nitetrain8601

QUOTE(sox-r-us @ Jun 1, 2005 -> 02:21 PM) You must be kidding nitetrain. If Castilla is as bad as some people here believe, how can he be their franchise player? And even if he is the face of the team, it means squat. This is a business. Come trade deadline, when the Nats realize they have no shot at beating the Braves or Marlins, they will be selling. Again, franchise as in a face for the franchise. I would know, a family member works as an accountant for the franchise. The fans identify with Vinny the most out of any player not named Brad Wilkerson. I also said one of their franchise players, not THEE franchise player(looks like more and more posters can't read for understanding on this board). But again, I must be wrong, Jabroni said so.

QUOTE(Jabroni @ Jun 1, 2005 -> 02:20 PM) If they fall out of contention, they would trade him in a second. Castilla is 37 f***ing years old. You are wrong. Course I am, you said so. That was never said, but I'd imagine it was the same players the Sox were trying to trade to Colorado last year for Larry Walker.

I remember reading this in the paper too(It wasn't today's). I also remember hearing that Dusty Baker did an interview with the SF Chronicle a few months back and called Cubs fans racist and that he was going to jet as soon as he got the chance.

As in a face around the city. I'm guessing you didn't bother to read the following sentence.

pods iguchi thomas arow(brake up some double plays) Aj Dye Konerko Crede Harris(when Uribe is in there, switch him to the 8 spot)

QUOTE(sox-r-us @ Jun 1, 2005 -> 02:13 PM) I am confident the Nats will be out of it come trade deadline time. I am not saying do it now....wait until trade deadline....maybe by then Crede will get better too....who knows Nats won't trade one of their "franchise players." He's a face around the city of Washington. He's staying there and probably will retire there. Castilla isn't coming here and I'm glad. And if you wait until the trading deadline, you put yourself at risk of losing more games than you would of if you traded for the player a little earlier(hence KW's theory and reasoning for not waiting until the trade deadline).

QUOTE(sox-r-us @ Jun 1, 2005 -> 01:50 PM) I will really be mad if we got Chavez's overpaid ass and traded BMac for him. Do any of you focking realize Chavez is making money equivalent to what New York is paying ARod (since Rangers are paying a lot of ARod's salary still) and what St Louis is paying Pujols? Why the fock would a team like ours that is fiscally constrained want to trade for such a ridiculous contract when the guy under question is focking sucking this year? Do you all realize Beane is under more pressure to improve his team than Kenny is? So play the leverage game and fock Beane when you can. What of Beane knows Chavez was on the juice previously and hence is dying to let him go to a sucker soon? It is possible that Chavez could have been influenced by Giambi (team mates always pick up stuff from other team mates) When has Chavez's overpaid ass EVER won anything? Yes, you buy low, sell high. But not if that guy will be the highest paid player on your team. If we are willing to pay that ridiculous contract that Chavez is signed to, we should instead have traded Paulie in the off season and signed Delgado instead. A far better player that would be a monster in our home park. Delgado didn't want to come to this team. He proved it last year when KW traded for him, but he wouldn't decline his no trade clause. Hell they traded for him twice and had Ozzie talk to him and he just didn't want to come. Paul is a one dimensional hitter. I wouldn't go so far to call him the leader of the team(I would reserve that for Rowand and Buehrle and still a little for Thomas). PK has led us to nothing. He's proved he can't carry an offense. He did good when we had Thomas protecting him and Lee's protection and Maggs' protection. Chavez would be an upgrade over PK. And btw, Pujols signed a hell of a deal with the Cards and gave them a hometown discount. Everyone said he could've gotten A-Rod money once he became a FA, but he wanted to stay loyal which is why he just basically signed the first contract they offered him. A-Rod is still make 21 million, regardless of who's paying it so Chavez isn't in his money bracket.

QUOTE(ChiSoxyGirl @ May 31, 2005 -> 06:11 PM) Yep, that's what I, errrr, uh, someone else does.... Lol.

Told you guys that Gooch wouldn't be a top candidate. It's sad, but he won't make it unless he hits 10 HR's. Dye is a name, that's why he's top 15. AJ definately should be top 5.

QUOTE(He_Gawn @ May 31, 2005 -> 02:08 PM) Make sure you have the Wireless adapter plugged into your computer and run the startup disc, it will find the network and that should be it. This pretty much should do the trick. I think you also got to set the wireless card to latch onto any connection that's being sent.

QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ May 31, 2005 -> 05:04 PM) You make personal attack after personal attack and then get on Jabroni for taking a cheap shot. You have a warped sense of reality. You can talk of Napolean conflicts and all but you are the kid who cracks the other kid in the head then complains when he hits you back. Read my post at 5:46. I tried to end it there and simply said that I accepted disagreeing and said JaBroni has not which is the problem. I thought it would end there. I'm not going to be the older brother who gives him what he wants. He doesn't want to end it so I got til 6:30 to argue with the runt if he wants.

