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No matter if Brady does his Brady thing . Eagles still beat the spread so I'm good. Wait turnover ? Eagles ball !

QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Feb 4, 2018 -> 06:59 PM) Can this one be overturned ? He ran with the ball 5 yards before he passed the goal line . As I thought TD !

Can this one be overturned ? He ran with the ball 5 yards before he passed the goal line .

Have the Pat's had a single penalty called on them yet ?

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Feb 4, 2018 -> 06:03 PM) Based on all the calls this season that wasn't a catch. I think it was an obvious catch. I do too. He had the ball just adjusted his grip on it not because it was coming loose .

Ok Ill be that guy , that old rock and roller who has really enjoyed halftimes of the past but JT has always seemed to be more style than substance.

QUOTE (ChiliIrishHammock24 @ Feb 4, 2018 -> 12:47 PM) Obviously rooting for then Eagles (despite being a Cowboys fan), because I'm A GOD DAMN AMERICAN. But above all, I'm rooting for my squares. Eevn the squares gotta be exciting with all the missed conversions.

Very entertaining SB . Lots of big plays , missed conversions and gimmick plays.

Oh yea Alshon then TD !

Nice grab Alshon !

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 25, 2018 -> 08:03 AM) I know this team is missing the grit of Marian Hossa, but they just look like they aren't playing as hard this year. They are more sloppy and less grindy than they have been in the past. I don't know what the cause of it is, but they don't really like getting dirty anymore. Not only that but Saad, Anisimov and Towes are't scoring any goals at all in the last 10-11 games. That's a lot of periods for those 3 not to be scoring.And they are sloppier than hell turning the puck over constantly. At least Schmaltz, DeBrincat and Hinestoza have picked up some of the slack. And defense has to be near the bottom in goal scoring per team. That's a big thing . A few goals from the D could open up the wingers more.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Feb 3, 2018 -> 02:44 PM) I will root against the Patriots and I will again be disappointed. Rooting for the Eagles outright but definitely against the spread.

QUOTE (GermanSock @ Jan 29, 2018 -> 12:58 AM) It doesn't work for every guy of course but I think it is no coincidence that we see more late breakout players and almost all of them have gotten input from sources outside the game. Here is s list of guys of that mold -justin Turner -daniel Murphy -josh Donaldson -chris Taylor -aaron judge (he recently credited a guy I know from the internet for his success - the the dude is a giant asshole who insults anyone and got banned from about every forum but apparently he worked with judge, kingery and ian happ who all had great years) Sure it is no guarantee that it works, but conventional hitting coaching basically has a play it save and don't ruin the top guys philosophy. Now that's a guy who Avi needs to talk to or his hitting coach. The guy had 1 career HR before he fixed his swing to get more loft.

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Feb 2, 2018 -> 12:16 PM) Collins is also younger. Some similar stats this year though. Collins at High A: 130 wRC+, .367 wOBA Collins at AA: 166 wRC+, .414 wOBA 19 homers Zavala at A: 139 wRC+, .376 wOBA Zavala at High A: 145 wRC+, .387 wOBA 21 homers It will be interesting to see them both at Birmingham together. That may be the most interesting thing of the MiLB season watching Collins and Zavala play. One of them is going to be the future Sox catcher and I have no idea who.

QUOTE (wrathofhahn @ Jan 31, 2018 -> 11:33 AM) We need to stop pretending that these things don't happen they do. It's uncommon but it happens. I named five players in my other post who had magical Avi like seasons. Then completely fell off a cliff. Thats not to say I don't think it has to happen in Avi case because the talent is there but he can't build off last season. He needs to work getting under the ball and driving it. He needs to be more selective at the plate. If he wants to have a really good season again. If he wants to hit with a .750 ish OPS he can do what he's already doing and if a couple things go right instead of everything like last year he can have an ok year. Prior to last year he had an BABIP of somewhere around .320. To give you some perspective of the difference BABIP makes had his BABIP been his normal averages after crunching the numbers he'd be batting .253 last season which would have dropped his OPS 77 points. All these arguments were going on when Avi sucked and everyone thought and wanted him to be non tendered only now he has a few more supporters because hitters constantly break out and hitters also fall off a cliff after supposedly breaking out, Avi did what he had to do in order to break out. He put in the work. He will stay in shape and we will see how he plays. One thing we know for sure. no one can predict the future no matter what the stats or the eye test tells us. but some of us will be right and claiming victory and I'd much rather be right or wrong predicting success rather than failure.

