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In case anyone wanted to know (and a few people got one name right) Beckham was one of them. http://chicago.whitesox.mlb.com/news/artic...sp&c_id=cws

QUOTE (rangercal @ Oct 1, 2009 -> 11:21 PM) I drafted the DT in my trade, but things are kinda messed up in my case because there is no way I would draft a OLB in the first round. I definitely would have went QB,DT,WR,OT,CB, or MLB. From an outsider looking in, I'd say you both should be the only ones able to trade or everyone should trade and the both of you can trade one more extra, whatever the limit is (everyone-1; you both-2 or everyone-2; you both-3, whatever) to make it fair. Then again, I have no idea whats going on, so now I will crawl into my corner again..

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 1, 2009 -> 10:41 PM) I'm not underestimating anyone, I am just saying the Sox have their best years when no one is talking about them. Mike, my post was directed at KHP not you brotha..

QUOTE (Tex @ Oct 1, 2009 -> 10:15 PM) Quickly closing in on 1,800 posts in this thread. Really created a monster thread here Tex. Control your baby.

QUOTE (Tex @ Oct 1, 2009 -> 10:03 PM) OK if I rejoin the thread? Please do my good man.

QUOTE (nitetrain8601 @ Oct 1, 2009 -> 08:26 PM) BTW, sorry MHIZZLE, I just heard from my girlfriend, tour was cancelled. No reason given. It's all over the news outlets now. Man whats up with these cancellations. First BTNH canceled their concert here/moved it back, and now this tour. It's not looking good toward the ending 2009 year.

LMFAO.. that band's videos have pretty colors.

QUOTE (Kenny Hates Prospects @ Oct 1, 2009 -> 09:25 PM) Even the "experts" are going to have a hard time picking Slowey-Blackburn-Baker-???-??? or Verlander-Jackson-Porcello-???-??? over Peavy-Buehrle-Floyd-Danks-Garcia. Never underestimate Minnesota. They proved that time and time again. BTW, I think Liriano will explode next year. He'll be two years removed from TJ, which is when more often than not pitchers get much, much better. And again things change in the offseason with acquisitions and such. No doubt though we wont be picked first which is better for us anyways.

QUOTE (G&T @ Oct 1, 2009 -> 12:40 PM) When 2016 rolls around I'll be 33 Ya, I'll be 30 when it hits. Generally I would love to see everything (especially the beautiful women tourist flocking in ) but I'll be old, busted and maybe even married.

QUOTE (LVSoxFan @ Oct 1, 2009 -> 01:01 PM) I like Kotsay and want him back. I also want Pods back--that man HUSTLES. I could easily let go of PK and with Dye, either ship him out or make him the DH. Unless it's a close play at 1B (more or less a bunt or a slap the ball) I've never seen Pods hustle to 1B in fact I've seen him dog it many (if not all) times. There's only a handful of players on this that hustle every time and plays the game right. Two of them are rookies.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 1, 2009 -> 03:51 PM) Skille didn't make it, even with the injuries. Wow. Yea.. Interesting to see Hendry on right now. I like him enough. Can't wait to see Hjalmarsson for a full season and I have no idea why the org. doesn't like Aaron Johnson at all. I have no idea who the hell Radek Smolenak is though. Tony, Jeff, Andy, Mike, Critic, Steve, etc.. Anyone?

I think Chicago gets it, but I WANT Rio to get it.

QUOTE (Kalapse @ Oct 1, 2009 -> 02:42 PM) Case in point: Freddy Sanchez for Tim Alderson No doubt since the new guys took over, their draft philosophy (actually giving the $$ to Pedro Alverez) and some of the trades they've made, they are a different org. than in years past.

Ha nice find. Happens all the time in baseball.

QUOTE (coco1997 @ Oct 1, 2009 -> 02:15 AM) I'd say a package of Fields+Lillibridge+Wise should do the trick. You better add Betemit and Kroeger to put it over the top.

QUOTE (stretchstretch @ Sep 30, 2009 -> 10:41 PM) yeah, let's do our part to get MN in the playoffs! Agreed.

Wow.. the Pirates finally beating up on the Cubs. Even in non contention that never happens. Good to see.

Not counting rainout games.. This might have been the shortest game thread in soxtalk history. A historian here should look that up.

Very weird hearing Mr. bachelor Jason is getting married. And to miss future.. "Gage"?! Oh dear...

QUOTE (JPN366 @ Sep 30, 2009 -> 04:03 PM) I had a difficult time not telling David to get as far away from the White Sox organization as possible. I don;t want to see him go, but I know it's for the best. What did you mean by this..."I still don't know how you think you come across sometimes"? I'll pm it to you, but ya I have to feel bad for David. He's been getting the ultimate screw job it seems for alot of opportunities.

QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Sep 30, 2009 -> 03:51 PM) Offesne looking great as we face Cy Carmona with his 6 1/2 ERA Well to be fair he isn't some unknown who is shutting us down. This guy does have a history, and a very good year a couple years back.

QUOTE (JPN366 @ Sep 30, 2009 -> 03:49 PM) I never said I hated Beckham coming out of college, I admitted that I didn't know anything about him and that I had tunnel vision in regards to Justin Smoak. As you can see, I've fully embraced my dumbass statement during the 2008 draft. When it comes to certain players, I think they should be retained as AAA players, expecially in the case of David Cook, Lee Cruz and Robbie Hudson. It's difficult not to like David Cook, who's hit 125 homeruns in the minors and has major league power. I just want him to get a chance...anywhere. I don't know who you think I've deemed "great," I only talk about what I see and what potential there is. I don't understand why you're accusing me of being pompous, I attend almosy every Barons game and I was asked to write about it as frequently as possible on Future Sox and here. I've been inundated with questions about the players since April. I have seen them play in person more than anyone, that's just a statement of fact. I never said you don't know anything, I just asked if you had seen them play. A simple question. You could have asked in the first place why I included them on my list and we could have discussed it without strife. I don't understand this comment at all..."I miss the old JPN when he had no idea that he was a rare guy watching Baron games and he just "watched" the games. People have been asking my opinion all year, what exactly would you like me to do? If I'm excited by what I see in a player, I want to share it with you guys so you can get excited too. Where's the harm in that? Things were different this year with all the scrutiny on the Barons. That's not my fault. I've just tried to be a gateway of information to everybody. Let's keep in mind that I am in no way a professional scourt, nor would I want to be. So my opinion is just that, an opinion. My observations are just that, observations. I've been asked to share them, don't point a finger at me and accuse me of being a smug know it all. I'm just passionate about minor league baseball and I support the guys who play their butts off who deserve a chance. You can't discount all but a few of the minor leaguers just because they're not super studs. 4 out 6 teams made the playoffs and won a lot of games during the year. I think that means the Sox have a lot of talent in the system to choose from. Well I'll use the "Don't trust this man" from your sig next time then. And i'll personally apologize for the miscommunication of your question which I thought you were taking a shot at me. Ya I also listen to guys like you, Ozzie Ball, Rex Hudler, scenario, Jim Spencer etc.. most of them who actually watched the games as well, and some who I agree with more than others sometimes cause of what I have seen from them and their quick adjustments since college/high school which is believable. I just don't understand keeping the old guys/giving them a roster space unless they are late bloomers or really are good guys for the clubhouse which is what I'm saying. David Cook will never get a chance here so why keep him in taking away playing time for other younger prospects? Unless it's another minor league deal and unless the sox stop dicking around with him and put him in AAA let him thrive elsewhere. I still don't know how you think you come across sometimes, but personally I'll apologize that I came across too strong in this regard and just like both of us watching our minors and spects.

QUOTE (JPN366 @ Sep 30, 2009 -> 09:08 AM) Have you watched them play??? I watched Cruz in college (actually liked him, thought he'd rise up through the system but at his age, his window is closing) and so far judging by your assessment of players you either fall in love with these guys (esp. the old ones) too easily or you are terrible in judging them. Unless the sox feel they should keep them to trade or to be good clubhouse guys they have no future with the sox org. and ever since you've said you have "seen them play" your chin has been so far up in the air when only a few guys you've named make sense at all and this is comming from a guy who hated Beckham comming out of college. No I don't get to see some of these guys when they hit the minors after college, or sometimes high school ball when I get to see them or some that I actually played with but unless they have potential, changed their style, or are younger I don't see how you can deemed them great. I also saw Ricky Brooks and still know the sox are high on him even if he was overhyped. I miss the old JPN when he had no idea that he was a rare guy watching Baron games and he just "watched" the games. No doubt I'm not perfect in judging right either and if I was I would be a scout. Said it in the past I thought Jeremy Reed when gonna be a star (especially when he signed a baseball for me when I went down to Birmingham for a family reunion and fell in love with him ) and of course that never happened, but the old' "oh you don't know anything cause you haven't seen them play" only works to some degree with posters.

Huge risk even with his potential, but the spect lover in me loves him for 3B. Sell low KW.

QUOTE (JPN366 @ Sep 29, 2009 -> 12:05 PM) Lee Cruz KEEP Robbie Hudson KEEP Ew..