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I liked Surprise stadium, but your right all the parks are pretty nice. However, Hi Corbett is pretty much garbage in my book. My colleges baseball stadium is nicer, imo. And I'm not much of a fan of Oaklands digs, although they did renovate it. The Giants park in Scottsdale is pretty sweet. Wasn't their a rumor a while back that siad the Sox could also look to moving their somehow? I still think JR wants to move the team into the Phoenix area.

Welcome aboard Tree. The stadium is really nice. The only thing that sucks in my book is that its in the Tuscon area instead of the greater Phoenix area. I was really hoping they would move down to Tempe because thats where my dad and I stay every year when we go out to Spring Training. Location aside, they got a tremendous facility and attachd to it is a very nice complex for the minor league players.

*Shakes Fist*

I was flipping through the channels and started doing some homework and I realized Gilmore Girls was on the tv. God is that the lamest show I've ever seen. Hell, I should kick my own ass for watching 15 minutes of it, god, who the hell talks this lame and how did this show win some award???? Anway, end rant. Anyone else got some shows that they just think are flat garbage?

I'm sure I'd look really retarded on at least a few trades. But if I ever re-acquired Carl Everett in my tenure as GM, you guys should be scared, since he'd probably be in his 40's or 50's I like playing sofa gm though, its a lot easier. You don't have people screaming down your neck. I can't even imagine how hard it is to be a GM and to come up with plans, knowing that your plans really may not work out since you can't just make trade after trade rigth away, they are things that are build out of relationships and plenty of hours on the phone (Doesn't that sound like something else???).

Ehhh, the grammar police and the Tommy John police are getting me tonight, lol.

To be honest, I haven't really been one of the people thats all that big on Hairston. But since he's on the block and the Sox could use a leadoff hitter, I figure the name will come up plenty more. Just like the names of the Big3 and RJ will come up, although the Sox have actually been said to be interested in them in the papers. I have not seen anything saying they are interested in Hairston anytime recently.

Well that be another story, lol. Two for two tonight on that. First Williamson, now this, lol.

Gordon seems to be a good dribbler, but I really like Deng. He obviously has to work on his shot, but he does so many things well and plays really hard. He's a definate keeper. I think Gordon is a shorter version of Jamal Crawford. Sure settles for a boatload of jumpers.

The big thing is, if the Bulls pull down a deal like this, they will have quite a bit of free agent room next year. Two years from now they are slotted to have money to offer a max contract via free agency. I think Eddy is going to have to play quite well if he plans on getting a big offer from the Bulls. Otherwise, I suspect him going the route of a sign and trade. I think the same could happen to Chandler. I wouldn't do that proposed deal for Curry though, although I do think Joe Johnson is a solid player. The only thing is, I'd be worried about what the Bulls could do in the low post. However if the Clips wanted to deal Chris Wilcox to the Bulls for Curry or maybe Melvin Ely and a pick from the Bobcats, I'd be listening

I'll add the Rockmeister Rocky Biddle to this list since he was cut. I'm implying it to be a minor league contract with a shot at one of the back end bullpen spots. Two years ago he was solid and he was always well liked by the fans.

The Dodgers want to then move Sosa to Colorado for Charles Johnson (horrible contract, terrible player) and Shawn Chacon (bad contract, possibly a solid pitcher) so ya, I think they would. It appears they want Green's contract off their books. 16 million is a lot and the Dodgers have some key free agents. They also are trying to sign Varitek, plus their in hous eguys like Beltre and Gagne. They are also loosing Nomo and Perez plus maybe another starter so they will have some voids to fill their. The Dodgers could definately use the financial flexibility and if taking on one bad contract (everett's, just a 1 yr deal) and giving them a backup catcher as well as sending cash the Sox way would get them rid of Green, I think they'd do it. I don't know if the Sox would. Its kind of like the Cubs, they would be lucky to get much value for Sosa. Sosa's contract is absolutely awful. Its probably the worse in baseball because he isn't Alex Rodriguez. Rodriguez, while having a bad contract, performs on the field and does all the little things while also being a great guy.

I still assume that the Dbacks are gonna offer him arbitration regardless. He'll likely get a semi pay cut through arbitration and the Dbacks have to know he's gonna get a pretty good offer somewhere (if not from them) and they'll get two picks.