QUOTE(Cubs Suck23 @ May 31, 2005 -> 05:01 PM) A Padres fan would like to see his team make this trade... Buehrle,Mccarthy,Anderson and Uribe for Jake Peavy,Khail Greene,Trevor Hoffman I don't see Khalil that much of an upgrade over Uribe. Peavy is better than Buehrle, McCarthy has more trade value than Hoffman IMO because he is a young pitcher who could be a stud and Hoffman is older already. Anderson would be in there to match Buehrle and Peavy I presume. So the base of this trade would be Andersen and Sweeney for Peavy. Thank you, but no bait simply because Peavy is not that much of an upgrade in terms of helping us win more than Buehrle will and we're throwing in an asset.

QUOTE(Jabroni @ May 31, 2005 -> 04:57 PM) I made a poll and the majority agreed that Uribe is a better defensive SS than Ozuna. I think it's more childish to refute the obvious. Oh yeah, because all these people are GM's in the league. In that case, whoever is Billy Beane, is it possible you trade us Chavez and Haren and Harden for a bag of balls? You keep going after I again agreed to disagree. Continue with your cheap shots though. Now I know how it's like to have a little brother that keeps following you around and continues to annoy the hell out of you. Everyone praise JaBroni as king so he could finally shut the hell up.

QUOTE(kyyle23 @ May 31, 2005 -> 04:50 PM) just out of random curiosity, are you the youngest child Jabroni? That last little "20-2" stinger is right out of my brothers book. Yes that was childish. Of course the little brother always has to have a cheapshot in there because of the Napoleon complex. Keep going Jabroni. And for the last damn time, I did not vote in that damn thread. I'll bet 400 dollars in paypal cash, or do you want to chicken out little brother?

QUOTE(kyyle23 @ May 31, 2005 -> 04:44 PM) there used to be this statement that applied to the argument you two are having. "We agree to disagree" move along folks, nuthin to see here. Just two people arguing over semantics...... I've already said those are just my thoughts. I never said anyone has to take them as fact. That's where JaBroni comes in. I have to take his thoughts as facts. I already asked a page or 2 prior when will it end and that I already know their thoughts on the discussion. I've already agreed to disagree, but JaBroni needs to argue.

QUOTE(Jabroni @ May 31, 2005 -> 04:40 PM) I sent you one PM referring you to the poll thread. Once again, get over yourself. Never said you sent me more than 1 did I? No. And I already knew where that thread was going. You didn't have to make it, but you simply did it so you could have something to rub in my face. Again, it didn't tell me anything different. I already knew their opinions from this thread. It's not my fault you simply can't deal with me not looking at it and not caring.

QUOTE(I-HATE-CREDE @ May 31, 2005 -> 04:37 PM) Hey, nitetrain said Ozuna is better defensively than Uribe and that is enough for me. Why can't the rest of you just trust his judgement? And where did I state my THOUGHTS are FACTS???

QUOTE(Jabroni @ May 31, 2005 -> 04:35 PM) I was just trying to point you to the poll thread. I think it's safe to say that you were misguided. Thanks though. 17 votes for Uribe 1 vote for Ozuna I guess I couldn't come to the conclusion after reading this thread and people's thoughts in it. Your welcome to send me a ton more PM's telling me something I ALREADY KNOW. :sleep

QUOTE(aboz56 @ May 31, 2005 -> 04:35 PM) I mean as much as I think Crede sucks right now, he was a two time minor league MVP and there is a chance that he could get hot at some point this season. This is not Crede defending, this is just logic. You're such a Crede apologist

QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ May 31, 2005 -> 04:30 PM) I thought that the purpose of boards like this was to discuss with sox fans about the sox. If a topic doesnt hold merit people will ignore it and move on. I never understood where people read something they dont like and then get mad at people for bringing up the point. Whitesox fans are pessimistic by nature. And I am sorry if I am not just overjoyed by this anemic offense we have. Our pitching is great. That's all good and all, but it has gone on in other threads. The same crap is being recycled everyday about 10 times a day. Again, Aboz, I suggest stickying a "I want to b**** about the White Sox thread". Anyone who doesn't b**** in there and takes it elsewhere gets a temporary ban.

No Jabroni, I will not go out with you. I'm a heterosexual male. In the words of Cam'ron, No homo. Thanks for the PM though. And no, I did not vote in that thread because it's simply lame and I already knew it was a form of baiting. I know most people are saying Uribe. That was expressed in this thread. Don't know why you had to make another thread about it.

I would say offense is underrated in basketball, but it ultimately leads to a balance of both. My theory is, defense keeps you close, offense will win you the game.

QUOTE(Palehosefan @ May 31, 2005 -> 02:38 PM) Larry simply said he would be retiring in Detroit, and he's not going to be retiring in Detroit if the latest reports are true. But even if they are true, do you honestly think Larry can go without coaching the Cavaliers and just sit back and let someone else do it? Thats asking too much from him, he has an ego and if the Cav's falter, I see him taking over immediately. He said that Detroit would be his last coaching gig. He didn't say he would no way be involved with basketball after Detroit. Would you rather have him take Dumars' job?? Larry will just quit if it doesn't work out in CLE.

QUOTE(Jabroni @ May 31, 2005 -> 04:24 PM) It's not opinion. It's fact. Uribe is a better defensive SS than Ozuna. Sorry for questioning you God. I will never doubt your opionions, I mean facts again. Praise Jabroni

Point was that there was already 15 other threads b****ing about what and who is going wrong. That's the point me and aboz are trying to make.