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QUOTE(witesoxfan @ Feb 15, 2007 -> 03:59 PM) It is pretty easy to clear room for Clark if you were to really think about it. Take like 2.9 seconds and the answer should come to mind. Dump Dye?

He had every right to say what he did and for what he said he also has every right to take the heat for saying what he did. What he said was wrong, in my opinion, but he was fully entitled to saying it and he's fully entitled to the repercussions that will come from it.

QUOTE(RibbieRubarb @ Feb 15, 2007 -> 11:09 AM) A suagr-coated PC answer does not incite hatred. But note that Hardaway never said the player can't be gay or that he should be killed or that people physically should abuse him. He simply said he couldn't deal with it. Yes he used harsh words but again, I take the truth over a phony lie every day of the week because it lets you know how someone actually feels. But I tend to be a brutally honest person in real life and sometimes that can get me in trouble and luckily my brutally honest doesn't go into the odd point of view that Hardaway's does because I happen to not feel that way.

I still don't get the hate on Lemon. The guy was not a first round pick. Yes, we took him in the first day of the draft but the guy had a million dollar arm and there is nothing wrong with taking guys like that. That is exactly what you do, you are getting a guy that has the potential to be an ace and getting him later on in the draft because he has some flaws. Plenty of draft picks fail, many because they don't have the physical abilities so I have no problem drafting more guys with the physical abilities to be better than average major league stars. Plus when you don't have a top 15 pick in god knows how long and you aren't willing to get a Boras client that falls (which happens in every draft) than you are in a position that the potential high impact arms you draft will take a while to develop but they still are high impact arms and if you have good scouts and good coaching (and I've heard great things about our minor league pitching coaches, specifically Perdew) you can turn them into elite level prospects.

As far as I'm concerned Hardaway was a man. He didn't say what was politically correct, he said how he felt. His feelings aren't right but its better than someone going around lying about it because until that sort of stuff is in the open people won't be able to make adjustments. Lets say every player in the NBA said they would be open to a gay player (not really meaning it) and than a gay player comes in and gets completely torn to shreds by the players and they just act like complete buffoons toward such individual. Now lets say that NBA players spoke there feelings, than you would have a portion feeling the same way Hardaway does and a portion feeling like its no big deal with some being indifferent to the whole damn thing. In this case the NBA knows what is out there and they can take steps to educate the players and try to make adjustments. What Timmy said was wrong and he probably should have just said I don't want to speak on the subject as opposed to giving some phony answer but I'll take his honest opinion over some sugar coded PC answer, whether right or wrong.

Pinned for your viewing pleasure.

Am I the only office fan that doesn't like the UK version?

That was an entertaining show.

From what I know Wilder is a pretty big toolsy guy and I think Kenny is setting the tone that he wants the organization to begine drafting more high impact/high potential arms (and with that higher risk) and seeing if we can start getting some upper echelon prospects. Right now we've had a system that as of late has steadily had guys that are capable of being major league players but it has been a long time since we've had what would be considered "high impact" prospects. I think the right idea is a mix in the middle so that you ensure yourself some depth in the system but at the same time some high impact guys that can really really develop into difference makers at the major league level.

QUOTE(redandwhite @ Feb 14, 2007 -> 11:49 AM) I must've missed this. In my opinion, Serena Williams is one of my top three celebrities I'd want to bang. So hot, want to touch the hiney... This is one area that I completely disagree with you Red.

This thread ROCKS!!!!

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Shoot we have like 4 or 5 offices that are closed. While they are relaxing, I'm continuing yet another 12 hr work day.

I thought we had won the game and than I saw Hinrich going nuts and realized he wasn't celebrating he was pissed at the foul being called.

Taylor & Butch have hit some huge shots for the Badgers, both had some big ones against the Hawkeyes and those two guys are the reason why Tucker is so good because he can and will pass to those guys when he gets the doubles and they both are fully capable of knocking down the big shots.

I will be there over the last weekend of spring training. I won't be in Tuscon for any games as I'll see the Sox play in the Phoenix area two times and than see two non sox games.

QUOTE(kyyle23 @ Feb 13, 2007 -> 01:31 PM) every team uses the same rhetoric. cliche' But Kansas is one of a handful of teams in the country that has the talent to back up such claim. UNC, Florida, UCLA, OSU are the 4 other teams that do. Wisconsin goes down to any of those teams when they play at there absolute best (even if Wiscy does). However, Wiscy does a nice job trying to prevent other teams from having that sort of game and they can grind teams out of there element (and they find a way to win and have some very good wins) which is why they are no doubt a title contender.

