Everything posted by CaliSoxFanViaSWside
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Sox Crush Blue Jays winners thread
QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jun 17, 2017 -> 05:24 AM) After winning 4 of 5, they are on a pace to win between 73 and 74 games. The team sucks. Parts will proabably be sold off, and more losing will occur. Reality is they have no chance this year even with others playing as bad as they can play and the White Sox playing better than anyone could have imagined. But for the most part, they are far more interesting to watch than I was anticipating. It will get a lot more interesting once we see who they trade and who they call up. With a ton of home games left it would be really wild if the Sox somehow stayed in contention. It's possible but depends who they trade. If they wreck the bullpen things will get a lot worse. That great record when leading after 6 innings will plummet. What is it now 24-0 when leading after 6 ?
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Cafardo: Cardinals interested in Avi
QUOTE (greg775 @ Jun 17, 2017 -> 09:12 PM) He's 26 years old. This might be the real Avi. Wow. I'm assuming you are high on all the minor leaguers that are projected to be good someday. You like anybody on the big league roster not named Anderson? Exactly. Tough tough crowd. It's mid June and he's got a ton of RBI and hitting .325. Congrats, Avi. Keep it up, sir. .337 now and recently was .343 .
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Cafardo: Cardinals interested in Avi
QUOTE (ChiliIrishHammock24 @ Jun 17, 2017 -> 08:53 PM) I haven't gotten to watch as many games this year as I have in previous years, but I don't see anything that stands out. Hmm I don't know that .458 batting average against left handers that leads the league doesn't stand out to you ? How about that he's also leading the league in 3 hit games ? Any way so what kind of bet can we make about him finishing at .300 ?
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Game Day from Toronto June 17th at 12:07 PM CDT
QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Jun 17, 2017 -> 05:44 PM) The Sox have the 14th best RD in MLB. That only accelerates the rebuild. Guys that you'd like to produce either for trade or long term value -- they are. Davidson probably isn't a MLB regular but he could certainly be a guy you have 200-300 PA a year to while backing up 1B/LF/3B/DH, mostly against LHP. If he can hit .250 in MLB despite his K rate. He's a keeper. The power is there. It appears the Sox have good organizational depth in the IF now. Really good actually, especially for the Sox. 12 of his HR's are against righties and he's hitting .250 against them with a .573 SLG and .860 OPS . I'd say that's good enough to be a regular.
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Sox Crush Blue Jays winners thread
Nice to see Q get run support.
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Most Surprising White Sox performance in 17?
I'm Happy with Avi since I was one of the few to see hope for him and Leury is my AAP so it's all good.
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SSS Theater: Avi Garcia
Avi 27/59 against left handers . Leading the league with a mind boggling .458 average. Also .661 slg. and 1.136 OPS . Also batting .306 against righties.
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AND THATS A WHITE SOX WINNER!!!
QUOTE (hi8is @ Jun 13, 2017 -> 10:55 PM) And it sucks Doesn't suck at all . Despite all the K's Davidson is hitting better than Frazier. Not sold on him as a better fielder though. Avi with another 2 RBI and Holland stopping his bad starts streak so helped the trade value.
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Orioles vs White Sox 7:10 Pm
That was CRUSHED by Davidson .
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Orioles vs White Sox 7:10 Pm
QUOTE (Thad Bosley @ Jun 13, 2017 -> 06:28 PM) Avi just continues to pour it on! 2-1 Sox He hasn't started regressing yet . He's been fairly consistent. Every time his BA gets around .325 he bumps it right back up into the .330's and another hit today might make it to .340 .
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6/12 Games
QUOTE (bmags @ Jun 12, 2017 -> 06:43 PM) Booker a 4 hit game with a homer I really like that kid.
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Nationals acquire Doolittle/Madson from As
Lost another one. Matt Albers gives up a HR to ... wait for it...Tyler Flowers.
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June 12th Game Thread: White Sox vs. Baltimore Orioles
QUOTE (bmags @ Jun 12, 2017 -> 07:47 PM) Davidson bomb! Should be interesting to see who ends up leading the Sox in HR's this year. Davidson has 11 , ABreu, Frazier, and Avi with 10. Infante bombed now 10-6 .
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June 12th Game Thread: White Sox vs. Baltimore Orioles
Ok I'll say it when no one is paying attention. Avi is a beast ! Happy 26th birthday Avi ! 2/3 3 RBI BA now .336 And now a stolen base.
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Sox claim Alen Hanson
QUOTE (flavum @ Jun 9, 2017 -> 12:53 PM) Hanson isn't on the lineup card. They may get a day or two buffer zone with the active roster. Could this have anything to do with Moncada possibly going back on the DL ?
