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You know what bothers me. We keep getting all kinds of arguments who has the potential to be great,among Robert, Eloy, Moncada and now Vaughn and every year Abreu and Anderson turns out to be our best hitters. A couple of those dudes have to step up and stop getting injured. No one would be freaking out over missing out on a few players to make the team better if those guys start playing like we think think should. People last year didn't want to trade Vaughn, Kopech and Crochet. We are waiting on an awful lot of potential. I know they haven't been around long and are still young but someone please step up.

Usually when you trade for a TOR starter you have to give up a pitcher with TOR potential. That would be Kopech+++

Well he did say trade for a TOR starter . That might take Vaughn and Sheets though I would imagine teams not real anxious for2 DH's for a TOR starter.

There are those here who think he'll get more than Marte so ....there's $22M wiggle room between $78M and $100M

While I always lean toward the Sox not spending how would you feel if the Sox spent $100M on Conforto ?

Savages ?

Maybe Sox sneak in the Gausman talks , that one not finished yet. LOL

Love deals like that for always injured guys, fill em up with incentives.

Yanks and Red Sox checked in recently and found out Semien's asking in the $200M range.

Mainly because hitter's can't see at Tropicana

Gausman deal could be done today with Morosi saying Jays are a finalist. MLBTR takes a stab at other teams involved " it isn’t known how many other teams are also still in the running. The Jays, Giants, Angels, Red Sox, Mets, and Mariners have all been linked to Gausman’s market at various points this winter." Looking increasingly unlikely that Marcus Semien signs before Dec. 1st. Yankees and Red Sox both indicating that a $200M+ asking price is too high. (Boras is his agent.) If Boras asking prices are high it's also unlikely we see an early deal on Michael Conforto. Owners could be thinking the SS market is saturated with too many high priced options with too few teams willing to pay and wait that market out. Cory Seager was also said to be interested in signing early is in the $300M stratosphere so that also seems unlikely. The Semien asking price makes it a long shot the White Sox get involved at least this early.

Good luck Mr. Marshall.

Outside of being lefty and costing $8M those numbers sound suspiciously like some guy who was injured that got traded.

Foulke it.

Must have broken it using "entitlement."

Told you nothing would happen while you were away.

Another RP off the market.

That was a downright skillful use of the English language and quite humble while feigning arrogance.

That didn't convince many here he was healthy. While I agree a showcase is unlikely ,if Boras thinks it will help ,you never know.

No idea what gets it done but I would hope a Rodon and Conforto contract are both in that range though others think the Conforto price could exceed Martes contract. Any other year signing now would be super early but since Dec 1 is the deadline it's spurring some activity. There's little possibility Rodon signs early. He has to rest his arm and he might even end up having a showcase later on. It would help a lot to show him healthy but way too soon after the season for that. Only way I can see him signing early is he gets 3 years or more over $50M.

HAHA ! Momma giving you a time out . Don't give the Sox a second thought, I'm sure nothing will happen.

I'll stick with what I said. JV is 39 and coming off TJ . I'm just thinking not to expect a workhorse yr from him in 2022. That's pretty high risk even for a guy like JV. Thor also pretty high risk since he's coming off 2 years off. Rodon I'll also classify as high risk but most of those predicting his contract have him getting a multiple year offer. There is one I have seen at 1/$25 others 3 , 4 or 5 years from anywhere from $45-75M. If I had to predict who would pitch more innings this year of the 3 I'll stick with Rodon. But I'll honestly say it's a tossup given their ages and recent histories of non pitching and injuries. Don't know if Carlos will beat the Verlander contract but being 10 yrs younger I'd make the odds even.

The last line could definitely be true and I'll throw in there that the Phil's offers could've started very low wanting the Sox to take problem child Gregorius off their hands.

I've read rumblings of Cory Seager, Semien and Gausman seem like good candidates to sign before Dec.1, most of it from Heyman. I don't know how logical it is with some thinking Seager gets $300M.

I was being funny.