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f***in' Marcus Fizer. If it weren't for Fizer and--it pains me to even remember the name--Tim Floyd, we could have Elton Brand. I'll never forgive Jerry Krause for what he did to the team post-Jordan. Seriously, has there ever been a worse display of player management than that?

QUOTE(Middle Buffalo @ May 30, 2007 -> 02:26 PM) Saw "Bottle Rocket." Not impressed. It's a different brand of humor, that's for sure. The last half hour or so of that movie had me on the floor laughing. [Anthony and Dignan find Kumar in the meat freezer.] Kumar: Man, I blew it. I blew it, man. Anthony: Kumar, what were you doing in the freezer? Kumar: I don't know, man, I lose my touch, man. Dignan: Did you ever have a touch to lose, man? Dignan: Who tripped the alarm, man? Anthony: It's the fire alarm! Dignan: Who tripped the fire alarm? Anthony: IT'S BECAUSE OF ALL THIS f***ING SMOKE, MAN!

I hope it is real so they can capture it and put it in a huge cage and sell rides on it to people.

QUOTE(NorthSideSox72 @ May 31, 2007 -> 07:27 AM) Yes. There is little question in my mind that the kid was trying to get attention by being shocking. Therefore, I have very little sympathy for whatever consequences he endured. Can you prove that? They dropped the charges and, flat out, that was the right thing to do. If you think this kind of stuff isn't written often, you're dead wrong. Sit in for a few days at your local high school creative writing class. Then sit in at your local college creative writing class. Then go to the horror section at Borders. Freedom of speech is not black and white, but not every writer should be put under investigation if they write something that contains mass quantities of violence or some other shocking matter in it.

QUOTE(TheOcho @ May 30, 2007 -> 09:44 PM) These threads are getting out of hand... can't we just stick to trashing Erstad? Gotta agree there, as this list will change at the trade deadline.

QUOTE(SoxFan101 @ May 30, 2007 -> 06:45 PM) Not that he deserved to have charges brought up against him, but why would someone write that crap in the first place? Arent you only asking for trouble when you write that stuff. No. People like the VT shooter give the literary community a bad name. People see that, then they see other people writing stories with gore in it and they freak out. That's not the way to handle the situation. The literary community is in a bad situation right now, especially the up and coming writers. It pisses the hell out of me that I have to watch my p's and q's in my works of FICTION because of that son of a b**** from VT. Stephen King would be on death row if we reacted to gore this way every time out.

I figure they're three players away from contention. A good left fielder and two good bullpen arms. But three players ain't easy to get in the middle of the season, and they don't have a lot of bargaining chips they can afford to give away. I think it's feasable that they can find a left fielder, but one of Aardsma/MacDougal (if not both) have to seriously step up. Otherwise, this team is going nowhere. QUOTE(GreatScott82 @ May 30, 2007 -> 01:01 AM) 1. I would definitley fire Walker, i was against early on in the year when everyone was struggling at the same time.. well its been about a month later and not much has changed. 2. Desperate Deal- Im just not sure KW can make an imediate deal to improve this years team dramatically. Like fathom said, the time to act was in the offseason, but the 'inflated market' and KW's stubborness kept the Sox from signing an impact type player. What possition can be filled to improve this teams offense? What we need is a true leadoff LF. And i wanted Carl Crawford BAD in the offseason... What will it take to get him over here now? Probably Danks and Sweeney and I highly doubt KW would trade away Danks since he's learning how to pitch at the MLB much quicker than we all anticipated, not to mention he will be a cheap pitcher in our rotation for many years to come. I think I'd give up Danks and Sweeney for Crawford. Danks is likely projected to be a number 3 starter at best, but he does appear to be the second coming of Mark Buehrle. However, for this to happen, the Sox absolutely cannot let Buehrle walk. Crawford dramatically upgrades the offense and I don't think there is much of a drop off if you use Masset/Sisco/Russel/Haeger in the #5 spot to finish the year out. I love Danks, but Carl Crawford fills a void (lead off spot) that is extremely difficult to fill for a few years. And besides, if Crawford doesn't put the team in contention, they'll be able to dump the vets and replace Danks at the trade deadline.