QUOTE (zisk @ Jan 31, 2018 -> 09:39 AM) I was 15 in 1977 and to this day, it was the best season of baseball in my life. 1972 and 2005 tie for second. After watching Deron Johnson,Bill Melton,Jorge Orta and Jim Spencer take turns hitting clean up for 2 years, "The SS Hit Men" were just what we needed. I was a few years older and you are right . The Souyh Side Hit Men was a really fun time in Sox history and Gamble and ZisK were at the core of it. RIP OG. For those of you too young to know here's an article https://www.thenationalpastimemuseum.com/ar...uth-side-hitmen

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jan 31, 2018 -> 05:39 AM) First, let me give you credit about Avi. He actually got better last year and became a better player. You believed in him and deserve credit for that. Having said that, no one can sustain a .392 BABIP. It’s not about an over reliance on advanced metrics, it’s based on actual historical evidence. The highest career BABIPs (by some truly amazing players no less) come in around .350. Do you actually believe Avi is going to continue to be better than the best ever by a good 40 points? It’s not going to happen. His batting average is most definitely going to regress some. Having said that, I think he can still maintain an incredibly high BABIP and remain a .290ish hitter. And that’s fantastic IMO. The real question is can he add power or improve his plate discipline. That’s what will truly define a breakout. I honestly don’t see any reason to believe his plate discipline will improve by any significant margin at this point, but the power theoretically could. If it does he could be a damn good RF like he was in 2017, otherwise he’s probably league average at best. I personally don’t think adding loft is a simple task, but I’m more than willing to give him a shot this coming year because his fielding & base-running are no longer huge value drains and he’s got a non-zero chance of being a star. You spend your whole 1st paragraph explaining to me how his BABIP will regress when I already clearly stated I think it will too. While his walk rate was rather static his K rate was the best of his career. I believe it was 17.9 %. The one area he improved dramatically on was contact within the strike zone. . Now I am not using some O zone stat for that . I basically just used the hot zone graphics that indicate how well he hit in the strike zone and Avi basically hit well in the whole strike zone when in the past there were areas of the plate usually 4 out of the 9 divisions the plate is divided into that Avi didn't hit well. In 2017 it was basically only one part of the plate that he didn't hit well. He was making more and better contact within the strike zone. Maybe because he was in better shape his swing loosened up , maybe it got a touch quicker. Maybe his knowledge of how pitchers were approaching him got better . Maybe it was all of the above. These are things you cannot measure . If you have good eyesight and are physically gifted with good reflexes and hand eye coordination the one thing that prevents many players from developing is the ability to think along with the pitcher. In what counts should you expect a fastball, a slider a curve a change etc depending on the pitchers repertoire? What can you learn by looking at the fielders ? Has the 3rd baseman crept closer to 3rd when its not the late innings thus indicating a pitch you might be able to pull ( for a RH hitter). It's a game of nuances and subtleties. The best hitters are smart hitters to go along with their physical gifts.