Yes, soley because over his entire career minus one season Konerko has not only been a good slugger but a good hitter. He's never been selfish and does whatever it takes for the team. Gload, while a good hitter this past year, doens't have the history of success in the major league level that gload has. However, I think Gload could turn out to be a pretty good player. Not great, but a good role player.

No, because I think in baseball you can't go on the assumption of "if" for a position as key as right field. The only reason I see right field as "key" persay is because its typically a production oriented position. Plus at Everett's age it would be too much of an assumption to assume health. The same can be said about Thomas. It isn't really the age of both, but more so their injury riddled past. Injuries add up, especially when you get up their in age (like both of them are in baseball terms) and they will only effect them more and more. If the Sox enter the start of this year with Everett projected in RF, I'm going to puke.

I'm of the approach that more good players are out on the market then usual and if the Sox can find ways to clear financial money to build a better pitching staff, then I think it would be better. I see Contreras as a major potential liability. I'd take Garland over Contreras any day of the week. If somehow the opportunity appeared, I'd dump Contreras so quick (but no one would just take his contract without giving up some contract in exchange. Alright, here's an option: - Sox deal Contreras for Jose Guillen (I really don't know if the angels would do this because of the payroll rammifactions) - Sox Sign Omar Vizquel - Sox deal Paul Konerko, Felix Diaz, and Mike Spidale to Oakland for Tim Hudson - Sox Sign Paul Wilson or Esteban Loaiza to a 1 yr 3 mill deal. - Sox Sign Troy Percival to a 4 mill deal with 2 mill in incentives (w/option year at 5 mill) Lineup: Willie Harris - 350 Omar Vizquel - 4 Carlos Lee - 8 Frank Thomas - 8 Jose Guillen - 4 Ross Gload - 500 Aaron Rowand - 1.2 Joe Crede - 750 Ben Davis - 1 Obviously the catching position isn't quite what you would want it. Total Payroll (including Everett) 33 mill. Rough estimate of course (did some rounding in my head) Pitching Staff Tim Hudson - 6 Mark Buehrle - 5 Freddy Garcia - 8 Jon Garland - 4 Paul Wilson/Elo - 3 Rotation - 26 mill Bullpen Percy - 5 mill Shingo - 2.5 Politte - 1.25 Marte - 1.25 Cotts - 500 K Adkins - 500 K Minor Leaguer - 350 11.5 (rough estimates) Total Payroll (not including bench players other then Everett) is 70.5 million. Of course this leaves the Sox with some options to actually spend a little more and maybe find a leadoff hitter via the trade front. Personally I don't think that would be too bad of a team. The lineup would be really nice if it had a leadoff hitter, but you still can't complain about a middle of the lineup with Lee/Thomas/Guillen and then Gload and Rowand just outside of that. If the Sox wanted to they could ear tag some cash and find an upgrade at catcher leaving 2nd and 3rd as the two questionmarks and I think Crede/Uribe/Harris (two of the three) should turn out just fine. I like all three.

With the latest rumors (I know, their just rumors) it would at least appear the Sox are more likely to shop Konerko over Lee. If thats the case then it means Everett would have to play RF and as far as I'm concerned that isn't an option. I realize the Sox will need him to DH for possibly a month until Thomas comes back, but you could find a much more affordable part time DH, imo.

Me, I've came to the foregone conclusion that I'd like to see the Sox move Everett and Contreras. I think both of their contracts suck and if the Sox could somehow get a player that maybe another team doesn't want and free up some finances possibly then it could be a wise thing to do.

What if the Sox offer up Jose Contreras in a deal. I know some people like him, but I consider him to have a "bad" contract and if you could get an effective player while freeing up some salary to land yourself one front line pitcher and then another FA starter then I think you'd have to look into that option. Could the Angels consider a Guillen for Contreras swap considering how they could definately use another starter. Or would the Orioles consider giving the Sox Julio and Hairston for Contreras, knowing that Baltimore could use pitching? I know the Sox won't do it, cause they seem to be in love with Contreras but Jose did nothing with the sox that he didn't do in New York. And that was show that he is an inconsistent pitcher. He's know different then Jon Garland except he gets paid more and is signed long term, plus he's on the wrong side of 30.

