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People gave me shit when i told them nolan wouldn’t cost anything... now people are crying everywhere on Twitter about how awful the trade was for the rockies... this is a fair trade, tge rockies getting anything for nolan is a plus. Now they need to go all in and trade their stars while their value is high. I want tge rockies to be good again someday

Cleveland won’t be going away

This time it feels real tho. That tweet is brand new... players are talking to each other, Arenando seems to be OK with voiding the no trade clause. IMO this looks like it happens. It makes way too much sense for the Rockies... they are going NOWHERE looking up at Dodgers + Padres

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This is the right stance. Offseasons for the CWS have been major failures.

Eaton is also getting older, more injured, and less skilled due to age. Not a very fair comparison IMO. Also, with Joc you just don't play him vs LHP.

eh.. knowing the cardinals and how cheap they've been this offseason, they will likely give up a good prospect for colorado to cover some money ?

should have signed Eaton + Joc, sox need more depth no reason not to get both

No need to argue, I genuinely tried to be a Padres fan but ran into a problem with West Coast games being on too late where i legitimately couldn't follow the team :(.

Agreed. His contract makes him about even. Getting his contract off the books for Colorado is all that should matter for them. The one tough thing is that Nolan has an opt-out I think after this year. So any team trading for him has to consider that risk.

This is just not true, I couldn't stay up for the late west coast games so all west coast teams are n/a to me. However, if Portland ever gets a team, I think I'm moving there and giving them my allegiance.

If he stays on the field, maybe

Great pick up by the cubs, TBH. Joc isn't the best thing in the world, but he 100% replaces and upgrades Kyle Schwarber and is probably cheaper.

Good. It's about damn time Colorado made some moves. They need to sell off, badly. If I were them, I'd sell Arenando for literally anything. Just get his contract out of the way as they aren't going anywhere. I'd trade German Marquez for an absolute haul (hopefully to the white sox). I'd play the youngsters, see whaat I have, and then try to find a way to break the SP gap at Coors.

So even when the cubs are trying to shed all the payroll in the world, they end up with a better OF acquisition then us. Cool JR

https://www.soxmachine.com/2021/01/28/if-the-white-sox-are-done-spending-its-back-to-hoping/ Singling out those numbers: 2011 value: $526 million 2011 payroll: $127.9 million And 10 years later: 2021 value: $1.65 billion 2021 payroll: ~$127 million

You forgot Trevor Bauer

Not going to wine about it. Hopefully the White Sox bring in bauer.

Theoretically, they should have enough money to sign Bauer to a 30 mill year contract, extend Giolito and sign Cruz. It just makes me incredibly sad looking at it all.

Some more payroll facts from our CWS 2020: Ranked 20th 2019: Ranked 26th with 91 mil 2018: Ranked 29th with 72 2017: Ranked 24th with 95 2016: Ranked 20th with 98 2015: Ranked 15th with 115 2014: Ranked 20th with 91 2013: Ranked 8 with 120 2012: Ranked 11 with 97 2011: Ranked 5 with 130 2010: Ranked 7 with 110 2008: Ranked 5 with 120 Those are opening day payrolls Basically, this team has been at the bottom of the league for the last 5 or so years. It's now in go-hard time and won't spend like it has in the past. It has some arbitrary cap on the team set at like 120ish million. With the money saved from 2016-2019 we should easily be able to go for it and more, but they won't. The ranks after the world series years were actually pretty good, like top 10 in baseball good.

I mean, let's be honest tho -- it's not JUST a Jerry problem. This is a problem with the MLB. You have the haves and the have NOTS. The teams that will spend, the teams that won't. https://www.spotrac.com/mlb/payroll/ White Sox are above league average, barely, and IMO that isn't saying much. You look at those bottom teams and PUKE. CLE/PIT are beneath 30 mil. That is just... insane. As of right now, Oaklands payroll fits 2 of CLE. As of right now, CWS payroll fits 4 CLE teams. Just insane. I mean, this is a DEEP topic that stretches well beyond just forum anger here. The game that we love is fundamentally rotten at it's core. IDK how long it's been this way, but everything is connected here with the owners vs. players union and the payrolls. It's all sickening when you really get into it. I'm quite fascinated by the topic, I wish I had more literature on it, but it's also hard to find good literature when both sides are spewing fake news to garner public favor. But TBH anyone defending jerry/owners is out of their mind. These guys are making TONS of money. The arbitrary Luxury tax of 210 million is pretty lame IMO. That needs to go.

HOU - N/a OAK - BAD LAA - GOOD TEX - I argue good, they picked a lane this offseason and have gone in strong, lots of moves to get yougner SEA - N/a rebuilding team, doesn't need to spend, has built a great team CWS - BAD KC - N/A Can't say good as they they don't really put money into the team, but haven't had a bad offseason and have been active CLE - BAD MIN - BAD DET - N/A same as KC, just not in a spending time period NYY - Good BOS - Good TB - BAD BAL - N/A TOR - GOOD LAD - GOOD SD - GOOD SFG - GOOD, rebuilding team but spending money/winning usually always spends anyway COL - BAD ARI - N/A CHC - BAD STL - BAD MIL - BAD CIN - BAD PIT - GOOD, no LOL BAD NYM - GOOD ATL - Tough one, but BAD - Same position as us but won't upgrade or put money into it PHI - GOOD FL - N/A - Rebuild WAS - GOOD N/A mainly is for rebuilds where they have a legitimate excuse not to spend top dollars, but all rebuilding teams could do better if they did put money in of course. GOOD teams - 11 BAD - 12 N/A rebuilding proper - 7 Surprised to find more Good teams than I expected

Definitely .. a lot of this wishful thinking hinges on just how serious the mets are... if reports are true that he has a massive offer on the table then we are already out. im hoping its all smoke and mirrors

Fuck man, i want bauer so bad. Grabbing him would not only make me not care about eaton/la russa, but id actually be happy about it all. Bauers so fun to watch oh well maybe we have a new chance since cohen seems to be making negative waves with the whole stonks thing

That's definitely true.. the massive wastes on free agency over the years has been pretty bad. It would have been better for the Sox to trade for bad contracts and take back prospects rather than spend what they've done in free agency on middling talent ready to expire.