GoodAsGould

QUOTE(SSH2005 @ Dec 5, 2005 -> 09:30 AM) That's the only move Cleveland has made right? They still need a closer, right fielder, and maybe a first baseman. Well they are supposedly going to sign Hoffman too and he is still good although prob wont be as good as Wickman was last season. And id assume they are only going to upgrade one of those positions not both.

Id say they have more of a chance to find out these types of stuff than we do but with KW as our gm and at this point they dont know anything more than we do involving Jon Garland.

QUOTE(LDF @ Dec 5, 2005 -> 08:10 AM) i like his makeup as a future coach. look at the way he help with jenks when hermanson wasn't pitching. You dont think Don Cooper and the minor league manager had more to do with that than Hermanson..........

QUOTE(SSH2005 @ Dec 5, 2005 -> 07:45 AM) I hope this is true: http://www.twincities.com/mld/twincities/s...ts/13322010.htm Didnt I say this way earlier in the thread.

He also said he would still like to spend most of his career as a whitesox just towards the end spend a couple with the Cards. Although right now Im not worried about him maybe next off-season ill be thinking about his contract but thats a long time from now so no worries.

QUOTE(NUKE_CLEVELAND @ Dec 5, 2005 -> 07:52 AM) Thats kinda sad too cause Eli Manning is a joke. I expected the 'Boys to win this one. Eli Manning is a joke??? Wow you either know next to nothing about football, dont watch Giants games, or just a hater.....

Who said anything about apologizing? Everyone who has a brain recognizes the Bears defense if not the best(which it is by far) at least a top 3 unit. Its the offense that just completely sucks and in the playoffs is going to cost us. Orton hasnt done a thing going back to the 49ers game. b4 that he at least moved the offense a little but he has actually gotten worse. And as for not making mistakes even though all we do is little passes and we run so much more he still seems to throw at least 1 interception every game. At this point Jeff Blake could do a better job running the offense hell id argue Kittner or whatevr the 4th string QB could do as good of a job as Orton is. And its not the rest of the offense's fault... The running game has been awesome especially since we have no passing game, the O-Line has been great on run and passing plays, and believe it or not the WR's have been getting open a lot more than they are credited for and Orton keeps missing. The only guy who completely sucks is Desmond Clark :puke

QUOTE(Jordan4life_2005 @ Dec 5, 2005 -> 07:33 AM) They played an elite offense in the Panthers. You know the rest. The Panthers arent an elite offense... they are a 1 demensional offense and because of that we were able to dominate them. The teams in the NFC that would give us trouble are the Cowboys(although I think less so every week), Giants, and Seahawks.... In the AFC id say Colts obviously and Chargers.

Unless Orton has his best game since the 1st yes the 1st not 2nd Detroit game we will lose next week. And thats when the real Orton bashing will begin.

I know Urlacher is getting a lot of play for DPOY havent heard anything about Vasher and although he is having a good season he wont win.

Its funny White Sox Josh is the only one who thinks Orton is good lmao... hey we dont know if Grossman is going to be an upgrade but what we do know is when he did play he was much better and we know you really cant be worse than Orton.

I didnt expect us to win this game anyways lol.... still its nice to see Deng had a good game.

Wow I didnt even know the Cardinals were interested in him.... Although he has nasty stuff I dont even consider him an upgrade over Morris

I voted 10 because hell Im a Bears fan but I think this will be a close hard fought game unless Orton actually moves the offense this week.... he has been really s***ty the last 3 weeks I know both were tough defenses and 1 was the windiest game ever but still he needs to have a decent game.

They suck but the Hawks have a lot of young guys fun to watch Josh Smith, Childress, Marvin Williams, and Salim Stoudemire. I guess the raptors got Chris Bosh?

Yeah seriously the NBA refs need to all be fired there isnt a single one of them that are any good at thir job

Dont the Marlins have the best OF prospect outside of Delmon Young too? Im pretty sure they have a CF prospect who is Pierre like also. Anyways they should be an exciting team to watch in a couple years.

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Dec 2, 2005 -> 05:51 PM) You dont want to get rid of your Cubbie sig huh? :headshake my cubbie sig? I have a whitesox player and devil rays player there too if you didnt notice... and another whitesox player in my avatar lol

QUOTE(YASNY @ Dec 2, 2005 -> 08:51 AM) I'm not trying to be argumentative here, but when you put into the perspective of "We got Jim Thome." well, I'd dismiss it too. Well yeah I like the trade too so thats not what im trying to say....but its all good we got Thome and Konerko and all we lost was Rowand so im happy.

QUOTE(YASNY @ Dec 2, 2005 -> 08:46 AM) That good pitcher is more likely to get that batter out if he happens to hit from the same side as the pitcher throws. Generally yes... but our pitchers must be dumb... Cotts is better vs righties and Marte sucks against everyone...

QUOTE(YASNY @ Dec 2, 2005 -> 08:28 AM) The point he was trying to make was that prospects don't usually amount to much in the long run. The odds of Gio winning 50 ML games, at this point in time, are long. And thats a valid point... with prospects especially ones only in A ball chances are they wont be a good major leaguer if one at all.... but to dismiss it like Jeckle did when you know nothing about the prospect is dumb and that was the whole point of all the talk.

QUOTE(YASNY @ Dec 2, 2005 -> 08:38 AM) As opposed to us whining about people who are million times the athletes we are, for fun. Hey I can make fun of Eric Piatkowski and Keith Van Horn all i want!

QUOTE(YASNY @ Dec 2, 2005 -> 08:23 AM) Do you really think that for 100+ years that baseball managers have wrong about this? Statistically, RHH hit LHP better than they RHP. Statistically, LHH hit RHP better than they do LHP. It's been that way for a century and there are valid reasons for it. Thats true but the way I look at it.... A good pitcher will get a batter out if he is a righty or lefty.... and right now Marte isnt a good pitcher.

How about in Dallas with the traveling call on Duncan at the end lol

QUOTE(YASNY @ Dec 2, 2005 -> 07:33 AM) No more ridiculous than 'creaming' over an undersized Class A pitcher that can't seem to stay healthy. and who exactly is "creaming" over Gio? I know the point im getting across is its foolish to dismiss a prospect if you know nothing at all about him or minor leaguers in general. And the previous poster acknowledged he is only a prospect but its dumb to call him worthless when he has obvious talent and was one of our top 3 pitching prospects.