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QUOTE(kdhargo @ Aug 4, 2005 -> 05:11 AM) I know it is in retrospect looking back now at the 2000 draft, but after looking at the draft a bit, I had a question pop up that I thought I would ask this knowledge board. The Sox took Borchard at #12 in 2000, with the Phillies taking Utley at #15. We now know today that Utley is the more 'established' MLB-level player, but even w/o such hindsight, why is it that the Sox chose to take Borchard with this pick and not someone like Utley? Utley had better numbers across the board, including power numbers, and he was/is an IF, with Borchard as an OF. So, my question is simple: why did they choose what they did? Wouldn't one have thought that equally (and a bit better) power and average numbers coming from the IF position (Utley) would be more coveted and rarer than from an OF position (Borchard)? Were the Sox that in love with Borchard? When the Sox took Borchard, I think most experts and analysts thought it was a stellar pick. Had he been willing to sign for a reasonable amount (he got a record signing bonus at the time), he'd of been a top 5 selection. Following his first year (he dominates in Bham as well) he was pretty much on the board as one of the 5 best prospects in all of baseball. Borchard had some injuries after that and was never able to make adjustments to his swing, but I don't think there is any reason to say Utley would of been a better pick at that time. Borchard had a great arm, tons of power, and plus speed. He's a great athlete and at that time looked like a tremendous selection.

He's kind of stuck between a rock and a hard place since Rogo is gonna get all the AB's in Bham and ranks higher on the prospect todem poll. With Gload in Charlotte, Rogo doesn't really have a spot to go right now (Sox are taking things slow with him). Daigle is basically an organizational guy, although I'm sure he's opened some eyes this year.

Brandon McCarthy Finds His Groove By Jason Gage August 3, 2005 FutureSox.com Undoubtedly Brandon McCarthy’s name came up quite often in trade discussions these past couple weeks, but no major deal was made and the Sox best prospect will remain in the organization. Despite hearing his name tied to rumors, McCarthy has gone on his best run since spring training. It is also a sign that McCarthy has made the necessary adjustments to go back to pitching the way he has in the past...MORE

QUOTE(Dam8610 @ Aug 3, 2005 -> 04:38 PM) Great article. It definitely explains why he wasn't throwing the change. I do have one problem with that article though. it says that he's 4-7 overall while going 2-0 over his last 4 starts. The problem is that he can't be 4-7 and 2-0 over his last 4 starts, because he was 3-7 at Charlotte before being called up the 2nd time. You beat me to it. Thats a version I have thats up on the site, but is for the most part hidden. I updated his day to day stats with last nights start, but still have to update his season stats. Also have a tad bit of changes to make to the piece. On a sidenote, thanks

Thanks for your guys questions. Were going to mix some of them in with last years questions and a few things we came up with to add. Were gonna begin work on the feature tonight and hopefully in a week the responses will be up. Also, were always open to feedback from this sense, if people want to know about a prospect and want to know a good amount about them, ask us and we'll probably write up a story on it cause if one person is interested, usually a few more people would be interested in that player as well.

QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Aug 3, 2005 -> 03:56 PM) I realize much of Levine's job is to report what he hears, but didn't he basically say on Friday (before the deadline) that the Sox and Cubs would make any moves? He was sort of right... except for, you know, the Sox trading for Blum, and the Cubs trading for Lawton. I think he said those things on Sunday. He was right on the Sox part, but wrong on the Cubs part.

QUOTE(ceffa2000 @ Aug 3, 2005 -> 03:53 PM) Any credence to Levine saying that Griffey wouldn't accept a trade to the White Sox? Bruce mentioned that Griffey only has 4 teams in his contract and, while he respects the WS org., he wouldn't want to go to us since his house is in Orlando and we train in Tuscon. Apparently Bruce has sources in the Reds org. I thought I read earlier that Griffey WOULD accept to go to the White Sox. I can't imagine why not since he would finally have a chance to play for a WS ring. Sorry to extend the misery of this thread. Interesting. The story said that Griffey told his friends that he would accept a deal to the White Sox. However, it would make some sense that he'd like to go to a team that would train on the east coast. However, the question is how badly does he want to leave his home town. I've heard some say he's pretty happy there, but at the same time, he probably is dying to get onto a winning team and over the past few years I think the Sox have shown most of the baseball world that they are committed to doing what it takes to win. Hopefully this year it finally pays off.

