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Zumaya is good....GASSSS 101 MPH

QUOTE(fathom @ Aug 13, 2006 -> 01:31 PM) Was Ozuna safe? Ya

Damn, just missed it. time for the pen. Its gonna be Ledezma to face AJ

Ledezma and Colon up in the pen.

QUOTE(Greg The Bull Luzinski @ Aug 13, 2006 -> 12:54 PM) I don't disagree. Though I would be hesitant to use "good" and "Freddy" in the same sentence. Paulie That should be it for Miner

Miner is throwing strikes, but he can't be out much longer. Good 2 strike hitter here Paulie...opp field time.

QUOTE(Greg The Bull Luzinski @ Aug 13, 2006 -> 12:52 PM) I can't wait til the post game when we have to hear how good Freddy looked in the game. This is the exact type of start I take from Freddy all year long. He's not the dominant pitcher he once was, he's gave us innings and will try and give us another while keeping the team in the game. Thats all you can ask for out of Freddy at this point, he doesn't have the stuff to go out and WIN games, but he's fully capable of keeping you in games and giving the team a chance to win the game.

Excellent, Freddy stayed away to dead pull Casey (right now he's dead pull) and we got him to try and pull it and it resulted in a weak pop up to CF. By far the best inning of the game by Freddy and my guess is we'll see him out in the 7th, but he'll be on a short hook. He's well under 100 pitches right now.

QUOTE(CYGarland @ Aug 13, 2006 -> 12:49 PM) How many pitches did he throw yesterday? The Sox are going to be very careful with him considering his recent history of arm trouble. Monroe GAWN, 2 down. And he didn't give him anything to pull, way to go Freddy.

Just don't give Monroe a pitch to pull. Thats like throwing a fastball to Jose Valentin (the man that could not hit a curve ball to save his life). Monroe is a dead pull hitter, stay away away away.

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Aug 13, 2006 -> 12:46 PM) If this inning gets to Inge, I hope the bullpen faces him. Why, Inge has helped Freddy twice.

QUOTE(Greg The Bull Luzinski @ Aug 13, 2006 -> 12:44 PM) You are right, let keep stealing when we have not shown we can steal on I Rod all series. The problem here is that we are not so much facing a good pitcher as running ourselves out of innings. Just like if we followed your philosphy Cintron wouldn't have pushed the envelope in the first inning and went for 3rd. Had that happened we wouldn't have scored a run that inning and who knows what could have happened. Dye got picked off, he almost never does, s*** happens. BA running in that situation is text book baseball. If it doesn't work, oh well, you got Pods leading off the inning and thats what you want. Of course they went down 1-2-3 the next inning but oh well.

QUOTE(fathom @ Aug 13, 2006 -> 12:42 PM) I was going to ask you this: the organization doesn't seem pleased with Tim Raines. Might they feel like he's not doing a good job with the runners? I was actually thinking it hurts us that Raines wanted to be on the bench talking to the players more since I think he can give a lot more pointers when it comes to getting good jumps on steals, reading pickoff moves, etc than Baines can.

QUOTE(Greg The Bull Luzinski @ Aug 13, 2006 -> 12:40 PM) You can be aggressive. I prefer to win baseball games. And with your philopshy we'd be s*** up a creek anytime we ran into a good pitcher.

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Aug 13, 2006 -> 12:40 PM) Our whole team seems to really be having some terrible SB technique lately. Up and down the list, no one is getting good jumps. Brian Anderson is better than Jesus. Freddy Garcia got through 5, qualifies for the win, and can be removed if he gets in trouble. Oh btw, I think with Mack in CF that inning this game is now tied. I wonder if any of it has to do with the difference at 1st base (between Baines and Raines).

QUOTE(fathom @ Aug 13, 2006 -> 12:38 PM) I absolutely understand why you try to steal in that situation. However, it's disappointing that Anderson wasn't able to get a better jump in that situation where the pitcher is focusing on the hitter with a 2 strike count. Ummm...the jump was good, I replayed it as well, the problem was it was essentially a pitch out with the ball missing in a spot where Pudge was in golden position to gun him down. The throw was a bit high but the pitch was an easy one for the catcher to handle (especially one with a gun like Pudge has).

QUOTE(Maverick0984 @ Aug 13, 2006 -> 12:37 PM) it's called being agressive, get over it cardinal rules of baseball are 1st out at 3rd and last out at 3rd, other than that, i know of no rule about trying to steal second, he was trying to get him into scoring position. what don't you understand? it was a good idea. At least some of us get the basic concepts of fundemental baseball and when you have your leadoff hitter down 0-2 in the count with 2 outs you send the guy on first if he has any speed to try and give you a shot of a 2 out hit with RISP or you get your leadoff guy a fresh count. Freddy didn't look pretty but two hit to the deepest part of the park where BA gets em and Pudge whiffing on a hanging curve. Now lets get a few more runs.

Jesus, did any of you play fundemental baseball, you run in that situation all day long (especially since BA has good speed).

QUOTE(Reddy @ Aug 13, 2006 -> 12:34 PM) whats the point of trying to steal there? Its real simple...your leadoff hitter is down 0-2 so you send your guy, if he gets into 2nd great, you got a shot, if he doens't, you start the next inning with your leadoff hitter having a fresh count. Any good manager would do that and its a real simple thing in baseball, kind of like running with a full count and 2 outs.

No problem with that cause it means we got the top of the order next inning.

QUOTE(shawnhillegas @ Aug 13, 2006 -> 12:32 PM) hawk hates brandon inge for some reason. Inge has saved Freddy twice today.

QUOTE(maggsmaggs @ Aug 13, 2006 -> 12:26 PM) Rick Hahn (asst. GM) said on the Talking Baseball with Bruce Levine that they would like to add in addition to a third catcher and some more speed of the bench, one or two arms in the bullpen. So, that means Stewart, Owens, Tracey and Boooooonnnneeeee. The thing is I can't see them taking these guys from a Charlotte team that will be in the playoffs for the first time in a long while.

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Aug 13, 2006 -> 12:30 PM) You can't do it every game, but if you have to do it 1 time out of each time through the rotation, and you have a long man in your bullpen, it's tolerable. Last year if we did that, we'd have Viz throw 2 innings, then Cotts, Politte, and Jenks/Hermanson would all pitch, and maybe even Marte also, and our bullpen would be gassed. Mccarthy out there gives you the luxury of taking out a starter every so often if you really need a win, because you can go McCarthy for 3-4 and then Jenks if you have to. We don't use Brandon that way though. It be another if we have done it on a consistent basis. Also note that I don't think Brandon McCarthy is any better than Freddy. He's been way iffy and way inconsistent all season long. I think that has to do with the way Ozzie's managed him, but bottom line is he's not the savior a lot of you seem to think he is (not the way he's pitched this year). And this is coming from one of his biggest supporters.

That wasn't even close, BA SAFE

QUOTE(fathom @ Aug 13, 2006 -> 12:29 PM) We have a bullpen that should have everyone available besides MacDougal. This is one of the biggest games for the Sox all season, as it would rejuvenate them in regards to the AL Central. Show me a manager using his relievers in the 4th inning on a consistent basis and I show you a team thats gonna suck ass and lose way more games than it wins. Its one thing if we are getting shelled or if we had an off-day or if Freddy doesn't have a history of actually sucking for 3 innings than putting it together for 2 innings. Infield hit for BA or an error