In 2004: 128 strikeouts. This was a little higher then his typical season, but he averages over 100 k's a year. Of course prior to his injury he had a couple high OBP years. Does anyone know if he's still quick or did he lose a lot of speed from his injury as well? I'm also assuming he still has a strong arm. I think Dye could probably be had for 2-4 mill with some incentives (heavier incentives if he gets 2 mill).

Alright, I've been thinking. Its no secret the Dodgers are trying to dump Shawn Green and to see they consider taking on CJ and Chacon in exchange for him, you'd have to think another team could get involved without giving up much in return. So I ask, what if the Sox offer Carl Everett and Ben Davis (he can compete for their starting job) for Shawn Green and cash. Make it work out to where the Sox pay roughly 7-8 million for Green. Green plays a good right field (although he wasn't as good as usual out their this year) and would provide a left handed bat in the middle of this lineup. The Sox still have the option of moving one of Konerko or Lee, while still having a bat and clearing a contract. I don't know if the Dodgers would do this deal, but its a hell of a lot better proposition then CJ/Chacon or Sammy Sosa and his albatross of a contract. Plus Green's numbers should drastically improve moving from Chavez Ravine to US Cell. He's also a tremendous clubhouse guy and is healthy. Plus lets remember what he last did when he had some serious protection around him in the lineup (although this year he did have Adrian Beltre). 2004: .266 AVG, 28 HR, 86 RBi, .352 OBP, .811 OPS

Ya, I think it further proves the fact that this writer is a fool and that their editor got caught being lazy. I mean the Williamson thing is pretty much useless with him out for the year (basically me reading between the line, tells me that most of us here know more about the Sox then this writer).

I think we can all pretty much write Pavano off, but it doens't hurt to at least inquire about him. Maybe he has this fascination for Chicago and we just don't hear it. Trust me, I think the media just knows Boston and NY are going to be involved so they just imply things and a player would be stupid not to say they wouldn't be interested cause both teams have deep pockets. The player is thinking like a GM is, when you try to get the Yanks or BoSox interested in one of your players on the block because when one is interested the other gets involved and bids the price up. However, I want Matt Clement if healthy and if the Sox are not going to trade for one of Zito, Mulder, Hudson, RJ. Their are other options like Pineiro, Jerome Williams, but those options should only be explored if the Sox are going to go another option and upgrade the offense and deepen the bullpen.

I must of missed that. I knew he was supposed to pitch right at teh end of the season with the Red Sox. Thanks for that update qwert. That really sucks, but it really makes that Daily Herald article look stupid, unless of course Kenny is thinking two years from now when he could potentially have Williamson at a very good value (personally it be one of the rare times where Kenny ever showed any foresight, because he seems like one of those one year at a time guys).

I think Mulder has been recently on record as implying that he's still a White Sox fan. Personally I think Hudson or Mulder would be the best fits, but if Zito is the one being dangled I'd take him. This was one bad year and he's just 26 and signed an extra year at an affordable rate. Its the type of contract the Sox could easily take while still having money to spend in other areas. If the A's were really interested in Konerko then send him and cash as well as a good prospect (i'd be willing to give up one of our big 3 prospects for one of the A's big 3 if necessary). I think those pitchers are all fantastic and would be well worth it. However a Konerko package for Hudson could very well be possible the more I think about it. I think all of us under-rate Konerko's value. I would make the deal nd I know that. What I do know is this, given the option of Hudson or Johnson I'd take the Unit. However, thats thinking just one season and not assuming what we give up. But I'd take a rotation of Hudson, Buehrle, Garcia, Contreras, Garland over one of RJ, Buehrle, Garcia, Contreras, Diaz. If Hudson pays off then the Sox would obviously at least attempt to resign him. I just don't see why Oakland would take Konerko when they have Durazo and Hatty in the 1b/Dh spot. But if they wanted Konerko or Lee I'd do the deal. The Sox could then go for someone like Jermaine Dye, who I'm really starting to like the idea of. He'd put up pretty damn good numbers at teh Cell if healthy and would be a nice short-term gap until Anderson/Sweeney are ready. Of course it also be nice to dump Everett somewhere.