Jason said ass.

Better image of the newspaper clipping here.

The writers of this show are good... What a finale. I don't want to wait until the next season. Don't make me wait.

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QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ May 22, 2007 -> 01:49 AM) Anyone else play Oblivion? If so, I have a few questions: - What does sleeping do? How often should I sleep? - What's the trick with the persuasion thing? What's it for, exactly? Any other little tips would be appreciated, too. Sleeping level's you up. As far as persuasion, before you start hitting the buttons, circle through all of them and look at their facial expressions. For the biggest smile they give, you want to land the biggest portion of the triangle in that section. For the biggest frown, you want to land the smallest portion of the triangle in that section. Sometimes doing both is impossible, but just try to get the biggest amount of the triangle you can in the section where the character smiles the most.

QUOTE(ChWRoCk2 @ May 21, 2007 -> 09:47 PM) I cant wait, sick of the cheating on Halo 2, time for the third one to come already. Cheaters are rabid on the PS3 too--for Resistance, at least. They don't do much about it and the way to report people is just unappealing and too much work. But there will be cheaters in Halo 3 just as there will be any video game that has an online feature.

QUOTE(CanOfCorn @ May 21, 2007 -> 02:34 PM) Step 1: Buy whiskey. Step 2: Go to kitchen. Step 3: Grab a paring knife. Step 4: Drink bottle of whiskey. Step 5: Cut.... Step 6: Go to hospital. That seems about right.

QUOTE(SoxFan101 @ May 21, 2007 -> 10:38 PM) If you can afford it go for the ps3, all you need to know. Both are very good systems though. This is true. Say no to the Wii.

QUOTE(The Critic @ May 20, 2007 -> 06:34 AM) Just heard the new song from "Smashing Pumpkins" (aka The Billy and Jimmy Show) and I'm unimpressed. It's not a terrible song, but it's just really forgettable. I always felt like their whole career was forgettable.

QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ May 22, 2007 -> 01:18 AM) Erstad's OBP sits at .315 after tonight. Among CFers who play everyday for their teams in the AL, I could find two CFers who had a lower OBP than that -- Corey Patterson and Coco Crisp. If you did this for leadoff hitters, I'm sure it would be even worse. Erstad has been every bit as bad at the plate as most of us expected. In fact, the line he's putting up right now -- .269/.315/.353 -- looks exactly like what various projections systems pegged him at. I'm glad Erstad has made most of his hits count, and he's done a pretty good job in CF outside of the weak arm. None of that changes the fact that he's still a bad offensive player, and unfortunate as it is, he's the best option the team has out in CF right now. If that $6 million option is activated, though, there are going to be a lot of (rightfully so) pissed of people. There's more to the lead-off spot than the numbers. After all, he pretty much leads off only once a game. But I agree, 6 mil is not what Erstad deserves.

