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I thought that this would be a fun thread not like every other thread. This was a chance to be silly. Who gives a fig if you don't like Keuchel or Lynn upon hearing it for the 100th time or that you like Giolito . So Moncada, Giolito, a 5 tool CF uber prospect perform well . The sun will rise in the morning . BOLD !

This is going so well. Yoan Moncada is going to be great. So bold that 5 people have said it already. Boring ! Show a funny bone for chrissakes ! Kylle props for Ron joke.

I like it ! Let's hear about this appearance.

I didn't question you unceasingly on your stance . They just aren't bold according to Balta's criteria. Also unless Vaughn is extended very soon . I will be right about that too that an extension wouldn't be coming before Opening Day.

If the idea is to make a bold, outlandish type prediction why would someone expect to be agreed with from anyone ?

1/4 of the posts don't qualify. Hendricks leading the lead in saves and Bummer leading in holds ? Timmy being MVP and Moncada top 5 in MVP just to name a few. Timmy came in 5th last year in MVP votes and Moncada got MVP votes in 2019. We got some wet noodle ideas about the definition of bold even after your qualifier.

96 and 1st. Pitching leads the way.

Sox win the World Series by beating the Padres 4 games to none !! Tatis and Machado are held hitless . Reinsdorf gives Soxtalk the finger !

No problem son.

No apology necessary in my case. I try to never believe rumors. I was thinking like the Sox probably were and others thinking it was likely to happen . An extension for a guy who only completed a low level of the minors would be pretty unprecedented and I doubted the Sox would have offered much because of that despite the high praise he got in summer camp. I just thought he was going to get low balled.

A few exhibition games is hardly room to gloat. He looked just as amazing in an intrasquad game last year. A full season worth of good pitching would help the Sox immensely. Don't get too carried away with what you think you know and the same applies to Jack.

That's actually true in a lot of cases. I've been a Sox fan for many years and follow the team very closely. I willingly admit there are people who follow college baseball and the draft a lot more than I do. I learn a lot about modern stats and trust the offensive ones more than the defensive ones or pitch framing due to my own investigations on them but also know there are some I do not fully grasp. Stat- Cast is also very good and not just for how far HR's travel. People also being people will use one or 2 stats to support an argument but many have to be taken into consideration in order to get a complete picture. Being a message board people also make arguments in short bursts so lengthy posts are deemed unreadable though a much longer argument may make more sense to the reader to fully grasp the others opinion. It's best to keep an open mind instead of planting the roots of your knowledge so deeply in the ground. We can all learn from each other.

No offense Lillian but stats from 4 and 5 years ago really have nothing to do with the player he is now . But he may still make the team. Seems as though the Sox want to have more power and LH vets on the bench which in theory is a good idea for late inning heroics. All we can hope is that it works in execution as much as it does in theory.

Injured March 21st and they said a couple of weeks at least so I'm hoping for 2 or 2 1/2 weeks.

No he's a ground ball pitcher ! But yea Cease seems like the one who might be the pitcher to show Vaughn the most action in LF.

I think he's back before then possibly the 1st week of April.

Wouldn't be much of a message board if we didn't have 2 opposing sides

I also voted Vaughn for the same reasons but also like you don't know what to make of Vaughn either. I'd definitely prefer him as a 1B/DH . His plate discipline is a big plus but he's going to K a lot too.

All else being equal I would expect Vaughn to draw more walks than Engel. Power encompasses many categories including total bases ,slugging , OPS ,OPS + wRc, HR's doubles and triples ,where you hit in the lineup etc. Yes walks encompass a lot of those things too but do walks and Vaughns defense make him a better choice than Engel out there ? We will find out . Apparently you choose to be snarky with me based on one thing I said and not the overall content of my message which was echoed by bmags . Try at least to stay on topic with who might play the most in the OF in the absence of Eloy unless you are afraid you might be wrong. I have my opinion and you have yours but one of us remained civil on the topic until you decided to be an asshole.

I don't think you are wrong. It's a realistic view. It's your opinion grounded in fact. Eloy was poised for a huge year. Now we get more uncertainties playing more with Collins , Vaughn , Yermin and whoever else might make the team who wasn't on it last year. Really hoping the pitching carries the team and the aforementioned untested guys can prove more valuable than EE,and Mazara and Moncada himself from last year.

Agree to disagree. Despite the K's and lack of walks (he doesn't walk much period) the batting average, slugging and OPS , OPS+ and wRC were all good. Again I am not advocating putting him in starting lineup permanently . Just saying he has indeed improved every year as a hitter and IF it continues he's a much better choice to get OF time than Williams, Hamilton or if Vaughn isn't up to the task of defending the position or needs more time in the minors as a hitter. Just about anyone you put out there among the in house options will probably have a high K rate. Vaughn would draw more walks to be sure but he is nowhere close to the speed and defensive capabilities of Engel. At this point in time Engel may be the equal of Vaughn as a hitter except for OBP. That may sound outlandish but we don't have much to go on currently.

I wouldn't say never since in 2020 he was actually better against RHP than LHP. Small sample size of course but its is indicative of how he has improved as a hitter.

It is good news. Need some power on the bench and at DH to replace lost HR's and extra base hits by Eloy while giving Collins and Yermin chances to help the club and increase their value. Nothing was gained by keeping Lucroy . Everyone believed the hype that Lucroy was preferred and maybe he was before the injury to Eloy so maybe it turns into a blessing in disguise . Good luck Vaughn, Collins and Yermin !

Every year he has been with the Sox he has been better than the year before. Even though the sample size was small in 2020 if he could sustain that for a full season he would be the front runner easily . Good extra base power, speed and defense . No one really trusts him to be that good but maybe he can be . Wouldn't be the 1st time someone has been a late bloomer. Good defense and good offense is always very attractive .

Is everyone just assuming Vaughn will hit and also make the team Opening Day ? Was there an official announcement saying Vaughn is on the 40 man roster now ?