a Cy Young, pitched lights-out in the WS, won a ring, etc. Methinks that he really wanted to stay in St. Louis and settled for a "hometown discount." Kind of my reaction when I heard the numbers as well. I imagine the union was upset with him, it probably will drag the Zito and Schmidt signings out a little longer

QUOTE(MinnesotaSoxFan @ Dec 4, 2006 -> 11:47 PM) I want to see CT in action. It's been like 5 weeks since they last wrestled on live air. If I recall they are a little green in the ring, they may be hiding them while they get some more training, but using their gimmick to get them over

Courthouse was closed today = no work for me!!

QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Nov 30, 2006 -> 03:47 PM) Dug up some older stuff... http://www.soxtalk.com/forums/index.php?sh...ic=5236&hl=-some solid stuff in there. http://www.soxtalk.com/forums/index.php?sh...pic=252&hl=-This could pretty much end the thread... lol, OK, I guess I was wrong in my earlier post that there was no public bad blood!!

QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Nov 30, 2006 -> 03:24 PM) Did Durham leave on any bad terms? I know it was the trade for Adkins, but was it on bad terms? The reason I ask is even last year I remember seeing Mrs.Durham in the crowd, and remember DJ talking about how they still live here. I don't think any public bad terms. If memory servmes me right, I think his contract was up, Sox were out of contention and they traded him... was it to the A's?

QUOTE(Kid Gleason @ Nov 30, 2006 -> 02:36 PM) As long as the snow hits while I am not driving, I love it. It's just the combo of driving and snowing that sucks. I drive 40 minutes to and from work everyday, and that easily can move into 1 1/2 hour drive with the right conditions. Plus we always go to Minnesota for the holidays and it always seems to storm only when I am driving. I friggin' hate that. But otherwise, sitting inside the house, watching a healthy snowfall with the tree lit (with the train running underneath it), you really can't beat that. Looks like the afternoon rush today will dodge the bullet, but I am setting my alarm early for tomorrow morning.

SI.com has an article up (sorry, didn't copy the link) that basically says MLB will watch closely that no kick backs go from the Lions to the Red Sox. It's one thing to disagree with the posting process, but it is a blind bid, they bid a lot to guarantee the rights, it wouldn't be fair to the Mets (what something like 10m less) who finished second if this happened.

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Nov 29, 2006 -> 12:52 PM) No, they didn't, I'm sort of half-assuming they'll figure something out, if nothign else for a 1 year deal, to see if Weaver can put together a better season. Weaver will be an interesting case. I think he is better waiting until the SP dust settles. Say the Cubs lose out on Schmidt and Zito, and even the next tier like Lily, etc... they will have a ton of money that they are willing to spend. I wouldn't be shocked to see them give him a ridiculous 1-year with an option for a 2nd deal.

Is that $39M US? Because honestly, they pack MSG and Allstate Arena size buildings, and sell a ton of records/DVDs... I thought it would be more than that

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2678901 If this is posted elsewhere, sorry mods!!!

lol, got the "board has too many connection" or whatever the exact message is for a few minutes. Thought I was missing out on something!

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/base...cubs/index.html they updated the article about an hour or so ago, and this may be the same link as above, but basically is saying Hendry denied the 45m number but said they're interested.