southsideirish71

Our 3-4-5 hitters sucked today overall. This is the 2nd series they didnt show up to. They left a small village on base. Wright kept using his changeup away, and we couldnt resist pulling it on the ground for a DP. Nice effort. Next time guys, remember you dont need to hit the dramatic home run every single time you come to the plate. Sometimes a single or a double will clear the bases. However having Freddy give up 3 before you could blink an eye, and then another 3 before he left is just dumb. So much for the theory of he is good on the road in day games against good teams. Its time for some of our rotation to make a quick trip to the DL to refresh them. Let Bmac stretch out and start and leave Tracey in the bullpen. Our entire teams needs the Tom Emanski refresher on how to run the bases. And for anyone who tries to compare this to August of 2005, dont. We had a nice 15 game cushion last year. If we drag ass like we did in August we will be fighting the twins for 3rd with the division and wildcard out of reach. As far as motivating this team, what do you do. They had the 2nd place team in the wildcard with a 6 game lead. If they just avoided the sweep they would be 5 games up. Now they are 3 games up. And 4 1/2 out of the division. Maybe just maybe playing the B team and taking some of those losses against the Royals in April didnt exactly give us the cushion we could of used right now. This team needs a major wake the hell up, or they will ruin a good thing here.

QUOTE(YASNY @ Jul 16, 2006 -> 09:42 AM) I think Mark's got a tired arm. He needs to skip a couple of starts. As bad as Mark has been lately, it wouldn't hurt to let Tracey take his turn for a couple. I would rather stretch out bmac, have him in the rotation while some of our starters get some DL rest time. Then move Tracey in the bullpen. Our team has a much better shot at winning with bmac in the rotation over Tracey.

Well at least this hopefully brings the Hermanson will be our bullpen savior to a quick end. Lets go KW go get us an arm.

vs Time for Freddy to man up and let his fastball go. We need this win to stop this little bump in the road.

Buerhle is at his best when he has his control, which is obvious. But especially when he runs his cutter in on the hands of righties. Pounding them in, like Mariano does to lefties. I know they dont have similiar stuff, but for Buerhle when he pounds them in with his cutter he is a much better pitcher. It opens up the outside corner for his back door breaking pitch or his changeup away. From what I see he is leaving his pitches up. He leaves his fastball up and over the middle of the plate. What he has been doing now for a month, is trying to sneak a quick fastball or breaking pitch over the plate because his control is off, so he can then use his breaking pitches to get the hitters out. What has happened is that people have figured this out, and are now hacking at the first pitch which is usually either center cut or away. They are not trying to pull the pitch, and are looking to go to right center with him. This is why you are seeing a lot of doubles to the gaps off of Buerhle. Buerhle and Coop need to figure out what is causing him to leave them up. He needs to get his command and control back.

QUOTE(winninguglyin83 @ Jul 15, 2006 -> 05:33 PM) it's Tracey. nice to see the Sox give him another chance. He's got a power arm. command ain't much. but he can do the long relief thing His command was pretty good when he was up last time. The only thing he couldnt do was plunk a batter. But his stuff was good, good crisp fastball, nice breaking pitch, and a wierd delivery.

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QUOTE(Heads22 @ Jul 15, 2006 -> 05:22 PM) Tracey didn't start. Either he is coming up, or he is part of a trade.

QUOTE(Heads22 @ Jul 15, 2006 -> 05:11 PM) I assume, at this moment, you're putting Count and Jon ahead of him. Yup the Count and Jon are ahead of Bmac. Buerhle can be the minute he gets his head out of his ass, and starts to keep the ball down, and run his cutter in on righties.

I met Cliff Politte at soxfest. He is a great guy. I feel bad for him as a person. I hope he gets the surgery for his arm and gets the bone spurs taken out. You cant blame a guy for doing whatever he could to avoid surgery in his walk year. Good luck to you Cliff and thanks for last year.

QUOTE(soxunited @ Jul 15, 2006 -> 05:04 PM) There isn't much of a choice now, is there? Who do you honestly expect to get for Garcia and Vasquez? You are certainly not going to get two quality starters in return. McCarthy I agree, should have been starting long ago. It is a disgrace that he has been left to languish out in the bullpen. Bmac needs to step into this rotation. As of right now he could pitch better than 3/5s of our current rotation. Maybe KW used him in the bullpen to keep him fresh for the 2nd half push. A lot of young starters tire out in the 2nd half due to never pitchng that many innings. He threw 180 innings last year and should be fresh for the 2nd half run.

