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QUOTE (greg775 @ Sep 5, 2014 -> 11:26 PM) Robin isn't the greatest but at this point deserves a chance to manage a team with a roster projected to finish first, not last. If he's willing to keep managing the Sox, might as well let him for a while. Why does he deserve that? he deserves nothing but his paycheck for his service as manager. Hopefully it ends soon - he's the worst the Sox have had since Gutteridge in 1970.
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QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Sep 5, 2014 -> 09:15 PM) If it is so much better to not bunt and have the runner at 1st, wouldn't a genius manager like yourself, just walk Abreu anyway ? No I wouldn't. Neither would most mangers. But if one wants to, let them. But to be in that position, L Garcia would have had to make an out. maybe he actually gets a hit. Then you are walking the bases loaded by walking Abreu. Ventura made the affirmative decision to both give away an out AND take the bat out of Abreu's hands. That's an indefensible move. It hardly takes a genius to think one move ahead. That Ventura can't grasp the basics is why he has no business managing. Not to mention managing the Sox to the worst finish in 42 years, another disaster this year etc.
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QUOTE (1dog @ Sep 5, 2014 -> 09:07 PM) And Hawk agrees with it 100% because "you have to put a guy in scoring position." Of course, he also thought Taylor caught that ball. Ventura simply cannot think 2 moves ahead - that's been obvious for 3 seasons. He gives away an out AND takes the bat out of the best hitter's hands. He's a third grader. not to mention the complete tank job this team has done 2 years in a row.
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More bench brilliance - take the bat out of Abreu's hands.
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I thought they were going to a 6 man rotation for the last month. I'm not sure the point of wheeling Danks out there anymore. They really needed to dump him in July. Now, just let him rest.
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Bravo, Hahn. I didn't make much sense to call him up anyway.
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QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Sep 2, 2014 -> 07:48 AM) Gillaspie has the 9th best OPS among major league 3B. Maybe the Sox should look at LF, DH, and C first??? Because I think that trading the farm to get one of the top 8 3B and leaving three other black holes in the lineup probably isn't going to produce good results. I'm bullish on Gillaspie but his defense is subpar. Give him some LF time. Find a right handed hitter and we'd have a killer platoon and a 4th OF who can actually hit instead of a Wise/Danks type
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QUOTE (peavy44 @ Sep 2, 2014 -> 02:07 PM) Rodon is not starting this year. I hope he's not relieving either. No reason to waste service time on this 90 loss team. He had a long college season too. Let him rest. Like to see Mitchell up. Don't see the point of danks. Sox seem to believe that it is their obligation to have an OF who can't hit as 4th OF.
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QUOTE (flavum @ Sep 1, 2014 -> 03:52 PM) I'd give Davidson another year at Charlotte. Only 24 next year. Absolutely
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Hector Noesi & the search for 2 righties
GreenSox replied to The Ultimate Champion's topic in Pale Hose Talk
QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 31, 2014 -> 02:16 PM) If you can tell me what happened to Danks without writing him a $28.5 million check to play someone else, I'll agree. But that's the case for any of those expensive free agent righties. Bullpen and emergency starter. Depth He's a sunk cost. Do what you can with him. -
QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Aug 31, 2014 -> 02:53 PM) FutureSox write-up on the trade, painting a picture of Sanburn for those curious. Thanks Looks like a nifty pickup for Dunn.
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Do the Sox have any plans to honor Adam Dunn next week?
GreenSox replied to sin city sox fan's topic in Pale Hose Talk
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QUOTE (1dog @ Aug 31, 2014 -> 02:33 PM) Has everyone gotten a bellyful of Leury yet? Not exactly sure why he's playing. Still. He's another one who shouldn't play in September - we need to find real IF prospects. But Ventura won't even even pinch hit for the guy.
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Mitchell
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Hector Noesi & the search for 2 righties
GreenSox replied to The Ultimate Champion's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Noesi will be a solid #5 for us; maybe a #4. Three more top 1/2 of rotation starters would help. Rodon should be one by sometime in 15. Sign one. And then maybe develop one in the next couple of years. -
QUOTE (BaconOnAStick @ Aug 31, 2014 -> 12:40 PM) Call up Sanburn, open auditions for roles in the 2015 bullpen before we acquire one outright in the offseason. I'm half joking. Study him, talk to him, see if they can make him a starter again, with that stuff he has.
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QUOTE (flavum @ Aug 31, 2014 -> 11:05 AM) Alexei wouldn't clear waivers, would he? No way.
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Sanburn looks like a nice get for Dunn. John Danks, front and center please.
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The Adam Dunn Appreciation Thread
GreenSox replied to The Ultimate Champion's topic in Pale Hose Talk
He was a poor signing, but he didn't sign himself. He tried and seemed like a good guy. -
That's got to be Montas' lowest K outing ever. Rodon is walking too many. Still has plenty of minor league work to do. As I recall, a lot of people were touting Goldberg at the start of the season as future closer. What happened to him?
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I hate trading with Oak. Never seem to get anyone worth a damn from them. Cotts is about it. I would think they'd want Dunn though.
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QUOTE (Al Lopez's Ghost @ Aug 30, 2014 -> 10:09 PM) I have no idea what you mean. Just what I wrote. He looks clumsier than he is. Now if we can just move Dunn and Danks in the next 26 hours.
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And even in the 9th, Robin "Gutteridge" Ventura pinch hits for Nieto but lets L Garcia hit.
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Looks like we got a couple of reasonable prospects - not bad. De Aza's a good pickup for Baltimore. He's their 4th OF. He can hit, his defense isn't nearly as bad as it looks, and he can play all OF spots. Much better than the Wise/Danks type of 4th OF. And as for his incessant mental errors - we'll see if they happen so often under a professional manager like Showalter. I don't think it's mere coincidence that the mental gaffes from De Aza and others on this team have multiplied over the last 2 year.
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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 29, 2014 -> 10:54 PM) If certain guys can't play hard with their jobs on the line for next year, it isn't the manager that is the problem. Yes it is. And yes he is (one of them, anyway). Players have quit on him - he bears some responsibility for that. And this isn't the first time. With his record, he'd have been out on his ears a year ago and scorned like Bevington were he not Robin Ventura, a "hero".