QUOTE(witesoxfan @ Apr 15, 2007 -> 03:36 PM) Koch did get back up to 95-97, he just had absolutely no command of it at all. I mean, the guy went to Florida and walked 20 guys in 25 innings. You wanna talk about no control at all, that's it. Jenks scares me because I don't remember him ever being this slow. I think it will improve, I just don't know if it'll get in the 97-100 range again, which is where he needs to be to remain a dominant closer. I disagree with that. If he can keep it up near 95, which is where he seems to be now and locate the ball he'll still be a dominant closer. He has one of the better hammers in all of baseball, hitters are still generally behind his fastball on first look and his slider doesn't look bad either. I like what they're doing with him. They're taking him from just a pure power pitcher and turning him more into a pitcher. If he regains that velocity, it's a major plus. If not, he's still a damn good closer. Even though he's somewhat out of whack right now, I'm still very confident when he takes the bump. QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Apr 16, 2007 -> 10:45 PM) If the White Sox hope to go to the playoffs this year and win in the playoffs, they are going to need a better Bobby Jenks than the 2006 version. He was fine the first half. He wasn't very good the second half. Pretty brutal in September. Even Ozzie is concerned about his velocity, and Jenks and Cooper disagree on why its down. If its going to take him a month or 2 into the season to regain his velocity, he's going to need a new offseason program. I also think the odds are he dissappears from the spotlight about as quickly as he entered it. I really don't think he'll have a very long career. IMO he is a prime candidate for a devastating arm injury, and his lack of velocity is something that may make that more likely. If he's only capable of throwing 93 or 94 and he's out there trying to throw 100, something bad will probably happen. The good news is he seems to be the one right now least worried about it, decreasing the likelihood of that happening. If his job suddenly is on the line though..............BTW according to the Sun-Times, he will be working on his mechanics using the towel drill. What? Jenks is in his third year of MLB service and he knows everything about his mechanics and what to do and when to worry about his velocity? If that's the case, why does Coop ever speak a word to him? Coop knows what the hell is up with him, that's why they're working his mechanics. If Coop is more worried about his velocity and telling him to get more power from his legs, then Coop sees and injury in the near future. If Jenks doesn't feel like listening, and feels like everything is fine and goes out there and puts extra strain on his arm to hit 99 MPH, the starlight will shut on him just like you said. Coop ain't the one wrong here. Jenks needs to be worried.

QUOTE(caulfield12 @ May 20, 2007 -> 07:10 PM) Contreras has an ERA of about 2.5 since the Opening Day start and we'd miss him the least? What? He's the only pitcher on our team that has shown the ability the last couple of seasons to go on an extended run of shutting down other teams...Buehrle and Garland hit too many bats, and Vazquez is simply inconsistent at this point, at best. With one good start from Masset, that doesn't automatically mean you can pencil him into the rotation for the rest of the year and shed Contreras like that. But it worked for McCarthy! Oh, wait. Agreed. If the Sox want to contend this season, none of the starters are headed towards the exit.

QUOTE(Melissa1334 @ May 19, 2007 -> 03:27 PM) so dumb..to blame the hitting coach when guys like crede, pk, uribe, etc cant hit. its there fault, doesnt have anything to do with him. funny how the sox were great last yr with walker Did you tune into any of the games in the second half? Walker is cooked. I can't wait for the day he is canned.

QUOTE(caulfield12 @ May 19, 2007 -> 04:46 AM) And you would trust KW to rebuild this team? Why? And what new manager would you want to bring in? Bobby Valentine? Buck Showalter? Cito Gaston? The same old recycled guys? Let's say they lose Buehrle and Dye as Free Agents...do you really trust KW to rebuild, when we've had so many blown first round draft picks and busts in our farm system? It's not just Ozzie Guillen, it's a systemic/endemic/organizational problem....front office, major league coaching staff, scouting, advanced scouting, minor league instruction. You could fire Ozzie right now and we would still be a .500 team. Joe McCarthy or Connie Mack wouldn't get this team, as presently constituted, to 90 wins. We're incredibly fortunate to be over .500 at this point. You can give all the credit to the players for the wins and blame to Guillen for losses, but a team that scores less than it gives up is hardly ever in the playoffs. Not even Merlin the Magician can pull that one off, in cartoon movies. Wow, I love when people twist my words. Did you not see the IF in my post? IF KW can rebuild the team. IF IF IF IF IF IF IF IF IF. And I'm not saying I dislike Ozzie Guillen. I'm just saying I feel if the team goes into rebuilding mode, it'll be with a new manager.

