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QUOTE (bbilek1 @ Sep 10, 2013 -> 08:41 PM) While the latter is hard to prove, it is known that Belle was a dick. What caulfield had meant when he was saying "haven't we learned from Belle" was because I believe we signed him to a 5 year contract but he had opted out after 2 years. The years after those two with us he went to Baltimore and his hip fell apart and he sucked. He didnt exactly suck he just wasnt the same player . Either one of his 2 years in Baltimore would make him easily the Sox best hitter though he could barely run anymore by the end of the 2nd season . And what's there to learn ? That was a great contract because we got out of it. Also Baltimore recooped a lot of their money from insurance. Plenty of players have been dicks and still played great baseball and won World Series. Chemistry is only made as a point on losing teams to detract from how crappy most of your players are.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Sep 10, 2013 -> 06:59 PM) But, with Belle... 1) That team wasn't competitive 2) A lot of that damage was done in the 2nd half when the season was over...garbage time 3) He wasn't popular at all with fans and maybe drove some away 4) Looking at statistics alone doesn't measure the negative impact on the clubhouse chemistry-wise 5) In the end, we were quite lucky he had an out with that contract or look at the situation Baltimore ended up in with him You'll have to show me some proof that in a season of 49 Hr's 48 doubles, 152 RBI and a 1.054 OPS that " a lot " (w/e that means )was done in garbage time. Also please prove a guy who had such a monster season was unpopular with fans or that he was a negative clubhouse influence. I can say he was well liked by his team mates and the fans liked him without any proof. Also the 2 years he had with Baltimore before he retired would make him the best hitter on this year's Sox. Even in his last year he still had 37 doubles 23 HR's 103 RBI . His 1st year with Baltimore was better than his 1st year with the Sox. No one has ever had 50 50 in HR's and double except Belle and he was 2 doubles and 1 HR short of doing it with the Sox. Baltimore signed him to a 5 year contract keeping him as one of the top 3 paid players in baseball but even after he retired because of a degerative hips after 2 years Baltimore kept him on the 40 man roster and recooped most of their investment in him from insurance.

QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 10, 2013 -> 07:38 PM) My quick thoughts on Johnson: - I don't like his wind-up, as I worry about him being able to repeat his delivery - His fastball velocity was up today, which is great to see - Slider is far and away his best offspeed pitch - He needs to have better command of all of his pitches - His changeup is not MLB caliber He has a good curve. The Tiger's announcers at one point called it Verlanderesque but noted that he didn't seem to throw it much.

QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 10, 2013 -> 07:32 PM) So are the Sox trying to make Leury Garcia a right-handed hitter only? Odd that Robin pinch hits for Conor unless he thinks he was sparing him from some boos , when Conor has 2 hits off Porcello tonight . Also ,as you noted ,Leury is a switch hitter but batting RH against the RH Porcello. If you're going to send a RH up why not Semien ? Ha so now Garcia is playing 3rd and Semien 2nd.

QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Sep 10, 2013 -> 07:14 PM) Actually I found it on ESPN's stats. The Sox no.3 hitters are 13th's in the ML for GDP's which is pretty good/bad considering we're 27nd in OBP or if you prefer our leadoff hitters are 12th's in OBP and our no. 2 hitters are last in MLB and our no.9 hitters are last in the AL in OBP by a wide margin .234 for 15th place to .250 for 14th . I didn't use MLB for no. 9 hitters since the of NL teams have pitchers bat 9th most of the time . So that means in the 3 batting order spots that proceed the # 3 hitter ( 9,1, 2 ) don't get on base very much but our # 3 hitters are still have hit into the 13th most DP's in the league. So when we do have men on with less than 2 outs our # 3 hitters have hit into a higher percentage of DP's. While doing this research I've found it also supported my idea that I don't like Robin's lineups. Our # 8 hitters are 1st in the AL in battng average (.291)and OBP (.339) while our #2 hitters are last in OBP (.280)

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Sep 10, 2013 -> 06:45 PM) Three hitters, overall, hit into more DPs than any other spot. Part of Tango's research on batting order years ago. Actually I found it on ESPN's stats. The Sox no.3 hitters are 13th's in the ML for GDP's which is pretty good/bad considering we're 27nd in OBP or if you prefer our leadoff hitters are 12th's in OBP and our no. 2 hitters are last in MLB and our no.9 hitters are last in the AL in OBP by a wide margin .234 for 15th place to .250 for 14th . I didn't use MLB for no. 9 hitters since the of NL teams have pitchers bat 9th most of the time .

