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QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ Jul 28, 2011 -> 02:50 PM) I'd take Jameson Taillon for Quentin. #11 rated prospect? Sure.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 28, 2011 -> 02:43 PM) Why wouldn't he? The worst that happens is that no one wants him and nothing changes. I agree. The problem is that I doubt any team would view Dunn as a tool to help them win this year. I do believe he will hit again, hopefully as soon tomorrow (realistically, I'll take next season), and maybe a team will want to take that chance. The Sox would probably not get much back and would probably have to send some cash.

Boston is a team I hadn't heard was interested yet. I don't see a deal happening with Pittsburgh, however, they've been "re-building" for two decades. Maybe they have some good stuff going on in their farm system. Does anyone know about that? As far as the Braves and Phillies, I would imagine if a deal were to happen, it'd be with one of them. I'm torn about trading Quentin. I suppose I'd be happy with a huge haul. But if KW trades him for less than he's worth (and right now he's worth a lot to certain teams), I won't be happy.

QUOTE (Real @ Jul 28, 2011 -> 08:50 AM) Problem is will Dunn Rios and Peavy's contracts hurt our chances of competing next year IMO it's essential that Sale is in the rotation next year This is what I'm afraid of. I'm less concerned with Dunn's contract than those of Rios and Peavy. I think if KW can trade Rios and even have the suckers...I mean other team take on half of his salary, it'll improve the outlook.

I think KW's in a tough spot right now. If this were another division, the decision to sell would be easy. But with the AL Central being so bad, the Sox are right in the thick of it. I would imagine even right now if a great package was offered (like Brown and Biddle), it'd be tough to say no.

To me it seems like Quentin could still be somewhat of a bargain if he was making $7 to $9 million next year (as someone speculated). I realize the Sox may be slowly slashing payroll, but I'm not a huge fan of getting rid of Quentin to do so. It's too bad Rios' contract is so bad.

So if the Sox were to acquire Gamel he'd most likely end up in Charlotte? Or, was there speculation that Morel would go to the Brewers?

I'd approve of just about anything to rid of Rios, especially if the Sox didn't have to send too much money, but is Gamel really a better option than Morel at 3rd? His offense looks just this side of bad, although with very limited action. How's his defense?

Ozzie's comments make me so angry. He said that De Aza was in the right place at the right time, and he'll try to use him. In other words, Rios will be back in the lineup soon.

Great win. Sad that the runs had to come from a guy that was just brought up. Good thing the trade went down in time.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 01:30 PM) Lets say we are dealing an all-star OF'er plus a good pen arm. What would be a good return? What do you know? Current all-star OFer?

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 01:24 PM) Stewart is a decent, not great, prspect. But this perspective you are taking is ridiculous. Yes, the Hudson/Jackson trade was bad. That has absolutely nothing to do with what decisions KW makes after the fact. Zero. Thank you. Seeing posts stating that the Sox gave up Hudson for Stewart makes me want to bang my head against the wall.

QUOTE (bulokis @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 12:15 PM) We do not need Rasmus we have a young up and coming stud in De Aza. F*** AA is better than KW. I don't know if this is sarcasm, but it might be true.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 11:17 AM) Or that we lost out on Colby Rasmus due to lack of a farm system. I think that's where the main frustration comes from. And lol@it being even insinuated that Jackson/Thornton would be enough. Rasmus' potential is unlimited. They weren't going to give him away. That is frustrating. It's sad that big deals are shot down because Viciedo would almost have to be involved in every one.

So when KW says the best players will play, does that mean Dunn will sit more?

I understand there's still a ton of bad feelings about the Hudson/Jackson deal, but this deal has nothing to do with Hudson. Jackson and Teahen were traded for Frasor, Stewart, and cash. It was not Hudson for Frasor.

Rios being benched is the best news of the day...maybe all year. Looking forward to seeing De Aza patrolling centerfield.

If the $10 million from the Jays is accurate, this is not a bad deal, IMO. I honestly don't care what Toronto does with Jackson at this point. If they do ship him to the Cards, they will have to send a top prospect, too. As others have said, the prospect St. Louis wanted from the Sox was most likely Viciedo. And I hope Rios sits his lazy ass on the bench the rest of the season. What he's getting paid doesn't matter...he is not performing, and he's not trying.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 10:27 AM) Would y'all have done Jackson + Viciedo + Reed for Rasmus? No

The Jays will almost certainly be sending a top prospect along with at least Jackson to get Rasmus. If not, there's absolutely no excuse for KW not getting it done.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 10:18 AM) There are quite a few contenders in on Frasor, he may not be staying here. Has there been any talk about this? If so, I wonder who KW might target...or would it be prospects?

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 10:20 AM) It'd have been Jackson + viciedo, I'd bet. And I could see why KW wouldn't do that deal.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 10:14 AM) No, there's no one else the sox can move to create a roster spot unless someone is going on the DL in the next hour and we have no idea. De Aza starting means someone has been dealt. That's what I was wondering. If this deal doesn't get done very soon there's got to be another spot opening (or already open) in order for DeAza to play today.

QUOTE (southside hitman @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 10:14 AM) I'll be so pissed if this is in the case. Unless Blue Jays include stud prospects that we just don't have... I would imagine the Sox just didn't have what the Cards wanted if this is the case.

Was there a roster spot already open for DeAza? Or has something else gone down ahead of the potential trade?