8.2 from Gamespot. http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/sports/mlb07th...ten;all;title;8

QUOTE(whitesoxfan101 @ May 18, 2007 -> 11:15 PM) But it is necessary. I will make this antagonistic declaration right now, because it is needed and accurate. I have 2 thoughts for those of you who, after what Ozzie did from about 8 AM today until 4 PM today, still think he's anything other than a AT LEAST bad manager. 1. Your an idiot. 2. Go become a Cub fan, because only one of them could think anything else of Guillen after today. If we miss the playoffs and he still has a job after this season, I also want Kenny fired as well simply for his loyalty to an idiot. Last year proved Ozzie is a bad manager, today proved that barring a playoff appearance, he must go. If we don't make it to October, I will not tolerate a bad manager with a big mouth who missed the playoffs 3 of his 4 seasons. Period. Heads already hit it, but YOU'RE an idiot. Anyway, it is tough for any manager to mange over 4 errors. QUOTE(fathom @ May 18, 2007 -> 11:34 PM) In terms of in-game managing and player evaluating, I'd definitely choose Manuel over Guillen. Guillen's big advantage over Manuel was supposed to be player relations and motivation. There's been rumblings about some clubhouse issues lately.....and we have to get this AJ bulls*** to stop immediately. That was bound to happen, wasn't it? Fact is this is probably Guillen's last year any way you look at it unless the White Sox make a run deep into the playoffs...which doesn't seem likely. It's a bit of a different feel, but this team is just like the teams of '01-'04--in the mix, but not quite there. This may seem odd, but I'm looking forward to rebuilding and seeing some fresh faces. I'm excited to see if KW can bring this team back to the top.

QUOTE(Texsox @ May 18, 2007 -> 06:47 PM) Even if the offended person handles it without complaining that doesn't make it right. I once asked a few of my Mexican-American Scouts why it was the Anglo kids in the Troop that were madder than they were when some kid started calling our guys wet backs and other slurs. They replied if they got upset every time they heard stuff like that they would be walking around mad all the time. The fact that they didn't complain or get upset doesn't mean they were not offended and hurt. It also doesn't mean those comments should be condoned. Agreed 100%. However, word meanings tend to change. Somehow gay turned into homosexual. Then it turned into stupid. I wonder how that happens. When the word n***** comes up--and I may be wrong--it had one use. (Please correct me if I'm wrong.) When I hear people say, "That's gay," I don't take it as an attack to the homosexual community. Though, I'm not homosexual and therefore the word doesn't hold much weight with me in the first place. Really, the only word in the English language I find offensive is n*****. Perhaps that's due to the history of the word. But then the issue becomes whether or not people need to be oppressed for the word to become offensive. I don't think so. So to end this thought, people should just mind their p's and q's when they're out amongst the public. Do what you do in your own home, but act accordingly and acceptably outside your home. As one of the most outspoken and fearless writers, Charles Bukowski, once wrote, "Kindness is just about the best you can do."

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ May 18, 2007 -> 07:33 AM) Why was gay substituded for homosexual? This is the question that needs an answer. As far as I'm concerned, gay means a merry, live spirit. As in, "I'm having a gay time." Pick up F. Scott Fitzgerald's, "The Great Gatsby" and I'm pretty sure he uses "gay" in that form. The word doesn't truly mean homosexual. QUOTE(dasox24 @ May 18, 2007 -> 03:15 PM) Wow, Tex. Saying "gay" is nowhere near the n-word. I like what you have to say 99% of the time, but that's a rediculous analogy. Like SS2k5 said, why did "gay" start substituting for "homosexual?" If someone were to say "that's homosexual," then you could use your above analogies as examples of wrongly using a phrase. I think "gay" has too many different meanings to compare to the n-word or calling someone a "Jew." Wrong. Put "gay" into proper context and it's just as hateful. However, context is the important issue. And context is too much open to interpretation. The context for n***** is already in the word. For gay, it's not. However, the context certainly can be put into the word and become as hateful as n*****.