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QUOTE(FlaSoxxJim @ Mar 2, 2006 -> 01:42 AM) Plenty of fault to go around, yes. But focusing on this current revelation for a moment. . . GWB was fully briefed on the possibility of the levees being breached and New Orleans flooding, even as as the storm approached. Yet he said straight-faced a week later "I don't think anybody anticipated the breach of the levees." Well, obviously somebody - los of credentialed expert somebodys - did anticipate it. And they told Bush. And afterwards when the s*** hit the fan he publicly states that the levee failures were completely unforseen. 'I don't think anybody could have forseen that terrorists would hijack a plane and fly it into our buildings. . . ' Wrong. Such and attack was envisioned and spelled out for the President in the August 2001 PDB. 'I don't think anybody could have conceived that we wouldn't find WMDs in Iraq. . . ' Wrong. Inspectors were coming to that precise conclusion when they were stopped from doing their jobb in the runup to the war. 'I don't think anybody could have forseen. . . : . . . the extent of the Iraqi insurgency. . . . . . the possibility of secttarian violence in a post-Saddam Iraq. . . Do you see a pattern here? And in every case, not only did people forsee these things but they shared their findings and insights with the administration, despite their predictable litany of claims to the contrary. On the point of the levees, it's only been predicted for what, 30 years, if a CAT 5 hit N.O. the levees would fail. Well, it missed by one Cat. Big deal. There was no place for the water to go, and maybe they were surprised it was THIS storm that did it, but HELLOOOOO, again, it's only been talked about for 30 years. Flaxx, I know you really like to push the point that basically this group of people is nothing but a sham in the White House. Part of it is true, but the other part is half the time, the stories are only half told. I guess that is the part that bugs me the most. It's too easy to pin the blame on the President. Most of the time, it's usually something beyond even him.

I know that Rex is in charge here, but I'd like to add my two cents worth, or .02 of two cents. I think we can all pretty much recognize what started this or brought this to attention - but I'd like to be clear and point out that this has been a long time coming, not just events of today. There's been many times where I myself have crossed the line and actually said some things in this forum that I shouldn't have. I never quite understand having to have the last word in arguements, whether you agree or disagree on something. If you have to keep pushing your point just to get the last word, it's probably time to step away from this forum for a few hours. I've been guilty of this, but I think you all probably have noted that my tone has been a lot different since I melted down in here the last time. R-E-S-P-E-C-T goes a long way, even if you might disagree with a statement or a view. If someone asks for you to respect this space or themselves even, please do it. It's pretty simple, really. If you don't respect this pretty basic rule, I don't care who you are, you're getting a time out, myself included, and Rex has our support on this. Kap

QUOTE(NorthSideSox72 @ Mar 1, 2006 -> 03:58 PM) Now hold on a second here. Yeah, obviously, there is politics at play here. No denying it. But I've heard on this board, over and over again, that the Dems need to find a more positive message, instead of just beating down Bush and Friends all the time. And I agree. And guess what? This is exactly that. It is a positive message sent by 55 Congressional Democrats. So, even if it is politically motivated, how is it you can so quickly dismiss it, when it is an example of exactly what many GOP'ers and Indies have been asking for from the Dems? for the Dems on this one. Politics or not, they sent a positive message, and attached themselves to a set of principles. Good for them. it's a start, and a lot more then I see republicans doing right now.

Wow. Where did this come from?

QUOTE(FlaSoxxJim @ Mar 1, 2006 -> 01:48 PM) The "everyone forgets stuff" defense is pretty pathetic, Kap, and you know that. We're not talking about whether Scooter can solve quadratic equations or recite The Raven from memory 40 years out of high school. We are talking about a specific important act - sharing clasified information with uncleared individials - which he would have known was a Bozo no-no at the time he was doing it and which he was repeatedly pressed on while testifying. He would also know if he had the authority to commit such an act and who the authority would have been granted by. No matter how many other things he does in the course of fulfilling his job duties, its unreasonable to believe that he would take compromising the identity of an undercover agent so lightly that now it just escapes his mind. The "I didn't know the information was classified" seems like it would be the stronger bucket of bull to draw from, They tried that and it didn't stick. The "Cheney declassified it so it's no biggie" defense is frightening and fits perfectly wih the broad interpretation of executive power taken by the administration. They are throwing everything out there. On this one, we actually agree. I think the whole thing stinks to high heaven. However, I almost always take what's said by anyone about this administration with an alternative point of view and then decide. You will find that in all seriousness I agree with you all more then I let on. I must be forgetting again.

