Everything posted by CaliSoxFanViaSWside
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The Offense
QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Apr 22, 2016 -> 07:04 AM) Markakis might be an option as well. He has no pop, but he'd be a solid #2 hitter and the Braves would most likely eat a portion of his contract if the Sox gave them a prospect. Doubtful Atlanta would eat enough of that contract to interest the Sox in having Markakis through 2018. If they are going to pay for someone lets hope he can also field his position well as to not saddle the Sox with yet another DH type of player. We've all seen what good fielding brings to a team when combined with good pitching. Avi and Sands are already not very useful in that respect .
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Avi Needs to Go
QUOTE (Black_Jack29 @ Apr 24, 2016 -> 10:02 AM) Morneau just had elbow surgery. I'd rather pick up the salary of a healthy, younger guy like Bruce or Markakis than roll the dice on Morneau to save a few bucks. I don't have a philosophical objection to trying an internal option, but none of these guys look like they're ready to consistently hit at the ML level and we need somebody to step in and produce right away. As long as we're not giving up Fulmer or Anderson, I don't object to trading for a proven vet in his prime. Bruce is a rental. Already have too many guys on 1 or 2 year terms. Prospects for rentals at this point after giving up so many is counterproductive to the health of the system. Bruce is a RF so you would move him to LF ? Cincinnati, in the Frazier trade, already seems to dislike our prospects and that was with Trayce , Montas, and M Johnson. Maye you DH him but the problem seems to lie in acquiring him especially given whatever competition there might be for him and Cincy not liking our guys. Rolling the dice on Morneau also means the team could make other deals.Maybe Morneau might not be ready until July but after missing most of last season he stepped right in the Rockies lineup and produced. Prefer his knowledge of the AL, his cost, no prospects given up and to have that saved "few bucks" as to not limit the Sox ability to make other moves that may crop up. Bruce is a cheaper option that Markakis but Markasis is signed through 2018 @ $11M per season so don't see the Sox acquiring him unless ATL eats some of that but then they'd want a better prospect. Pretty sure Markakis is not who the Sox had in mind for another 2 years after this one when they didn't offer Dexter Fowler that much for the same amount of time.I know LaRoche's salary was still around then but that's still a hefty price for a guy like Markasis .
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AND THAT'S A WHITE SOX WINNER!!!
QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Apr 24, 2016 -> 06:23 AM) Jerry Sands is a better DH option than Coats. Debatable . Is his defense better than Coats ? Would it hurt the team much to send Avi down or release Sands ? Probably not. Sands is 28 and out of options. Coats is 26 . Sands has played 1 inning in the OF this year . His brief stints in the majors don't show if he hits righties or lefties better.Maybe his minor league stats do . I do know Avi has had 58 PA's and Sands 17 , that needs to stop.Find out what we have in Sands or Coats. If one doesn't work try the other.
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The Offense
QUOTE (Lillian @ Apr 24, 2016 -> 02:05 AM) I haven't seen any updates on how he is recovering from the elbow surgery. The original prognosis was that he could start swinging a bat in June. Have you seen anything further on his progress and scheduled return? A healthy Morneau would look great in the middle of the lineup. No haven't seen anything since mid March on MLBTR . I do know that he was the only guy on MLBTR's top 50 free agents who didn't get a deal because of the elbow but there wasn't much interest in him before he decided to get the surgery.
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Sale start pushed back to Tuesday
QUOTE (flavum @ Apr 24, 2016 -> 09:05 AM) The Sox are really at the point with Danks of, "Are we better off giving somebody else these last 27-29 starts?" Once the answer is Yes, you release Danks and eat the money. I'm not sure they're there yet. Not sure that's going to happen as long as Latos gives them good starts and the bullpen keeps performing. The offense needs more help than the pitching staff.
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Sale start pushed back to Tuesday
QUOTE (fathom @ Apr 24, 2016 -> 08:33 AM) Oh boy, hope it's nothing relating to injury. You really need to work on your mind set. You're a great guy . Have never seen you be anything but gracious and poised but damn it doesn't always have to be worst case scenario as your 1st thought. I'm sure he's fine just a lot of games and one thing the Sox always do is try to protect Sale's arm as much as possible, It's actually quite admirable they do that, because one year the Sox will make the playoffs and Sale will have to pitch into a post season and then a season after that. The innings will pile up and they are just protecting the biggest asset they have,
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Avi Needs to Go
QUOTE (Black_Jack29 @ Apr 23, 2016 -> 07:24 PM) If I were Hahn, I'd look to make a move sooner rather than later, when the bidding wars start. The Sox don't have enough in their minor league system to out-bid another team. I'm not too hot on Bruce (or Markakis), but I think that salary-dump players like those two might be the most realistic options for the Sox. The sooner the Reds and Braves move those guys, the more money they save, so there's some incentive to move them before the ASB. But I'm not sure if the savings are enough incentive to pass on getting potentially better prospect packages from other teams in July. I think it's imperative that those kinds of moves are not considered at all until an internal option like Coats is tried. Maybe the Sox system doesn't produce a guy like Manzara with Texas or a Piscotty or Grichuk with St. Louis but we will never know until they are given a shot .There's nothing to lose , they can always be sent back down. Then we can try Morneau. Those moves would not preclude other moves being made like taking on big salaries and giving up more prospects would.