QUOTE (Dam8610 @ Jan 30, 2018 -> 07:55 PM) Explain how the advanced stats scream regression without using the acronym "BABIP". That's the only one that is strongly favoring negative regression, and other advanced metrics point to the possibility of positive regression in both power and plate discipline. If he puts up a .290/.360/.540 line, is he any less valuable? Because I could see that based on his 2017 numbers factoring negative BABIP regression with positive regression in the power and plate discipline categories. Personally while I believe in advanced stats to a degree there is an over reliance on them.Baseball Common Sense 101 tells me when you hit .330 you did a lot right and just didn't get lucky. While I will have to agree that his batting average is likely to regress because of a large number of infield hits it wasn't just luck . I think we forget baseball takes a large amount of skill to get hits and all this talk about his numbers declining to pre 2017 is just people hedging their bets playing the odds that previous bad seasons still outweigh the 1 good one. Why can't the Sox have a player who breaks out in a big way ? Happens all the time. The only way to get a feel for a player is to watch a lot of games. I don't mean 1/2 the games I mean at least 75% and watch what the player is doing up there in the batters box. There's a lot to be said for actually watching/studying baseball.

QUOTE (steveno89 @ Jan 30, 2018 -> 06:01 AM) I second that^ If Avi puts up a crazy season like that he will certainly look to get paid huge money in free agency, and likely not from us. I know great seasons and the lure of big money makes players forget earlier statements about staying with their current team but Avi has said he'd like to stay with the Sox "forever". ( Abreu has made similar statements). If Avi continues on an upward path like still hitting .300 but increasing HR to the 25-35 range and is somehow not traded he will be come the face of the franchise and a beloved player. I know many still think his production last year was a mirage and have a really difficult time wrapping their head around Avi becoming an actual superstar but it could happen. Avi and Eloy manning the corners as the cornerstones of the Sox . Avi the savvy veteran and the Kid. Dream big or don't dream at all .

QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Jan 29, 2018 -> 12:16 PM) I see basically no scenario that Avi is here for the "long haul". No scenario ? What if he hits 40HR's, OBP is .400, OPS 1.000, SLG .600 while playing decent D and throwing out 20 base runners ? That a scenario.

QUOTE (bmags @ Jan 29, 2018 -> 07:05 AM) Throughout this offseason we have had numerous freakouts that the sox were going to take a hit from their rebuild coffers for short-term gains. Yet none of those moves happened, and all we've done is sign miguel gonzalez and wellington castillo. The best prospect we traded was Jake Peter. I think at this point I feel safe in saying they are going through with the rebuild. They I'm sure are calling people but at this point, you have to believe more than anything the white sox are a team others are using as leverage in the trade process. I agree. Rick is doing his due diligence , making calls etc maybe hoping to fall into a good deal . You never know maybe some team would be interested in pieces the Sox would be willing to move like Yolmer, Leury Davidson, Willy Garcia, Delmonico or others on the fringe , of which we have plenty.

QUOTE (raBBit @ Jan 28, 2018 -> 12:33 PM) Thanks guys but probably not going to be putting much time into it unfortunately. Well you probably have schoolwork or something and it might not be your 1st priority but it should be near the top. You have a good camera presence , good knowledge and best of all can express that knowledge in a clear precise and unhesitating manner. I could easily see you doing this on the MLB network as the Sox rep just like Dan Hayes did and unfortunatly Phil Rogers still does. You should get an agent if you don't have one. You already have a decent resume with written, in the field work and in front of the camera. If you would like to continue in the sports field and wish to hear more you can message me. I don't have any "ins" in the field or anything but I have a few more suggestions for in front of the camera work that I wouldn't want to put here.

QUOTE (cjgalloway @ Jan 27, 2018 -> 08:50 AM) Is the banner seen as bad luck? Sorry I'm new-ish here No . not at all,as far as I know and I've been around here a long time.

QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Feb 25, 2017 -> 06:06 PM) If Rodon gets a shoulder injury I am blaming you ! On a serious note , great job, Q and Kalapse FTW . Well guess I have to blame Kalapse for this. http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseb...0928-story.html

Anyone with knowledge of the system can answer this. Would you say that the current group of position player prospects and their success or lack thereof would be an indicator to evaluate those who develop that talent ? I'm just curious with our lack of success in recent years with position player prospects and with changes made to the system if any one truly thinks the Sox have what it takes to develop these players or even draft well enough and recognize talent that basically just develops on its own.