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QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Jun 6, 2011 -> 08:33 PM) But Republicans won't go crazy and nominate Palin, even in Democrat fantasyland. She might win a primary or two, but at the end of the day I think she gets destroyed by others, especially since other candidates like Bachmann will split the extreme vote. Trust me, I don't want Palin to win the nomination. There is a very big chance that a Republican wins in 2012. For all the ideological differences, they at least seem to take the role of governing more seriously. But prior to 2008 there was a very big "momentum" aspect to primaries. Where if a candidate won the first few primaries, they were considered the frontrunner and people began to get behind them. With the GOPs winner take all states, Palin's hardcore base will definitely vote and if the rest of the field shows no real promise, those votes will get split.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 6, 2011 -> 08:30 PM) I'm entirely serious. 2004 and 2008 were entirely base turnout elections. The Democratic Base turned out overwhelmingly in 2008, and Bush won in 2004 despite losing so-called independents. But you also had a huge growth in electorate identifying as 'democrats' that are probably best considered independents.

No, I'm not. If unemployment is terrible in november 2012, the independents will swing away from the incumbent.

I disagree.

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Jun 6, 2011 -> 07:25 PM) I think you've bought into the Dem message that Palin will win unless Dems get out and vote. It won't happen. She's too polarizing, even for the majority of the GOP. No, I've bought into the message that has existed for United States history that says s***ty economies aren't good for the incumbent. Alan Keyes could grab 45% of the vote in this economy.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 6, 2011 -> 07:22 PM) So in otherwords, while being a great talking point, it wouldn't have made a difference. Selective Outrage indeed. No. You are implying that we are saying that these open seats would magically fix the economy. But, we have a fed board that clearly has the inflation hawks well represented. It's only fair those more aligned to fulfilling the employment mandates of the federal reserve also have a seat at the table. The fed matters, especially during these times, and there's no reason to have empty seats for probably obama's whole presidency.

It's not that in itself, it's that there have been vacant seets on the fed board that could have been filled with candidates more worried about employment issues and less concerned about keeping inflation at sub 2% at all costs.

If unemployment is still hovering around 9-10% this time next year, the independents and moderates will vote anything but obama.

Palin's following is considerably larger than ron paul's and has her own propoganda network. I don't think Iowa will like her. But unless Romney gets Mccain like support from independents, then Palin continues to be a real threat, especially terrifying considering anyone the republicans throw for 2012 has a good chance to win the election.

Her little following is pretty substantial and hardcore. It may be around 30% when all is said and done which can TOTALLY win primaries.

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Jun 6, 2011 -> 05:00 PM) Right, but unfortunately the press she gets has nothing to do with her being a serious candidate to win the nomination. It has everything to do with liberals and independents wanting to see her fail and look like an idiot. She's not the brightest bulb in the box, no doubt. But she doesn't deserve half the attention she gets. This latest Revere story is a good example. She says X, the media covers it, people get all interested because it supports their belief that she's a moron (right or wrong, doesn't matter) and she stays relevant. If people would be like "Oh, she said something, who cares?" the media would stop covering her every waking move and she'd go away. Not even a bus tour across America would gather that much attention. You know, it isn't liberals and independents going to meet her in mobs at every bus stop. And it isn't liberals and independents putting her as the 2nd highest polling candidate in the republican primaries. And if the mainstream media and liberal media stopped publishing all the stupid things she was saying, she wouldn't disappear. She'd just be living a life without scrutiny with a huge audience on fox news.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Jun 6, 2011 -> 02:21 PM) I don't suggest that there is definitive proof for either issue, but it's a bit crazy to me that these topics are basically shunned in the US because the cell phone industry is afraid of the negative publicity. One would think we'd have a right to know a little bit more about the potential links here... I'd hardly call them shunned, but these are very weak correlations.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 6, 2011 -> 01:30 PM) Gonzalez put up a .732 OPS his first 3 weeks in the AL. Even he took a bit of time. So Adam Dunn is 9+ weeks worse than Adrian Gonzalez.

The only other people that would consider that a gotcha question would be a 2nd grader.

yeah i didn't correctly edit his statement. fail.

It's less that I'm mad that he's not coming to chicago, more that he is the biggest tool I've ever seen in sports. He's the only play in basketball i've seen that consistently plays like he knows the camera's are watching him. I don't give a f*** about his career or that he's good, he's a douche and that's that.

QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Jun 5, 2011 -> 04:53 PM) What year was it that PK was struggling so bad? Actually looking back he had two off years 2003 and 2008. I do think Dunn will rebound, but he won't have any 40 homers. But, watching him right now is painful. He is an automatic out and we find a glimmer of hope when he gets an infield single, That's just plain wrong. 2003. He started being okay starting in about july iirc. He was just terrible for the first half.

QUOTE (mr_genius @ Jun 5, 2011 -> 03:30 PM) na, just ramp up voter suppression (ID required, ect) and the citizens won't be able to vote. if that fails, mid-decade redistrict. edited.

QUOTE (maggsmaggs @ Jun 3, 2011 -> 08:00 PM) Yeah I don't mind that, what I mind is that he has the chutzpah to claim Van Gundy is betting on the series because he has inside info from the league office on who will win. I think that was more promoting his website.

well Bosh is ugly so I won't ever like him.

and bankers overwhelmingly vote R. Who cares.

i don't see us taking JJ's max contract. That's just stupid. God damn it, i hate sam smith.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jun 2, 2011 -> 05:26 PM) You're operating under the assumption that he's even the same player he was last he was here. He's been awful as a Piston. Is that coaching, system, bad teammates? Who knows. But at that price, you want somebody that can put you over the top. And that's just not Ben Gordon. Yeah, I am assuming a bounce back which isn't smart. But I wouldn't mind a player like BG over Korver's role. Korver can and should should lights out, but he can only hit baskets pretty wide open and can't put the ball down.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jun 2, 2011 -> 05:19 PM) So basically a black Kyle Korver with a little more explosive scoring ability at over $35 million dollars through 2014? No thanks. I agree that gordon at that price is not a good fit. But, it's not the "more explosive scoring ability" by itself. Kyle Korver can't dribble, and panics when people play up on him. At least gordon can put the ball down, and even drive. He is a much better all around offensive player.

excellent bill.