QUOTE(nitetrain8601 @ Aug 3, 2005 -> 03:39 PM) Kenny Williams actually ended this thread. They asked if a deal still could be done(waiver wire) and he said no or his exact words, "not at this juncture." PK seems happy. Not at this juncture is a lot different than no. That could simply mean, that he hasn't cleared waivers yet so obviously its not going to happen. I'd think if he clears waivers, the Sox and Reds would once again talk. If they reached a deal once than Kenny will try again and hope that the Reds GM to convince management. Plus, we all know Kenny is the type of GM who gets his mind set on a guy or two and will continue doing all he can to work a move out. I think for the most part its a good thing. Thats not to say he doesn't have other plans, but he seems to prioritize things and if its a guy that he thinks is a best option, he'll work his total butt of to do all he can to make a deal happen. On a sidenote, when and where did Kenny say that quote?

QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Aug 3, 2005 -> 03:31 PM) Kap, you hearing anything on 'bulin? A Canadian radio station had Pang on, and he said that Tallon told him Khabi to the 'Hawks was 90%. Apparantly, he wants to play for an O-6 team. I'd be thrilled with this pickup. Still, they need to pick up a good forward/center. Modano would be nice, only thing I wonder is how much it will hurt them to go 4 yrs. Plus from the sounds of his agent, it appears some team offered a 5 yr 5 mill deal.

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Aug 3, 2005 -> 03:05 PM) Want some company? Another Sox fan is always welcome

QUOTE(South Side Fireworks Man @ Aug 3, 2005 -> 02:35 PM) Let's say a guy like Griffey is put on waivers and nobody claims him but the Sox. Now the Sox & Reds agree on a trade involving Young, Rogowski and a fringe prospect. Wouldn't Young, Rogowski and the prospect also have to clear waivers before they can be traded to the Reds? Rogowski would...therefor he's no longer on the board cause he's currently on the club's 40 man roster. However, they could have interest in Honel. Problem is, now isn't a good time to trade Kris, since his value is currently as low as it will be. I think after he kicks butt for the remainder of the season, than his trade value will be back up at least somewhat.

Plus, when I Think of Griffey, I just think of the way he played the game. He always has a smile on his face. During BP with the hat backwards. He's one of those guys that always has a smile and made the game look so easy. Such a sweet swing too. Also, if you look, every month this season he's gotten better in every major category. Had a slow April (understandable and is just rolling). He's getting to the point where he's the same player (offensively) that he once was. Plus at 35, he could still have a few more good years left. He definately makes the club a whole lot better and thats the key.

QUOTE(Palehosefan @ Aug 3, 2005 -> 02:39 PM) I just wanted to take this chance to say, f*** YOU SONNY VACARO. Ok, I feel much better now :-). Doesn't have much to do with the deal other than him being the pres of Adidas, but I just hate the man. He's a complete slimeball. He is a great interview though. Knows a ton about the sport of basketball and some would say he's ruined the sport a good amount as well.

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Aug 2, 2005 -> 08:22 PM) If the A's do end up with Home Field Advantage, which is highly unlikely then the playoff matchups could work out like this: Boston @ Oakland Anaheim @ White Sox I'd peronally rather face the A's in the playoffs. If we can't beat them in the playoffs, then we don't deserve to be there in the first place. If Anaheim wins the West: Boston/Anaheim @ Anaheim/Boston Oakland @ White Sox I've got it all planned out. Angels or A's vs Sox Boston vs Angels or A's (whoever is the division winner of the West) 2nd round (hopefully) Sox vs Angels or A's (whoever beats Boston). Than the 1st two rounds are on the west coast (I'll have tix to every game in Anaheim and have a friend who lives up in Oakland, plus playoff tix are easy to get for the A's). So basically I can help break the west coast slump and than I fly out to Chitown to see at least one world series game Hey, it could happen.

QUOTE(sircaffey @ Aug 3, 2005 -> 02:17 PM) If Frank is done with the White Sox, KGJ would be a stellar replacement in terms of marketability. Griffey is an attraction... A healthy Griffey is 1000 times more marketable than Frank. Frank was amazing in his hay-day, but if Griffey gets rolling again (and it looks like he is and gets back in a major market)....he will once again be one of the more marketable players in all of baseball. Frank was never really that. He was pretty damn amazing in the 90's, but marketablity wise (aside from Big Hurt Baseball the video game) he doesn't even come close to KGJ. Also as far as Young goes, right now I think if you asked a team who they'd want of all the Sox ofer's, Chris Young would be #1 on most of those list. A team couldn't go wrong with any of them (I think all 3 have the chance to be very good players), but Young has the best chance to be a special player (I think next on that list would be Sweeney, simply because he has such a sweet stroke and its so low maintenance).