Let me give you an example of something. Last March, I made some decisions and did some things at my current place of employment. All of a sudden, I get subpeoned and I have to remember the DETAILS and I mean EXTREME DETAILS of EXACTLY what I did last year at this time. Do you think I will remember that? Probably not. Or for you college kids - you aced an exam in a mid-level college course last year on March 1, 2005. If I handed you the same exact exam, without cracking a book or notes or lectures or anything to refresh your memory, would you still ace it? Probably not. That's the sort of thing that's going on here. I'm not saying that Scooter is an angel. But at the same time, I'd forget some details of what the hell I was doing in a day to day basis. Edit: DAMN! You keep putting this s*** in this thread to keep 'the other people' from commenting. How cute. See? I already forgot where in the hell I was posting at. Good thing I'm not Scooter. I'll move it all later into it's own thread. I really don't mean to do this.

QUOTE(NorthSideSox72 @ Feb 28, 2006 -> 05:22 PM) Overbought, you mean? The price was inflated from the beginning. That's what I meant. Oops.

QUOTE(greasywheels121 @ Feb 28, 2006 -> 04:48 PM) I'd take him. http://www.sportsline.com/collegebasketball/story/9272381 This is a WAY better candidate then Steve Alford. In fact, Montgomery would make them a national power again, no doubt.

It's been oversold, oh, since it IPO'd.

The media, much like in politics, keeps playing up a total non story. And this just in, so do people on soxtalk.

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Feb 28, 2006 -> 03:09 AM) Or...could it be that I'm hoping for a win in this little election at the end of the year, and the lower Bush's poll numbers, the easier it will be to defeat Bush's party? Ohhhhhhhh. Is that it? I stand corrected. But, my bigger point is, this is what's wrong. You have to have one negative, for the other to be positive. And that really sucks. There's no compromise on issues.

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Feb 28, 2006 -> 12:56 AM) Anywho...always nice to see a new low. The lower the outliers get, the lower the mean gets. YEEE f***ING HAW!!! LOW POLL NUMBERS! OUR PRESIDENT SUCKS!!! WOOO HOOOO!!! And then you wonder why the perception is from a conservative standpoint all you want to do is attack and wish bad things for this president. Edit: Oh, crap, my fault. This is the Bush bashing thread that no one dare speak anything good about the president in here. My fault, I just realized where I was. But I think this is a good enough point to leave it here.

Boring day at the office apparently. Toodles. Time to go home, thanks for the entertainment, peoples.

QUOTE(White Sox Josh @ Feb 27, 2006 -> 10:22 PM) STFU. I don't give a s*** if you believe me. I heard that Thomas told the Oakland A's must have a clause in their contract that says he must be contacted if they decide to not renew. It's all because my cousin's uncle's aunt's sister-in-law told me so.

'08

BS. That's all.

QUOTE(Steff @ Feb 27, 2006 -> 05:51 PM) I wouldn't even go that far. Media comments towards their previous teams, yes. But Frank is stellar with the media on things not concerning a contract or his relationship with Kenny. Charities, the roid hearings, fans... Frank can say no wrong when dealing with those things. He's going to be an awesome ambassador once he retires. It's too bad this stuff seriously tarnishes his image, though.

QUOTE(Steff @ Feb 27, 2006 -> 05:12 PM) Sure does... Remember the finger wagging guy...? Apparently Kenny needs a refresher. Um, yea. Something like that.

Oh... who would have ever thought that Ozzie would be the quiet one on any subject? Ironic, isn't it?

QUOTE(Steff @ Feb 27, 2006 -> 04:53 PM) I'd LOVE to see Kenny try to pull some s***... Love, love, love to... Frank could, and I pray would, bury Kenny's ass with scandle. Kenny's got some major skeletons in his closet. This needs to stop NOW.

QUOTE(Rex Hudler @ Feb 27, 2006 -> 05:06 AM) Although I would be skeptical, I would give Alford a chance. I'm old enough to have loved him as a player, both for his talents and his ability to maximize those abilites with effort. I can still remember the 87 National Championship very vividly as well as the 1993 team that should have been there had Alan Henderson not gotten hurt. If Alford could recruit the state, get the fans, alumni and formal players all back together, then he could win at IU. Don't under-estimate the recruiting power Alford would bring to Indiana. And let's face it, that's more what this is about then 'winning'. If you can recruit, you will win more often then not.

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Feb 26, 2006 -> 08:17 PM) I don't know how doable this would be, but would it be possible to keep either stats for the team available somewhere on the page itself? Or at least game results? I have a couple of ideas I'd like to get in place before the season starts. Scoreboards and things like that are one such item.

Yes, you will go straight to the new site from www.soxtalk.com when we switch it all over. That will happen sometime later today. I'm Mr. Insomniac tonight so I thought I'd pop on here and see what was happening. We will be making some other changes/announcements soon hopefully... so stay tuned. Thanks everyone for their support! Kap

That's one of the reasons why I think Evan Bayh will have a good shot, because he was a very popular Democratic governor in a solidly Republican state.

Ok I'm in!