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This must be the 40th game like this in the last 2 seasons. Tauchman/Robert/Benintendi went 0/11 with 1 BB. Getz just cannot bring these guys back for another round. This is silly stuff.

Still, they sent Mead down and then traded for Gray. And it's not like Mead was some young prospect they were nursing along - he had over 300 major league at bats. Beyond that, what does a productive fully-developed Mead provide? Getz' deals are consistently on the other teams' terms. They never have to squirm. And that's the problem. I think he's cognizant of it after the public fallout from the 2024 deadline. But he hasn't learned how to do anything about it, other than not make deals.

The Rays preferred Gray to Mead. The Sox sent them Gray for "cash considerations". But the Sox had to send one of the few trade assets* they had for Mead. Why wasn't he available for "Cash considerations" given that the Rays clearly preferred Gray to Mead? Meanwhile, the Rays send real prospects to the Dodgers for a AAAA catcher. Once again, the Sox get the worst of it. *Houser didn't have a lot of value; but he had a morsel.

Fangraphs says otherwise. As does Baseball Reference. As does Law.

I will add Meidroth. He was a secondary prospect and, if nothing else, can play major league SS. Quero and Teel are okay, but they were touted prospects; same with Taylor and they have him in the pen. And when oh when will a Getz Waiver Wire position player special (whether claimed or traded for) amount to anything? There sure have been a lot of them.

So disheartening. The real progress of this season boils down to Rule 5: Shane Smith and Vasil (indirectly). I guess Colson too, especially considering that it looked like he could be a bust. Not a lot.

Getz traded for Julks (a prospect; not "Cash considerations") so I'm glad to see him play. He also traded for DeLoach, Fletcher, Baker...waiver wire types that he traded for. Now we have Gonzalez in AAA...he's a little younger, but he looks just like the rest of them: modest power, not very athletic. And he's bringing back the same veteran outfield for next year. And Rojas continues to take ABs, even though he's clowned it up all season. Get serious please, Mr. Getz.

That would be fine. He’s not a long-term piece. And asking for starters on contenders’ certainly wasn’t a serious effort in July. Maybe it’ll be more successful in December. just stop trading for AAAA players. That is not a market inefficiency- those players are not undervalued. If it was, Charlotte would be the most efficient team in the world..

What was essentially a complete non-effort at the deadline was the tell. You can't be so woefully unprepared at the deadline, like Getz was, if you are seriously rebuilding. It's really the same kind of player that's been around here for a decade. Not very athletic. Not a lot of power. No speed (they'd be last in steals, but for Robert). They don't seem to have a driving philosophy or anything. Just load up with AAAA level players and hope for the best.

How's his OF play? That's really where there is room for him, the current mediocre veteran placeholders notwithstanding.

Galanie is hanging in there. Is he an Elko? or is he a Vinnie P?' And within a blowout loss, Pallette had a productive 2 innings.

Pretty rough; but so was his outing in Seattle.

And, of course, Rojas needs to go. He can't hit, he can't defend, and his baserunning is terrible. And even if he could do those things, which he can't, he'd still need to go. He's crowding out auditions.

IBB to Garver? Oh my

Palette's stats may overstate his struggles; he surrendered 10 ER in 2/3 of an inning over 3 appearances in mid-June. Otherwise, he's been okay with 4 ER aggregate in his other appearances. Still, they take it easy with him: never pitches on back to back days. He's gone 2 innings a few times, but never more.

I begged at the time of that draft to not draft a pitcher, and particularly to not draft Smith. He threw hard but his stuff never looked that great. Rough delivery and lots of Ks on pitches no professional hitter would ever swing at. Paying him over-slot was just inexplicable. And then we went back for more with the comp pick (has Larson made it to Kanny yet)? I sense some hubris from the Sox about these lefties.

It's just that we usually wear the Sox jerseys on the road. I should have said get back to wearing the road jerseys regularly when on the road.

Yes. I was partial to the 1990 look; "C" cap et al. I think we used it just for the last year in Comiskey. At least get "Chicago" back on the road jerseys.

I missed that event; was that post-deadline on the waiver wire? Didn't we also get a couple of Rule 5 Pitchers along with Mead from Tampa? Any hope for those 2?

I want Schultz and Hagen as aces. Well, you can't expect both to be aces, but at least 1 (include Taylor in that group). I am not eager for them to be rushed up; but by 2027, we need an ace out of that group. We need to do something about the OF. We essentially "punted" the problem back a year by retaining all 3 vets, so we'll lose a season of auditioning prospect/waiver-wire guys or whomever. Really, we have a logjam of infielders and some probably should spread their wings to play OF. And often, it's CF, versus a corner spot, that the ex-infielders have the most success with. As for vets, those 3 in the OF that we're stuck with are sufficient. We don't need Rojas and Taylor anymore. They are blocking at this point. Plus, the veteran has to "walk the walk" to have leadership credibility.

You don’t need scouts to know that a 2024 first round draft pick is far, far more valuable than a failed prospect looking for a change of scenery. It’s beyond belief that Getz thinks that value resides in declining prospects (more like a value-trap). Heck, these players are routinely available for free on the waiver wire. And Tampa, of course, trades the real prospects to the Dodgers. I like a lot of Getz' work over the last 2 years, but a C for this deadline is generous: big-time grade inflation.

The Dodgers got Tibbs, who is now their #7 prospect, for the rent of Dustin May and his negative WAR. Tibbs was the Giants #1 pick in 2024 and plays outfield. And somehow the Dodgers get 3 prospects for aging C prospect Hunter Fiduccia, from the very same team, Rays, we’ve been sending players to all year. K Lee anyone?

I'm a Leasure fan and he's got talent. But that last pitch caught too much plate. It wasn't the worst hanger in the world, but still dangerous.

I've been on the Leasure bandwagon for a while. Good to see him get positive results. Command still need improvement. But he's got the stuff and the poise/guts to close.

6-man rotation?