QUOTE(nitetrain8601 @ Aug 3, 2005 -> 01:54 PM) 1)You seem wayyyyyyyyyy to caught up on any prospect. If the White Sox gave up their worst prospect in the system, you would say it was a bad move. I was kind of hoping Brandon McCarthy flat out was cut just so we wouldn't have to hear you make several threads about not trading him. We're trying to win now. This is arguably our best year in franchise history. Wen that's the case, you have to go for it. 2)Young is not touted more than Sweeney or Anderson. He's a very good prospect, but we have OF depth in the organization. Is Young going to help us win the World Series this year? No. Is he even going to help us next year? No. That's why you do the move. 3)Griffey would be playing DH most of the time with some stints in CF. Ozzie isn't that stupid and neither is Kenny. And Griffey is a way better hitter than Everett. He's less streaky and he also could hit from the left side which sadly Everett can't. 4)Who would you have more confidence in at the plate in the playoffs for getting a key hit. Griffey or Everett?? I'd certainly take Griffey any day. 5)Cincy would pay 4.5 million a year until his contract is up. We'd take care of the deferred part which is only about 4 million. 4 million usually isn't the difference between making the playoffs or not. I wouldn't care about the deferred part. I'm sure JR and the ownership doesn't mind that either. Almost all great hitters have deferred cash. Manny, Vlad Griffey. Even A-Rod had that before he got traded to NY. Deferred cash isn't a problem. Upside wise, Young has more than any OFer in the Sox system and almost every other system for that matter. Not saying I wouldn't make the trade though cause I think a healthy Griffey makes this team a whole lot stronger.

QUOTE(kapkomet @ Aug 3, 2005 -> 01:42 PM) They would need one more standup defenseman, IMO. I'd agree with that. I think the big problem with the Hawks for a long while was they didn't have the good defenseman. At least when I would watch (and I'm not expert), but you'd see them get killed in TOP which isn't necessarily all defense, but it starts with the defense and than you need players who are can control the puck and pass. Still, I think the Hawks have like 19 mill in cap. Now they obviously won't cap themselves out, but they could realistically spend like 12-14 mill more, putting them in the 33-35 mill range. So if they go max with Habi and it seems thats the case...7.8 mill and than 5 mill for Modano, they definately have enough to grab one or two guys, but obviously not big name players (who, don't ask me, I'm not good enough to know that sort of stuff). They'd definately be pushing it though, especially since I think I read a few of you say the Hawks could use a couple more forward/wing players.

QUOTE(Mr. Showtime @ Aug 3, 2005 -> 11:55 AM) Boston signed Leech. Talk is the Hawks and Boston have 4 year deals on the table worth 20 million. Would the Hawks have enough for Modano and Havi?

QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Aug 3, 2005 -> 11:54 AM) Rumor has it that Center Ice might be free this season. Might. And SF1, WTF are you talking about. Kovalev? Yeah, that's exactly what we need, more soft players to play around Ruutu and (later) Bolland. Good "leadership", huh? :rolly If so, omg, they may just win me into hockey. I'd be catching Hawks games for a full season (Hell I'd see more games than you locals, lol).

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Aug 3, 2005 -> 12:24 PM) I actually had an idea if there were going to be a bunch of people for a tailgate. We could get there early and see if we can get a softball game together at Armour park. It could be something fun to do annually as a Soxtalk gathering. Thoughts? Since its a really early start, maybe we could even get something together for after the game. I'm game for it at any time though.

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Aug 3, 2005 -> 12:07 PM) How has BMac's changeup been looking lately (for anyone who's seen him)? That was the pitch he was missing when he was in the big leagues earlier this year. Is there talk yet about having him work on a cutter in the offseason? I got a piece due up tonight. Its all edited, just have some tidbits to add in regards to his changeup (there was a reason he wasn't throwing it for a bit) as well as a new pitch he's throwing.

I sure hope so. I'll sign autographs for everyone...prices start at 5 bucks for mine or 5 bucks for Mike's, but for 7.50 you could get both of ours

QUOTE(AddisonStSox @ Aug 3, 2005 -> 10:55 AM) Did I miss something? A lot of stuff was strategically deleted. EDIT: Methinks someone is trying to save serious face. I cleared all the crap out.

QUOTE(Steff @ Aug 3, 2005 -> 10:49 AM) You got that right... "Watch out!!!!... Oh s***.. I think I just hit the car... " Whoa...Whoa...Whoa That was Mike

QUOTE(Randar68 @ Aug 3, 2005 -> 10:49 AM) Sure, shoot me an e-mail. You still have my address? Alright will do. I'll send it in a day or two (were still finishing up the questions and stuff).