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Somewhat surprising there want even one but not really. Thought there might be a pitcher. I think Lesko was a top 100 guy (#76) but sliding downward. Maybe he wasn't on BA Top 100 though. Figured if there were any traded it would be pitcher,catcher or 1st basemen. There aren't that many teams who have the confidence like Tampa Bay in their scouting and development to take prospects outside the top 100 or Lesko who was having huge problems throwing strikes.

Sometimes you are denser than peanut butter. I outlined why way before that happened why he was least likely to be traded than Robert. Sure that hurt but there were reports he wanted an extension from the Sox already out there. Wanting one from a team he'd be traded to with no guarantee they'd treat him like the Sox did was him protecting himself from being exploited. There wasn't going to be many serious suitors for him regardless because they already knew he'd be unlikely to pitch in the off-season and he didn't want to pitch in relief. Pretty simple. Don't blame me that you couldn't follow that train of thought.

I was torn .I had a feeling it was going to be Smith when I saw who was available knowing he was a very good LH pitcher which seems to be their forte. Cags was a fun idea as a pick. Big bat big personality , initially ranked higher than Smith but that doesn't mean too much right now.

From who and for what ? I told you 3 weeks ago neither Robert or Crochet were being moved by the deadline.

It makes all the sense in the world to me. He was hired to do exactly what he's doing. Getz the Pet. There's only one reason for JR to fire Getz and that's to shift focus away from him and make Getz the fall guy by pretending he still gives a damn about winning. But JR is usually more loyal to his Pets. He's all probably let him Stay Getzy boy stay ! Good Getzy !

Touche.

If we ever get the full details I'm guessing the whole buyout to get the prospect.

Yes it would which is why I don't believe it. Unless of course JR is eyeing Benintendi and Roberts remaining contract obligation as obstacles. We shall see if JR lengthens or shortens his leash on Getz the Pet. I suspect JR to do just enough to avoid getting on Manfred's radar so something similar to this year, maybe 1 or 2 better contracts than Fedde got this year. Nothing longer than 2 years.

Oh you poor diluted soul.You actually are pretending Jerry cares .That's adorable. In a twisted way it makes me thinkk JR is ill and the countdown has begun to The big sell. US Sellular Field.

Oh I got it ! I got it ! Eloy is an experiment. If their development people can raise Eloy from the dead and change his stance, make him hit fly balls and keep him healthier they will know they are bathing in the light of the goodness of the baseball gods. It's just too bad the gods frown upon being tested in such a way . It's a sign you are getting greedy ,tempting your fate and they shall suffer for it.

If you see the Sox spend anything next year it'll just be an upgrade from $1- $5M slugs to $6-12M slugs. That won't make them any more likely to succeed . It's just more expensive window dressing picked by a guy handpicked to fail by our magnanimous owner. Unless JR fires Getz to make it appear he's not happy about the terrible reason. But JR is usually loyal to his pets.

Thank you for your participation watching the demise of our franchise as the fans desperately clawed at the Orioles prospects while the O's continued to make smart baseball decisions until now . Never bring over a cursed player from a loser franchise. I'll say I'm sorry for the current group of Os fans that they will never see a Championship with all your wonderful position player prosects but thank you and your franchise for throwing the Sox a bone even though you have unwittingly doomed yourselves.

You actually think one is separate from the other ? The awful roster is a result of JR slashing payroll and using Getz to execute his wishes. You may have kept telling everyone the franchise is losing money but how is it JR has so many big plans going forward with the whole planned partnership wih the Wirtz family to build his sport conglomerate with the Bulls and Blackhawks while preparing the Sox to be sold. This is all JRs I'll be exiting the world soon strategy for his heirs. He's smart enough to legally cook his books to show massive losses while at the same time funnel money into his projects. And you wonder why Getz get can't get any good trades done. He's not getting any good offers. The Sox are bleeding among a huge school of piranhas. Hire inexperienced GM to execute his plan and tell the world it's to expedient the return to competence. The whole time that was BS. The Reinsdorfs of the future will stricty own the Bulls. Just have to wait and see if baseball is really interested in keeping the franchise in Chicago as much as some seem to think. By the time this whole plan is executed the whole country may be in bigger economic turmoil more than it is now. The divide between the haves and have nots is deepening.

