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2016 made me lose all hope that ground game means s***. Maybe 04.

QUOTE (ptatc @ Jun 18, 2017 -> 05:05 PM) I disagree. Pessimism would be if they show no signs of being able to adjust to pro ball. If collins was proved he couldn't handle catching and couldn't put up a 800 OPS or Brurdi couldn't K any one. I see signs they are adjusting to pro ball. Maybe concern but not pessimism. Totally agree. Development doesn't mean you always dominate each level in linear fashion. We have a big league team full of players succeeding now after odd paths in the majors, this game is hard.

I mean throwing Hickman's k rate after 3 starts and missing his first two years is just so ridiculous. Hickman was an intriguing value with a nice story that lost 2 years not due to his own fault, and people are happy he's making a comeback. Gee what a wonder why people are rooting for him.

The future Sox board has an absurd tendency to suggest that any level 20-30/fringe prospect ever getting mentioned more than once like totally is overrating them as we all know you should only talk about players in proportion to their future impact.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jun 18, 2017 -> 09:12 AM) Damn, so the trade actually happened. Don't know much about Fultz outside of draft express highlights. He's really good, but it is weird how bad Washington was with a #1 draft pick. Way worse than Simmons LSU team, though LSU did have more talent.

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/06/17/opini...l-shooting.html This was a very good Ross Douthat piece.

We have the type of rotation where we'll have a number of big free falls. Not concerned when we put some good games together.

QUOTE (oldsox @ Jun 18, 2017 -> 06:17 AM) Scott Boras is his agent, and he settled for underslot money? He was a lot tougher on Sox when he represented Rodon. Rodon was the best college pitcher and considered close to the show. Lewis was not the best high school player, and was only selected 1-1 because he struck a deal. He came out ahead.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jun 18, 2017 -> 08:25 AM) He's a former Latin signing who is currently 19 years old and playing very well in A Ball. Strong package of tools (speed/power/arm), walks at a decent clip for his age, and sounds like he can actually stick in CF long-term. He's got some swing & miss issues that are concerning, but his ceiling is very, very high. Reminds me of Basabe with more power but a bit less speed. IMO, these are the types of guys we should be targeting as secondary pieces with our best trade assets or as the primary pieces with our less assets. This recent draft provided us with a ton of "baseball players" to provide depth to the system. Now'a the time to sprinkle some athletes in as well. Then yes that's the player type I'm looking for.

I don't know who Frorial is but I'd haggle over 3rd piece, maybe get some of their lat am prospects now turning 18.

Yes.

He's a hard one to get a bearing on.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 17, 2017 -> 03:10 PM) Reed turned into Davidson, Santos was a whiff...Santiago started his career as a high draft pick swing man (then closer) and turned into Eaton...into possibly 3 Top 100 prospects. Devenski, he was a throw-in at time. I guess we can also say we 'missed' with Junior Guerra and Clayton Richard, haha. Devenski was a terrible trade forever because Bret Myers is human garbage

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jun 17, 2017 -> 03:08 PM) What do u mean shouldn't have won it? Is this the start of the disintegration of the winners thread? Just wondering cause I get accused of derailing threads enuf. Because we threw mike pelfrey against their ace, Greg. Calm down.

Well I at least didn't think he was Luis mieses this time.

That's a stat line that I forget to look at, but yeah it's nice he's showing in game speed.

http://www.milb.com/scoreboard/index.jsp?c...mp;ymd=20170617 Robert 2-3 with a double, walk, K

We also shouldn't have won it, but pelf gonna pelf

Bulls may be a part of this celtics sixers trade

Actually my other takeaway NSS is I'm shocked you have Engel at 10.

I don't know Fisher's defensive report, but power and all I'd have a hard time putting Skoug ahead of fisher given that Fisher has produced so far and that so few think Skoug can stick at C.

Nats about to sign edwin jackson. Should solve their issues.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jun 16, 2017 -> 11:17 AM) Kincanon has signed, per his own Twitter announcement. 11th rounder might be over-slot. Great news.

I've always had a lower tolerance but if we truly got cubs to offer Jimenez which I doubt (I think they'd want a more sure power pitcher), I'd take an offer of Jimenez, someone like Clifton and Aramis Ademan.

recuse. Nobody can refuse the Rosenstein.