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I think at this point we just hope his velocity gets up and he has a decent second half. Just because our team is basically out of it doesn't mean we have to trade him by July 31. We can always trade him in the offseason. I'd still take him over the Jeff Suppans and Woody Williams of the league. Contreras still has a good arm. Maybe if Danks steps up, Contreras could move to the fith spot. Of his 19 starts, 9 of those starts he went at least 6 innings and gave up 3 or less earned runs (QS?). And one of the 19 starts he went 5 innings and gave up 1 ER. He has been shelled alot though.

Conor Jackson to left = Carlos Lee to left

KW is trying to save face from an offseason of busted deals.

QUOTE(Palehosefan @ Jul 11, 2007 -> 06:13 PM) Byrnes is on pace for 25 homers and 88 rbi's with 31 steals, so I doubt he will be asking for the world. But then again Ichiro is about to get 20M a year, so logic can be thrown out the window. Plus, look at the rediculous contract Gary Matthews got. And that was just for 1 years performance.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/columns/story?id=2923301

We have 12 games left against CLE and 14 against DET (I may have counted wrong). So I still have hope. They have both played so good they are bound to cool off. LETS GO SOX!

QUOTE(Gene Honda Civic @ Jun 28, 2007 -> 06:06 PM) I would feel a lot better if two of those tools were the ability to catch the ball and throw it to first base I take it he's bad with the glove?

QUOTE(fathom @ Jun 28, 2007 -> 05:27 PM) Our hitting prospects in the minors suck. There's no one down there that I'm confident can be a MLB starting position player in the next few years. Why? Just because they didn't light it up when they were given the playing time? Alot of prospects have gotten their butts kicked the first time around: Humber, Pelfrey, Bailey. Baseball is a marathon not a race. I liked seeing Sweeney get a hit off K-rod and scoring the winning run in Anaheim. You have to remember too that alot of prospects don't have their best days UNTIL they get to the majors:

I didn't realize this kid had so much upside. KW really flew under the radar with this one, at least with me. With all this trade talk I've been trying to figure out what our biggest weaknesses are in our minor league system. I'm starting to like our prospects depth. I think we could use more pitching (can never have enough) and maybe a solid OF prospect.

This isn't NYC, we have standards and morals here

QUOTE(southsideirish @ Jun 26, 2007 -> 06:32 PM) Why the hell would the White Sox want this package? I assume they don't want it considering they didn't do it.

Does anyone know anything about Jason Bourgeois? He's seems to have solid numbers. Sox trading for Richar probably says alot about what they think of Bourgeois.

I bet teams are willing to give up more than fans think. There are two odds they keep in mind when trading for a veteran at the deadline: what are the odds that they can win it all? what are the odds that the prospects they trade pan out? Every teams goal is to win it all. The Mets, Yankees and Boston all have tons of money invested in their teams. Anything less than a World Series ring is a complete disappointment to them. Teams like the Dodgers and Arizona are stocked with talent so to lose 2 good prospects doesn't mean anything. Teams like the Brewers don't have many chances to make the playoffs so they have to take advantage when they have the chance. I really believe KW is licking his chops.

I'd rather see an OF with 3 of: Owens/Sweeney/Terraro/Acquisition/Ichiro/Anderson I know Sweeney, Owens and Terraro haven't torn it up, but could you imagine the pressure of performing on a talented team that is underachieving like the Sox? The only headlines they get now are how much they suck and who is getting traded. Give the prospects more time.

QUOTE(Steve9347 @ Jun 25, 2007 -> 07:58 PM) This is a GREAT post. Are you being serious or making fun of me? Just curious.

If you look at the teams interested in Sox players, it appears as though KW is putting them up against eachother. Boston & NYY ATL & NYM LAA & SEA SD & LAD & AZ I think KW is running up the price. I think LAD and AZ have the best prospects. http://scout.scout.com/a.z?s=381&p=9&a...p;rc=4&ai=a

I think Masset is good, just not a first inning pitcher (like most starters). Unfortunately, when you are a reliever, that is the only inning you pitch. He has great stuff and is young. I wouldn't deal him yet. Bring up someone else (Gavin/Lance/Gio/Carlos) and have Masset start in the minors.

Does anyone know what happened to Huberto Sanchez? The pitcher the Yankees got from DET for Sheffield. I know KW was high on him.

I'm tired of talking about other team's prospects. Lets talk about ours.

Who was the cornerstone we traded? Garcia? McCarthy? Those are the only two players I remember being traded.

Contreras (Mets) Vazquez (Cardinals or Brewers) Iguchi (Mets) Thome (Angels) Iguchi (Mets) Uribe (Orioles who trade Tejada, but not to us) I would love for us to somehow end up with Crawford and Ichiro in our lineup next year.

QUOTE(Jenks Heat @ Jun 25, 2007 -> 12:23 AM) The treatment of Anderson and Iguchi v. Uribe, Cintron, Terraro, and Gonzalez is kind of a head scratcher. Iguchi is far and away a better player then Uribe yet he seems to find his way to the Guillen doghouse and Uribe who could be one of the worst players since the beginning of last season in all of baseball gets a free pass. If Anderson was healthy it would be an interesting scernario. It is a head scratcher. Its because they speak jibberish just like Ozzie.

Trade Contreras (if he'll waive and there are takers), trade Dye, trade Thome (if he'll waive and there are takers), trade Iguchi (if there's a taker), trade Uribe (if there's a taker), trade Buehrle. In that order. You free up $9 + $7 + $15 + $3 + $4 + $9= $47mil in payroll Let Podsednik walk, another $3mil. $50mil Resign Buehrle (5 @ 15), sign Ichiro(4 @13) The key would be getting solid pitching and hitters in return for your trades. We want to keep our strength (Starting pitching) while strengthing our weaknesses (offense and bullpen)

QUOTE(Greg The Bull Luzinski @ Jun 25, 2007 -> 01:23 PM) KW has failed a number of times, but this artcile seems to have missed many of them. KW didn't fill holes despite all the sellouts and ratings, but the Freddy dump most of us support. What GM hasn't? He won a title, which is the goal. So shut up.

I would blame: Scott Podsenik, Darrin Erstad, Jim Thome, Paul Kornerko, Jermaine Dye, Joe Crede, Juan Uribe, AJ Pierzynski and Tadahito Iguchi... because they suck or crippled. I would also blame: Matt Thorton and Mike MacDougal, because if just one of these two guys didn't suck we would have a better team. But they both suck. I would not blame: KW or JR. This was a good team. We all know it. They just sucked.