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QUOTE(Soxbadger @ Jan 18, 2005 -> 10:34 AM) This is where agents like Boras off miss the boat. Weaver's first contract, they are asking for 11mil for what 5-6 years he will be under contract from the team? If Weaver is the next Prior, then you would want him to play as soon as possible so that he can hit free agency earlier, where the real money is. Weaver could go into the draft again, and have this same scenario occur. I mean at that point he would be out almost $4mil. Also, after missing a full season, his stock will start to drop, so whatever he originally might have gotten will go down. I really do not see how it can be in the players best interest to turn down millions and lose an entire year of growth. SB I should add that Weaver has not registered for his classes at Long Beach State which means he will not be able to pitch for them next year, unless of course he's still planning on registering. This is a big mistake by him and his agent. I think at this point they should fold to the pressure, get the 7 or 8 mill guaranteed the Angels are likely offering and then as Badger mentioned if he is so good, he'll hit free agency a year quicker and make up that couple mill difference. I think the Angels plan on playing some serious hardball. Right now its not really a big deal to them or Weaver since he wasn't expected to pitch shortseason after the heavy workload he had in college. But if he's not ready by the start of the season I think you'll see the Angels pretty much say fine, you can't go to college so sit around a year without pitching and see your stock drop. Just think of that knucklehead who kept holding out and holding out and went from being a 3rd overall selection (harrington I think was his name) to not even being a top 5 round selection. Hell, I forget where he went this past year but it was pretty bad considering.

QUOTE(JimH @ Jan 18, 2005 -> 11:34 AM) Jason, minor league invite does not count vs. the 40 man. Ya, but if he was designated for assignment, then you must place him on the 40 man roster, just like the Sox did when they grabbed Bobby Jenks.

QUOTE(aboz56 @ Jan 18, 2005 -> 02:01 PM) I can't wait to see the Soxtalk community's reaction to our fresh nugs. They will start to worship us like the gods we are

QUOTE(aboz56 @ Jan 18, 2005 -> 12:24 PM) I would pay to fire the entire management staff at Connie's Pizza. Jesus, 3 hours later we finally get some food. Thats after server Gage grabs the menus to seat ourselves

QUOTE(Steff @ Jan 18, 2005 -> 10:13 AM) Soxfest is like the locker room... what happens there, stays there. I knew there were some questions on whether or not you were to be trusted. Or its like Vegas....If the pics go up, I'm guessing we'll have a funeral to attend and an admin position open

This is great news. Everything said at Soxfest by both Kenny and Posednik seemed to indicate that Luis has damn good stuff.

QUOTE(Cali @ Jan 17, 2005 -> 12:08 PM) I just noticed your Location that's f***ing great. All those letters I wrote to Arte Moreno about how I don't like Orange County really paid off. Dammit I just realized I spelled "Official" wrong in the title. Could someone be so kind as to change that? Don't worry though, I won't let out your secret...aka that the OC is your favorite show on Telivision On a sidenote, I talked to Hangar at Fest this past weekend. He said he's getting things set up way in advance for San Diego when the Sox come into town. Should be a real blast.

QUOTE(aboz56 @ Jan 18, 2005 -> 10:01 AM) So what exactly should I tell Matt to do to claim the tickets? Have him email whoever sent him the message and say they aren't in town and if they can claim the tickets via email.

QUOTE(aboz56 @ Jan 18, 2005 -> 10:05 AM) Hopefully I'll get some of the pictures we took at the Fest up later this weekend. You can look forward to me and Gage photographed with many of the "fresh nugs" from Chicago, including the Pepsi Girls, the Chicago Bandit girls and other female Sox fans. And of course, pictures of the activities as well. Nice Nice

QUOTE(whitesoxwilkes @ Jan 17, 2005 -> 07:06 PM) I never post here, but just wanted to say Jason, Mark and Brian...great meeting you all! Mike and Steff, pleasure as always. My ass is still creased from sitting on the doorhandle of my poor little car. -Wilkes Addendum: damn my member number is low! Hey Wilkes It was great meeting you do. The whole weekend was a real blast

I never heard anything along those lines. I wish him the best.

Its too soon to predict soemthing along those lines. However, if I were to guess Rogo is most likely going to become trade fodder, especially once Konerko signs an extension to stay with the Sox the next few years. I'd also like to say Rogo's likely going to project as a LF/1st baseman which will give him a little more flexibility. I am a Rogo fan so I think he has a nice swing, good speed (for a big man) and is a great defensive 1st baseman. I've seen him play too little outfield to make a judgement on his defense, especially since the only time I saw him play outfield was right when he started to this past season. If he does continue to show more power development though, it could force the issue. First you got to see what he does in Bham though. Thats going to be the true test.

