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Vinnie Pasquantino likes playing for Italy. Might be fun for him. People's heritage means a lot to them especially if they're close to a grandparent from the old country.

You used the word lie or lying 5 times in this post when referring to Getz over trading a player as if you arent fully aware that GM's and agents all dont partake in some kind of manipulative word games as part of off season rhetoric. You show way more disdain for Getz with your sarcastic blast at anything you perceive as pro Getz with your Oz reference and pretentious use of "lying" than Eddy ever shows in trying to protray a fair picture of the Sox front office. Let's just call a spade a spade . This is all about continuing the narrative that Getz is a villain and ignoring that there has been quite a bit of others buying into what Getz is trying to build . He isn't some Svengali although you seem to revel in portraying him as such.

I agree. Its a game and deception is part of it. Using words like Getz is lying or Getz is a liar is more inflamatory and more Anti Getz than anything you say that people perceive as pro Getz. We should all be Pro what's best for the White Sox and it's my understanding that Getz and his staff are doing their best under trying financial restraints. Let's not pretend that there's anything more sinister going on here besides an owner extremely cognizant of preparing the team to be sold so his heirs make as much money as possible after his death.

I hadn't even read what you say here before I made my post (above) that started with "3rd time's the charm ?" in which I also took a look at the big picture which is very much in line with your too simplistic look philosophy .

3rd time's the charm ? Getz has to have a couple of objectives when it comes to Robert. A. Trade him for a return he thinks is head and shoulders above another offer. B. In the unlikely event that offer doesnt materialize, keep Robert and hope his talents manifest enough to contribute to a much stronger record in the 1st half to avoid another 100 loss season . Murakami and the promise of a full years worth and continued progress from the young hitters is not guaranteed . If both Murakami and Robert do well Getz could be looking for a much bigger score at the deadline . Then after the TDL the Sox could be fueled by pitchers returning from TJS and perhaps Braden Montgomery, Antonacci, Schultz, Hagen Smith , Oppor and McDougal.

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I think thats what they used to call the children who benefitted from Jerry Lewis hosting the Muscular Dystrophy Telethons for many years. Jerry's Kids was in the vernacular back then.

sounds like its right in the AAV range I suggested $20-25M. $21M AAV for his contract and with the posting fee probaby close to $75M total. I haven't done the math.

That's all true and was taken into consideration. Until I hear that he's incapable of running the franchise I will act as if he is still capable and his mental facilities are still sharp. All indications point to that still being the case.

Only if you trust that everything you read has a certain amount of validity and that JR is suddenly willing to spend money above and beyond expected levels. Or that there is Ishbia involvement in player payroll. Or Pope Ball is real. Just call me a Doubting Thomas when it comes to the Sox signing Imai. Even if I am wrong Im not sure what part of the story I'll actually believe, JR, Ishbia's or Pope Ball. Or maybe Ill just chalk it up to Getz Vision Quest.

I had already comped his upside to Schwarber and Thome before I saw that podcast. It took them long enough to get to the meat and potatoes portion of Kay's interview. The floor however is what kept teams away from him as we know. I'm hopeful that having a livelier ball to hit than in Japan and a willingness to adjust will be helpful in producing a minmum of 30 HR.

So youre saying my assessment of his ownership is the truth and the conclusions I drew on why it doesnt work are logical ,reasonable and accurate and devoid of any emotional narrative.

No. JR is a bad baseball owner no one has to make up s%*# to make that true. Being a bad owner doesnt mean he's stupid . I would think JR was just getting up to speed on kind of things he might need to work on. What are our analytic guys & coaches intial thoughts on how to help him become a effective MLB hitter ? Since a lot of teams didnt sign him because of holes in his swing then the Sox need a plan to turn him into our version of Thome or Schwarber wouldnt they ? Do you know the specifics of that. No ? Neither does JR. He may have intially ok'd the money but after knowing the Sox won the bidding wanted to know more about him. Doesnt that seem logical ?

Its easy enough to hold a grudge against JR. He deserves it ,but to pretend he's some kind of fool when it comes to there being advantages to signing a Japanese superstar is ludicrous. He graduated Northwestern Law School. Worked for the IRS and then went into private practice. He became known as an expert in real estate partnership tax shelters. Then he formed Balcor, a company that raised significant capital for real estate investments. After around 10 years doing that he bought the Sox in 1981 and in 1982 sold his stake in Balcor to Shearson Lehman Brothers (American Express's investment arm). He bought the Bulls in 1985. He was also the architect of giving the Ishbia's a clear path to go from a Sox minority owner to primary owner rather than them owning the Minnesota Twins. Everything JR has ever done he viewed as an investment opportunity, including the Sox which never aligned with building winning teams. He never was the kind of guy who spends money to make money. He was mostly a facilitator to get others to invest in his projects because of his vast knowledge creating real estate tax shelters. He's extremely shrewd and used tax laws to his and his investors advantage. Fans spending would usually equate to JR spending, never the other way around. That was the main problem. Sox fans were more blue collar than white collars investors. Fans and JR wanted the other one to spend 1st. It's always been a stalemate and without investing in player development they never could maintain the level of success that might have provided a strong return on investment for the fans or JR's satisfaction.

I'll accept failure with Kelenic in exchange for many many Mune-shots. Fuller might bolt the Sox for a much higher paying position if Kelenic, Mune, Colson , Teel, Quero, Baldwin, Vargas , Sosa, Meidroth and Braden Montgomery all continue progression. That would surely be akin to divine intervention. Pope Ball.