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Avi Needs to Go
QUOTE (Thad Bosley @ Apr 24, 2016 -> 08:13 AM) While a productive LH bat might seem ideal as the replacement for Garcia, Lillian, I wouldn't get too caught up on that idea. A RH like, oh, I don't know, someone like Yoenis Cespedes and hIS sparkling .991 OPS would look just fine in the clean-up spot in our lineup. Now where can you find someone just like him! That is water under the bridge. Have to move on from that. I made it known I wanted Cespedes more than Gordon or Upton but the off season is over. Time to move on. Lillian is right. Maybe Hahn is working on it now. I still think if Morneau is available come June that is probably the earliest we can expect any front office moves and easily the best option . The only thing that bothers me is the deliberate nature of the front office.There is nothing wrong or panicky about making small moves now.How much more can Avi's confidence be shot by sending him down ? It actually might do him some good and in the long haul the team . Bottom line is we all want what's best for the team and shouldn't get caught up with personality conflicts. State your case ,make your arguments and counter arguments but for heavens sake let be mature enough to do all that with poise and grace. I will try to take my own advice as well.
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The Offense
QUOTE (Lillian @ Apr 22, 2016 -> 06:26 AM) Agreed. Any ideas? You know what I want; a middle of the order left handed bat. However, with Morneau and Ethier injured, who is left? I don't want Bruce. What would it take to get CarGo from the Rockies, and would you be willing to do it? Morneau will be ready some time in June apparently. He still seems like the best option pre trade deadline if you take cost ( cheap)need ( left handed with power, back up 1st base, decent fielder),and ability into consideration.
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AND THAT'S A WHITE SOX WINNER!!!
QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Apr 23, 2016 -> 06:10 PM) I agree with, he's definitely overrated around here IMO. Having said that, he still might be a better option than Avi. Might be? Avi is in such a dense fog right now and others may say has been in that fog his whole career. Sure Coats is overrated but he's the only position player on Charlotte worth talking about because of outstanding numbers (apologies to Smith and Sanchez).
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Sox turn bizarre triple play
QUOTE (aryzner @ Apr 22, 2016 -> 09:36 PM) It was indeed terrible baserunning but great execution by the Sox in my opinion. Looked like Saladino could've easily run down Fielder which would make the last 2 throws unnecesary but still well executed.
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Avi Needs to Go
QUOTE (AustinIllini @ Apr 23, 2016 -> 08:19 PM) Another vote for adios to Avi. Seems like a good guy, but this is baseball, not politics. Sox managerneeds to have an every game counts attitude, Avi has an option left. Send him down, It's beyond obvious he needs time with his new stance. Too bad Coats isn't left handed.Shuck will come back 1st when EJ gets sent back down. Most likely no other changes will be made unless Avila goes on the DL then we'll see Kevan Smith. But like others I wouldn't mind seeing Sanchez and/or Coats up. Sands would have to be waived and Avi sent down .Neither are late inning defensive replacements . Coats and Sanchez would improve defense and give the team more versatilty. Since neither Avi or Sands are hitting could be a wash offensively or even a plus.
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2015-16 NHL thread
That was beeee u ti ful !
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2015-16 NHL thread
QUOTE (RockRaines @ Apr 23, 2016 -> 07:40 PM) Panik again. Man. Draws the penalty . Yes.
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2015-16 NHL thread
Damn thought Ladd had that.
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2015-16 NHL thread
QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Apr 23, 2016 -> 06:59 PM) I would like to reference my point to "please stop losing 3rd periods" right now. Here Here ! No defensive shell . Be aggressive.
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2015-16 NHL thread
QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Apr 23, 2016 -> 06:48 PM) The Hawks should just always play like they are this period. #analysis I love it when you analyze.
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2015-16 NHL thread
Glad the Blues didnt check to see if Weise was offsides.
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2015-16 NHL thread
Stretch pass, Panik, Toews, TVR, TIED !
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AND THAT'S A WHITE SOX WINNER!!!
Pitching, pitching and more pitching and a tiny bit of hitting.
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4/23 Game thread: Texas, 1:10pm, CSN
QUOTE (shysocks @ Apr 23, 2016 -> 03:09 PM) Lol thank you. What a stupid game. T'was a beautiful game.
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4/23 Game thread: Texas, 1:10pm, CSN
Yea he pulled it back. It was gone, can tell by how his wrist bend over the fence.
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4/23 Game thread: Texas, 1:10pm, CSN
QUOTE (fathom @ Apr 23, 2016 -> 02:16 PM) Nice start Rollins Damn my TV broadcast is way behind. Rollins hasnt even got the 1st pitch yet.
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4/23 Game thread: Texas, 1:10pm, CSN
QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ Apr 23, 2016 -> 02:11 PM) Rollins has to do everything to knock that down and he didn't. I'm tired of his defense and lack of range I can't see how anyone blames Rollins at all there. He has to straddle the base if he wants to apply a tag. He just can't decide mid-throw that the throw is bad and move around. Thats impossible. All he can do is try to get the ball on the hop and it was a high hop . Not much of a chance at all to catch it .
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4/23 Game thread: Texas, 1:10pm, CSN
Need a DP.