Oh Conor why is it the better you hit the worse you field ?

Is there a stat that shows DP's by position in the batting order ? I swear our 3 hitter's must lead the league.

QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 10, 2013 -> 05:22 PM) Technically none of these runs should be earned. Error on the umpire .

QUOTE (DirtySox @ Sep 10, 2013 -> 05:17 PM) Wow. That was a strikeout. thanks ump f***ing asshole .just what a young starter needs.

Another double for Conor.

Sales arch nemesis Victor Martinez hits 1 out. 5-1 Sox.

Swinging bunt by Phegs and throwing error by Scherzer puts Sox up 5-0. That Phegley quick stop got him to 3rd base.

My 2 fav guys Gillespie and Tank combine for a run.

Ump helping Scherzer get into a rhythm with some questionable calls while Sale walked Hunter with 2 pitches that could've been called strike 3. Gillespie with a double.

Iglesias still hitting .320 which he has been at for a long time.

QUOTE (Chilihead90 @ Sep 9, 2013 -> 06:00 PM) I feel like Phegley's goal on every groundout where he is trying to beat the throw, he is trying to stop himself as close to 1st base as he can. At least 4 or 5 times now I have seen him slow down as he approaches 1st and then come to a complete stop 5 feet past 1st. It's like he doesn't realize he can run through the base, it's weird and he is going to break an ankle stopping so hard. Love Sale dancing in the dugout over Cabrera's ejection.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Sep 8, 2013 -> 05:54 PM) El Rockin, your position on closer surprises me. I think Reed is a very good closer and much better prospect than Nate. Only thing that's going to wreck Reed is what wrecks all closers not named Rivera. For some reason they bomb after 3-4-5 years. And I guess that will happen to Reed as well. Whatever happened to Dunn's new philosophy of hitting the other way to get more hits? That's what I don't like about Dunn and a lot of hitters who say bulls*** they don't even mean. Dunn hit the other way for what? 3-5 games?? 3 months

QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 6, 2013 -> 06:37 PM) But at least they seemed to care in the Yankees series. The last two nights have been just ridiculous. Stoney and Hawk keep saying they don't want to play the younger guys because of respect to teams in a pennant race, but continuing to play the veterans is probably making it easier for the opposition to win. I had to laugh at that when they said it. This was our best lineup tonight ?

QUOTE (flavum @ Sep 6, 2013 -> 06:20 PM) Orioles are still in it and are at home. They'll get the calls. Thanl goodness for instant replay when it comes. Camera's are impartial.

I'm sickened by bad umpiring. Exact same looking play at 1st and the ump called the Oriole safe (which he was) and the White Sox ( Viciedo) out (which he wasn't). Stone talked to Jim Palmer between innings and Palmer asked him "What did you guys do to the umps " ?

QUOTE (Chet Kincaid @ Sep 6, 2013 -> 05:40 PM) Do you guys want Keppinger back next year? I wouldn't mind if he got traded. I like him as a backup.

Robin's love for Keppinger 3rd or 6th constantly putting him in the middle of the line up is irksome. Seems like he prefers the vets just as much as Ozzie did.

Semien looks like Lance Johnson.

QUOTE (Soxfest @ Sep 4, 2013 -> 06:50 PM) Always has got every borderline call. When it even catches the blackest of the black give him a strike at least 2 pitches last night and 2 tonight can't be called strikes. A legend has to throw strikes like everyone else.