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Sign Crede, trade Kornerko to LAA or LAD, move Fields to 1B.

I moved out to Golden, CO from Chicago last summer. I bleed Whitesox black and white but if they are out then I'm rooting for anyone but the Yankees and Redsox.

Are there any other bad contracts out there besides Contreras's that we can swap? I know Burrell gets alot of hate in Philly and if they re-sign Rowand they will have a surplus of outfielders. Maybe Burrell for Contreras and we throw in $5 mil?? Would anyone here do a Garland for Frucal straight up? Both FAs after 2008.

I think a reliever would have to save 50 games or have an era under 2 before they are considered for a cy young.

QUOTE(bigruss22 @ Sep 30, 2007 -> 03:38 PM) What do you guys think of this? source: whitesox.com could it mean bonds is brought in? I thought he was talking about Timo Perez.

I think increasing the payroll to $121 in 2008 isn't that bad when you look at what comes off in 2009.

I still think Arod is a possibility. Reinsdorf suprised everyone with Belle. They extended Guillen so you know they are going to be agressive. Here are payroll projections. http://www.southsidesox.com/special/White-Sox-Payroll-Info You knock off Garland then that saves you $10mil in 2008. That takes that projected payroll down to $83mil. Add ARod at $30/per and that brings you back up to $113. Plug some holes for another $8mil and you are at $121. In 2008 you are down to $66, $96 with A-rod. From a business perspective, they are coming off a terrible season. A PR move like adding ARod would keep butts in the seats, if not increase them. Not spending money will only hurt them with lost revenue. So they have to spend money to make it.

QUOTE(hitlesswonder @ Sep 12, 2007 -> 04:27 AM) I'm going on about 15 pessimistic posts in a row. I can't muster up too much optimism, but I'll try. Broadway spent the year working on throwing a 2-seam fastball, didn't he? So maybe there's some hope he could drop that walk total if he actually does learn how to throw it. I agree that nothing anyone saw tonight should make them think Broadway is anywhere close to being effective in the bigs, 86 MPH fastball and all. But if he could somehow learn the 2-seamer maybe he could be a semi-effective junk-balling reliever or something. That would be a triumph for the minor league system. How about the next Greg Maddux?

QUOTE(kyyle23 @ Sep 3, 2007 -> 03:31 PM) hindsight is 20/20 I was looking more for what people's opinions were at the time and if they glad of the outcome of the trade or do they regret it. Everyone criticizes they're GM for the moves they made or the moves they didn't make. I think it would be cool to post polls for trades then look back at the poll after that season to see how may people would have made the "right" move.

You know how fans in the outfield bleachers hold up signs that say "So and So, hit it here"? Someone sitting on the first base side seats should make a sign that says "Cintron or Gonzalez, throw it here".

I haven't seen any of the games. I know they haven't played that much but what does everyone think of Broadway and Phillips? They seem to be doing better than Thornton and MacDougal.

Guillen has high expectation for Floyd, even though the rest of team has a 4.90 era. Their ignorance is driving me nuts.

I guess Reinsdorf gave the ad agency an F compared to Kenny and Ozzie's A's.

Cintron make Fields look like a gold glover.

I think winning it all is all by chance. Look at the 2005 Whitesox. On paper they sucked. They had one guy (correct me if I'm wrong) with over 100 RBI. Dustin Hermanson, Cliff Politte and Neal Cotts all had awesome career years. Our starting rotation all had career years. None of them will ever come close to that. Look at the Cardinals last year. That team was garbage, but they hit at the right time, they pitched at the right time and they won at the right time. Next year I would trade BOTH Garland and Contreras. Neither of them have an upside. I would not sign Hunter, he is over priced. I would get some youth and hope for the best. I don't think Cleveland and Detroit are that unbeatable. If we put together a team thats .500 at the all start break then we plug some holes then. I just DO NOT want to see the following players anymore: Uribe, Podsednik and Erstad Fields, Richar, Buehrle, Jenks, Wasserman and Vazquez would be my only untouchables.

Garland 8-10 ERA 4.89 IP 169 H 189 BB 51 K 78 Taveras R 60 H 110 HR 2 RBI 23 SB 29 OBP .361 AVG .313 J Hirsh 5-7 ERA 4.81 IP 112.1 H 103 BB 48 K 75 T Buchholz 6-4 ERA 4.32 IP 85.1 H 96 BB 16 K 55 This is a tough one because Garland had a pretty good first half but a terrible second half. Our terrible offense wasn't any help either. What sucks now is that Garland has only hurt his value (see Jose Contreras). It would have been nice to have Taveras's speed and two young pitchers, plus $10 mil to blow on someone else. I personally wished we made this trade in the offseason. But then maybe the Texas or Philadelphia trades don't go down, both of which I liked. Thoughts?

PS, I know its a pipe dream so no need to rip.

The Dodgers have a surplus of pitching, OFs and SS. Grab one. The Angels have a surplus of SSs (Wood, Avayar, Cabrera). Grab one. The Diamondbacks and Mets have a surplus of OFs. Grab one. Konerko and Crede for Kotchman, Wood and Santana (LA is willing to deal Wood because they can't dump disappointing Kotchman and Santana). Contreras for Milledge. AJ for Carlos Quentin. Quentin/Santana to Tampa for Crawford. Crawford CF Richar 2B Thome DH Dye RF Kotchman 1B Milledge LF Fields 3B Wood SS Hall C Buehrle Vazquez Garland Danks Floyd/Gio/Eggy Sign a couple relievers or trade Garland for some.

Send Kornerko to LA for a pitching prospect and an outfield prospect. Do whatever it takes to get Crawford from Tampa. Trade Garland. Trade Contreras. Trade AJ. Trade Crede. Sign A-Rod (I freed up ~$40mil). Rebuild next year. Compete in 2009. Cleveland is beatable. So is Detroit. Just not with the team we have. If we don't dump big names then we aren't going to get anything back in return. And we don't need bandaids like Eckstein. We need long term solutions.

I have to say Ozzie. He's lost the players, his managerial decisions blow up in his face and the combination of his mouth and his losing ways have just made me sick.

Someone's gotta go. Keeping everyone just wouldn't make sense.

You have the worst team in the division and the largest payroll. Your team is 15 games below .500. So what do you do for the next year? Resign everyone!! REPEAT! REPEAT! REPEAT! I can't wait to be disappointed again next year.

I think if we trade Garland or Count, they will be replaced by one of Masset, Floyd, Gio, or Eggy. Danks made the jump from AA so I think Eggy and Gio could. My 3 biggest concerns are SS, leadoff hitter and a veteran bullpen arm.

Doesn't Brian Anderson make your stomach feel better?

I think we'll have to trade Garland and hope Contreras rebounds. Garland's stock is higher. Though eliminating Contreras's risk would also be nice.