QUOTE(Jimbo @ Feb 13, 2007 -> 12:29 PM) haha Self better than Roy...that must have WsoxShuf you were talking with. Jimbo hates Self with an ubridled passion.

QUOTE(longshot7 @ Feb 13, 2007 -> 10:05 AM) saw Letters from Iwo Jima over the weekend. Wow, just a terrific film. Loads better than Flags of our Fathers. Basically a small group of Japanese soldiers are given this suicide mission to defend this tiny island against a zillion Americans, and told that they'll receive no air support, navy support, or reinforcements. Watanabe and the other lead (an unknown) are amazing. It's a little depressing as you realize almost every single character you've met will die, but as the story unfolds, I found myself getting so tense as to when and how. And for the first time, I rooted against the Americans. Definitely Best Picture material. Speaking of which, I watched Flags of our Fathers last night for the first time. I had high expectations for it and ended up being a little dissapointed. Overall it was a solid flick, just didn't meet my expectations. I'll definitely want to check out the version from the Japanese perspective.

What a joke. If you wanted to get rid of him you should have done it earlier when you could have retained Cam Cameron to be your head coach. That said I can see the logic of making the move now, they lost both coordinators so if they were going to make a coaching move now would be as good a time as ever since regardless of whether Marty is the head coach or someone else is your going to need to bring in almost an entire coaching staff (and the best way to do that is to bring in a head coach now and let him bring in his guys) since they screwed in the first place.

QUOTE(fathom @ Feb 12, 2007 -> 12:02 PM) I've been begging the Sox to sign Perez for a while now. He's fantastic against LHP, and he did very well in his brief time in the AL Central last year against the top lefties in the division. He'd be a great guy to have face the likes of Santana, C.C., etc. I just hope he can make the 25 man roster. Great signing! My question is where does he fit on the 25 man roster? He definitely gives us two good Right handed bats off the bench (him and Hall) but the guy can only play first base (IIRC) and we have Thome/Konerko who both can only play first or DH. My question is this, Would we not play Thome against real good lefties and instead go with Perez? I know for the most part I wouldn't simply because Thome is a better player and draws a ton of walks.

I am unclear of where we would play him since we have a couple DH's/1st baseman but Perez is still a pretty darn good hitter against LHPing.

QUOTE(Soxbadger @ Feb 12, 2007 -> 10:41 AM) It doesnt matter, everyone knows that team is the worst Super Bowl team by far. I really cant even think of 1 good player on that team. Atleast the Broncos who got smoked by the Niners had Elway, and the Bills had a few HOF's when they got killed by the Boys. ALthough Denver did take 2 beatings if you count the Redksins too. The Chargers had a terrible super bowl team that one year they got in and took the biggest beating ever from the Niners. I'd like to say 94 but I may be wrong. QUOTE(Milkman delivers @ Feb 12, 2007 -> 11:32 AM) The Bears lost by 12 against a heavily-favored Colts team. Our QB was responsible for 4 turnovers by himself. Nobody can tell me that we couldn't have won that game. I hear people saying we had no chance from the beginning, but that's hot garbage. If our QB doesn't give the ball to the defense FOUR f***ing times, we probably win that game. EDIT: Sorry, he was responsible for 3 turnovers. We recovered the one fumble. But fumbling 2 snaps in one game is laughably terrible. That bulls***, in the beginning of the game the Bears had the opportunity to turn that game into a potential route. We had the early TD, a stupid ass coverage mistake and a couple horrific turnovers (The Rex & Gilmore fumbles were pathetic) while the Benson fumble I give the Colts credit for. Early in that game the Bears had a few chances to give themsleves a very good size lead and at that point we'd have been able to start controlling the situation and would have put Peyton into a much more pass happy offense which is exactly what I would have wanted. The Bears instead failed upon those opportunites (the early fumbles we had forced) by just making absolutely awful turnovers (Grossman & Gilmore's early on).

QUOTE(redandwhite @ Feb 12, 2007 -> 11:42 AM) I think Widger did play third in that game. Wow. Ha. True, he could DH from time to time. In Oakland, after Crede was playing SS and got ejected we ended up going with Dye at SS and Widger at 3rd IIRC.