Politte needs to be designated. He is done. Hermy has back discomfort. If we rely on either of them, then we are nuts. Remember if a player, no matter how crappy is on a team, ozzie will play him. Timo Perez was a DH, a 1st baseman, and our leadoff hitter last year. Buerhle needs to start to get his pitches down in the zone a bit more. And throw his cutter into righties more. Pitchers like Buerhle live on deception, guile and control. He needs to run that cutter in on the hands of righties to get his changeup away to be effective. Today all he did was throw medicore fastballs belt high over the middle of the plate. Garcia needs to start throwing hard, get traded, or get an MRI. Vazquez needs to throw his slider more o 2 strike pitches to righties. He likes to throw his curve or his two seamer which seem to get him beat. Garland needs to do more of what he has been doing. Pitching in and running his sinker down and in to righties. Contreras needs to keep on his track. He is almost turned the corne. And Ozzie needs to stop trying to get X pitcher the victory and worry more about the Whitesox getting the win. To many times he lets a pitcher start an inning hoping that he will get the victory, instead of letting his bullpen take care of it. Or worse, he lets a pitcher get mauled over the coals for 8 or more runs, only to have us come back just short at the end of the game. You dont need to let a pitcher give up 8 or more to figure out he is having a bad day. Bmac needs to be in the rotation. His arm is electric, his change is nasty and this kid is chomping at the bit to start. Putting him in the rotation will give this team life

QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Jul 15, 2006 -> 01:34 PM) Considering people in another thread were saying Garcia and Vazquez would be the best starters on the market, I think you're right. The only way the Sox improve the rotation is either their pitchers pitch better or they move McCarthy into it. The series in Detroit is going to be big for Detroit, huge for the Sox. Its actually going to be huge for the sox, and not so big for Detroit. We have to sweep them to make something up. If we keep choking here we will be 4 1/2 or 5 1/2 games out. They could literally put us out of the race quickly.

BTW hopefully at some point we stop drafting guys who can barely break a plane of glass with their fastball.

QUOTE(chitownsportsfan @ Jul 15, 2006 -> 01:33 PM) True, but the sunk costs, AKA the rotation, might just have stretched JR's purse strings a little too tight on the operating budget for midseason trades. Not if we ship Freddy and his mid 80s fastball out of here. That would clear up some money.

We need someone to get a hit with RISP. Just a base hit please or a double in the gap. Yet we choke again. Stop launching every pitch into the air. A couple singles or double will work. Yet I forget we score the most on the dong in all of baseball. We live and die by the dong.

Buerhle has before todays game a 11.91 ERA in July. Freddy is at 7.36 Vazquez is at 5.54 Garland is pitching well in July 2.35 and the Count is at 2.15

If we lose today and the tigers win this is how its going to break out. We will be 4 1/2 games back on our division. And the Yanks will only be 4 games out of the wildcard. We are playing ourselves into a pretty precarious postion. We need to wake the f*** up.

QUOTE(Heads22 @ Jul 15, 2006 -> 01:19 PM) When does 2 runs = 5 or 7? I am going over the last few weeks. Check out how many runs our starters have given up. Plus 2 runs have now become 4 runs. And its early.

QUOTE(rangercal @ Jul 15, 2006 -> 01:18 PM) you cried all year in 2005. I think we did all right that year. I dont think we should bunt all the time. You have the wrong guy, I am the guy who is on the hit it the other way and not try to hit the dong guy.

Nice pitching by Buerhle this inning. We need bmac in the rotation. We cant have every f***ing pitcher giving up a 5 to 7 spot outside of Contreras.

Smallball being executed by the Yanks. Ozzie will overmanage now, and try to bunt to match torre.

QUOTE(jphat007 @ Jul 15, 2006 -> 01:14 PM) Dammit BA> Need a productive out there with Moose on the mound. I know you love BA so much. But BA hit a swinging bunt. Cintron should of been over at third on that play. Pods and Gooch also s*** the bed.

QUOTE(Greg Hibbard @ Jul 15, 2006 -> 01:13 PM) that was a strike, guys. Well lets see if Buerhle gets the same pitch. I am betting the answer is no.

f***ing Froemming. I know you want to get watered, but good lord that was a strike?