Caulfield I hope you are ok. I think you should relax and take it easy. I believe you buddy. I do think there is a slight chance you have mistaken Robert, Jr for Robinson. Sounds like your meds are a little strong. The outburst is not like you. Edit: Apparently you were right but very few people saw it.

Losing time !

I love WSDave's article. Best, most honest interpretation of what's going on. As I've said a few times. Getz and the Sox were like a crackhead trying to sell expensive items stolen to support their addiction going from pawn shop to pawn shop getting low balled everywhere. And if true passed up deals in their own division for no apparent reason.

Just saw the Sox were up 5-2 headed into the 8th so thought I'd find the game on my PC and see how they will blow it. 1st thing I see is the back 2 back HRs by Renfroe and Melendez ?

JR of today and the last few years is a JR preparing his money and legacy to live on through his heirs by investing in the area around the UC partnering with the Wirtz family. The JR of today has flat out said the Sox cannot compete at their current location because the area around it is not the sorts mega complex luxury mall , urban paradise needed to do that. The Sox will be sold by his heirs . The Bulls will be kept and all three will be on his new network deal if he can manage to get that off the ground. The Sox are now only worth minimal attention and investment and the bare minimum to keep Manfred off his ass. The rest of baseball smells blood in the water and are treating Getz accordingly. The only thing keeping the Sox from getting terrible offers on Fedde is competition from other teams but even then Baltimore took Eflin who had bigger money owed to him ($18M in 2025) and dealt with a division rival over Fedde and the White Sox. They traded with the contending Phillies by trading Hays to fill their Relief pitching (Seranthony Dominguez) and Defensive OF / PR role with Pache while counting on Cowser/ Kjerstad/Pache to replace Hays and the slumping Mullins . It's possible the Orioles and Phillies could face each other in the World Series while helping each other get there . All the Orioles trade pieces to the Rays for Eflin were all from the 2023 draft. So they took on the higher money owed Eflin ($18M in 2025) rather than give up the higher headlining prospect for Fedde. They also risked those 3 players contributing to TB teams that are possibly better than future Orioles teams.

It doesn't necessarily have to be the whole $50M

Because you keep talking about Getz and Getz supporters . So you don't seem to understand once again there are no Getz supporters only those who see Getz as nothing more than a twig on the Redwood that is Jerry Reinsdorf.

Could it possibly be that other GMs because of Jerry crying poor are treating Getz like a crackhead trying to sell a Rolex in a pawn ship ? The offers for good returns are just not forthcoming. They may seem like easy trades but I'm almost certain there's going to be a lot of complaints about the return when those trades are made . More and more were seeing a team like Baltimore try to sell off its expiring parts like Hayes , Mullins , Mountcastle or Santander to bring up their youth. That goes along with a lot of talk around baseball of contending teams light in one area trading with other lesser contenders strong in certain areas trading 26 man roster pieces kind of like how the Cubs got Paredes. Morel lessened the prospects they'd have to give up.

You still don't understand that if Benintendi is attached it's because of Reinsdorf. How can you not understand yet that Getz is a pawn on JRs chess board. How is that not plain to you yet ?

I thought that too until I came to the conclusion that JR isn't treating the Sox like a baseball team that should be doing things to get better but more like a company that will be sold to finance his other ventures which will be in the hand of his heirs once he passes. Benitendi is a debt that needs to be removed.

Works the c*** to 3-1 then proceeds to swing and miss on 2 straight out of the zone pitchers. WTH Luis ?

It's a nice return for a reief pitcher but doesn't look like the kind of return that would entice the Sox for Fedde. Lesko has promise but Padres probably not enamored with his results thus far. Also a pitcher and catcher in the return which seems to be a running theme in prospects given up in many trades. Tough to pry high level INF and OF prospects as a headliner and Getz has to be stressing that. All 3 players A+ and lower level guys