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SSS Theater: Avi Garcia
QUOTE (Lemon_44 @ Jun 9, 2017 -> 05:34 AM) The stat geeks have ruined this site for me. Why not just sit back, relax, and enjoy the fact that he's having a tremendous season. Instead there's adjusted contact rate stats, ground ball average and peripherals. Why even play the games? Just use fangraphs, war, and any other made up stat to determine the winner through a computer. It seems like every thread deteriorates into a discussion about WAR, peripherals, fip, xfip, or some other random stat. I understand what you mean because I am as old school as it gets. It's all just part of the fun discussions about predictability. Weather you use advanced stats or not the consensus on Avi was he sucked at pretty much everything. Now an old school guy like me who has observed baseball for years could see Avi had some real tools that he just wasn't bringing to the surface and had plenty of chances without showing much improvement using the eye test or advanced stats. I will admit that half of me is always optimistic a young player will turn it around while others given the large sample size of badness declared Avi a bust . At every turn I'd argue against these conclusions but I easily could've been wrong . The advanced stats just give the arguments merit for those who believe in them and statistically and mathematically many of those stats are valid. Despite all that sometimes things just click. A change in stance along with weight loss , a newer mental approach those are things the stats cannot take into consideration . All they do is show tendencies and if the peripherals stay the same the player is a failure . The trouble is there are now so many peripherals and ways to look at a player that many times a stat geek can overlook things or become focused on just a handful of stats to make their assessment. Last year I saw signs Avi was improving in fielding and that he was just about the Sox best hitter with RISP . Also when he made contact he hit the ball really hard and hit some monster HR's. I also suggested he lose weight near the end of last year because he looked stiff through his upper body and thought he had lost a step. It's important to observe the game closely to make keen observations if I am going to argue with these mathematicians. Luckily I love White Sox baseball so much I can always hope for the best and also, with somewhat rose colored, glasses make my own observations. The stats guy just make it very challenging to discuss baseball , but I'm here to discuss baseball so in the end it makes discussions better even if the stats guys are just a little too trusting of every new stat that comes along. Remember us old guys used stats too but they were batting average, RBI's, ERA and whatever was on the back of a baseball card. Fangraphs is just a huge baseball card for the new generation.
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SSS Theater: Avi Garcia
QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Jun 7, 2017 -> 06:21 AM) http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/2017-top-al...act-performers/ I wish I knew what you are saying. Just posting Fangraphs stuff tells me nothing about how you feel. Take for example the exceedingly good luck on ground balls. The last few games where where he got his BA back into the .330's. He hit some lasers on the ground. So hard they whizzed by the fielders. Also his hustle and speed has earned him more than his fair share of infield hits. Is that lucky? Perhaps somewhat catching fielders unaware to just how fast he is getting down the line. Maybe they will be more awake for Avi's hustle next time. Avi got a double on a grounder that went to the 3rd baseman's left. That's right, in the hole between 3rd and short . It was hit so fast the left fielder ran it down near the warning track and Avi easily made it to 2nd . Fangraphs is fine for telling you things about stats but they don't look at every individual AB like I do. There has to be a balance between what the stats say and what you actually see the player do.
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SSS Theater: Avi Garcia
QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Jun 5, 2017 -> 10:23 PM) That's being generous, you could've said below .170 and you still would've been right! So you're saying Schwarber could be Pedro Alvarez.
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Worth a WHITE SOX WINNER Postgamer
QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jun 6, 2017 -> 09:18 PM) It's really strange, it takes a little left hand turn as it's coming down. You would think a major league park would have more than one angle to see it They say it hit a catwalk.
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Worth a WHITE SOX WINNER Postgamer
QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Jun 6, 2017 -> 10:38 PM) That Avi HR was a bomb .Had to be at least 450 and Frazier's slightly less . Eh Statcast says 434 but it hit the black tarp over the deepest seats in lower deck before bouncing back toward the field. Ok it hit the facing of the 2nd deck even more impressive.
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Worth a WHITE SOX WINNER Postgamer
That Avi HR was a bomb .Had to be at least 450 and Frazier's slightly less .
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Avi Garcia 5th in ASG voting
QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 6, 2017 -> 03:41 PM) He goes as a starter, and then the manager of the team replaces him. Soxtalk won't vote for him unless he's in that final vote thing
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Hawk to retire at the end of 2018 season
QUOTE (JoeCredeYes @ May 31, 2017 -> 07:02 PM) I'll miss Hawk. We all know it's time, but I chose to remember the good days. Fond memories of yesteryear, asking my Dad what the heck a cat-bird seat was, what the heck a can-of-corn had to do with a baseball game. I'll miss his candor. The number of guys that can actually get away with saying what they feel in our social justice warrior era can be counted on a couple hands at best. I'll miss his enthusiasm. Hawk has been the voice of my baseball team for as far back as my memory goes, and I think growing up listening to a guy live and die on every pitch in a game where essentially nothing ever happens, made me feel like it was important, like that's how I should feel about baseball, and it worked. He put everything he had in to this gig for a long time, and as corny as it sounds you can't argue with the passion he brought to the mic day in and day out. I'm glad I got to grow up listening to his stories of legends I couldn't pull up youtube videos of at my fingertips. I feel bad for the kids today that will never get to experience that. Sure, the Grandpa campfire story magical feeling waned as I grew older, but I'd still take a tall tale from the Hawk I've heard 100 times over Benetti telling me what his Mom put in his lunchbox. Love em, hate em, somewhere in between, hats off to a legend, the end of an era, this Sox fan will always cherish the memories. Thanks Hawk You might not post very much in all your years as a member of this community but damn this post rocks !
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SSS Theater: Avi Garcia
QUOTE (witesoxfan @ May 30, 2017 -> 08:18 AM) The dude has 475 plate appearances at the MLB level. Garcia almost has 4 times that amount of experience. If it took Garcia that long to "figure" things out, why wouldn't you believe in Schwarber? I would give Schwarber that long . However Avi appears to get it now whereas you take the chance Schwarber might not ever get it. Right now you'd be trading a productive for a non productive player without a position .Why would you want a DH in waiting ? There are way too many guys hitting below.230 who can't field and all they can do is hit the ball far.
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June 4th Game Thread
That half inning took 30 minutes.