Everything I'm reading seems to indicate the Angels and Weaver are far apart. He's talking 10-11 mill and Boras is comparing him to PRior and the Angels are pretty much laughing. Also was going to point out the Mets finally came to terms with Humber from Rice. He'll get 4.12 guaranteed and could get as much as a little over 5 mill over his 5 year major league contract. I don't know about anyone else, but I'm not much of a fan of these major league contracts cause it really seems to hurt the chances of a players development rather then help it. Just think of whats happened to Willy Mo Pena because of it. Instead of him getting plenty of ab's in the minors for a year or two, he was in the majors overwhelmed (for at least part of it) getting a lack of at bats as well as development. While the intent is to get you to the majors faster, I think it hurts the chances of a player sticking in the majors.

QUOTE(aboz56 @ Jan 18, 2005 -> 08:25 AM) My buddy Matt won as well. He is going to call up there and see what they can do because obviously we are not in the area to be able to go to the box office. Nice, we told you guys we'd be winners

QUOTE(JimH @ Jan 18, 2005 -> 08:11 AM) Sox roster is full I believe, so anyone they'd add would have to be on a minor league deal or someone would be waived. The other interesting name out there for a minor league invite is Roberto Hernandez, they may be interested in seeing what he's got left, if anything. Doesn't seem to be any room in the bullpen but Hernandez is definitely a guy Ozzie knows. No clue as to whether RH would accept a minor league deal at this point. For me the key factor is infield depth and starting pitching depth. Jim, I think the idea behind it is a good one, however with the Sox 40 man roster in the situation it is, I just can't see them picking up a guy soley for corporate sponsorship reasons. I'm not too familiar with Daigle. I can't remember if I had heard his name before because I have read or heard someone say that he's a solid prospect or if its soley because her going out with Jennie Finch. However, the Sox still have at least one more guy to designate for assignment for the infielder they bring in and I think that seems to be a difficult enough task.

QUOTE(IlliniKrush @ Jan 17, 2005 -> 04:49 PM) Oh man, Steff's headband...i'm not going to say a word, just sit here and laugh. I'm sure steff is trying to delete all copies of those pictures

I'll have to catch a replay of that.

That had to be the craziest story I've ever read. I can't believe that it could possibly be true, but you never know. Entertaining none the less.

They need to respect your stuff and pay there portion of the bills. And note, if they snore and your sharing a room, they need to learn not to snore, lol.

QUOTE(IlliniKrush @ Jan 17, 2005 -> 02:01 PM) For those of you that think saturday's game somehow proves Illinois will lose a few games this year...what a "great prediction" Still rolling, so everyone can keep talking and being unimpressed. Amuse yourselves i guess. Just remember what I told you will happen to the Illini on Thursday

QUOTE(Manrique's Mustache @ Jan 17, 2005 -> 02:32 PM) Speaking at a fan seminar Saturday at SoxFest at the Hyatt Regency, Guillen sounded set on a lineup of Podsednik leading off, followed by shortstop Juan Uribe, right fielder Jermaine Dye, first baseman Paul Konerko, designated hitter Carl Everett, Rowand, catcher A.J. Pierzynski, third baseman Joe Crede and second baseman Willie Harris. This line-up seems a bit off to me. I don't see how Rowand is not batting second. He deserves the shot for more AB's after last year hitting over .300. He should be swaped with Uribe. First off welcome aboard. Secondly, I think this lineup is relatively accurate simply because the White Sox want to move Rowand into a more production oriented position and having him hitting 6th is simply a benefit of the fact that this lineup has that type of ability. However, I think Rowands future spot will be the 3 hole, but I think the Sox want to give Ozzie some more time to develop into that spot. I do think that if Juan struggles, you'll quickly see Rowand back in the two hole. But the offseason is not done, so we shall see. The thing that really upset me was Rowand being rumored to be the left fielder and not the centerfielder.

I think the Sox are gonna wait and see what PK does early in the season, but I wouldn't be surprised to see PK sign an extension that keeps him here another 3 or 4 years.

Ross...mega props go out to ya. And idea I have and am going to throw around eventually is setting up some sort of charity auction with help from the White Sox or something. But I figure I'll have to wait till the site grows a bit more, but its an idea I have in my head and will do at some point.

I pinned this post. Get Well Jerry.

QUOTE(IlliniKrush @ Jan 17, 2005 -> 02:28 PM) However, at least i didn't spill half a drink on myself at the bar. That honor would go to the one and only Jason. That same night (Saturday), some of us had an epic breakfast at 4am while jamming into a Civic. What made it worse was it was the first drink of the night.