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That’s cool it’s not a concern of yours but if you take away the Machado angle this looks exactly like a move the Sox would make from 2010-2016 where they acquire a middling vet hoping for a bounce back and call it progress. If this was uncoordinated and Machado doesn’t sign, then what it doesn’t do is show me an example of how the Sox will be better at structuring a roster after a decade of this same org trying and failing to structure rosters. Even for small deals, I just have higher standards than “who cares we didn’t give up much and it doesn’t hurt” because during a rebuild every move that doesn’t add to long term winning is taking time, money, or prospects that could be used toward that front. If it doesn’t matter, than don’t do it. Put $9 mill toward player development instead.

They did not need to fill out what Alonso fills. I think it’s cool that they made this move regarding Machado, I do. I don’t think I need to trick myself into thinking acquiring bad roster fits in McCann and Alonso is actually great news after watching Hahn do that for 6 years now. So yes, if this was not coordinated with the agent or machado and was just a failed bail Mary, that would be a bad sign for how disciplined and good Hahn will do at building this club back up after being allowed to tear it down.

This is really unfair to walker, that said, Hostetlers preference for using high second round picks on college bats over high school position players has been a big miss. Some of the Hs this board targeted last year had really nice first runs in pro ball and have had good write ups since. The Sox selected an injured college bat that Basically lost his first year.

Yeah so if Alonso had no relationship to Machado you guys are telling me you’d be happy with this trade? It has no positive value outside of Machado. At best it’s neutral. He just isn’t very good.

Oh wait it’s kikuchi

It would have been Corbin honestly

Yeah this is a good point. You are selling me. I had a really hard time believing that this was actually a powerful tool to sign him. But the Hahn quote and agent thing, that would be pretty brutal to mislead on when you have other clients and this team happens to be one of the few with money and desire to spend soon.

Ok

George off man is going to have incredible scoops about clarifying if it was a PowerPoint or video

Gonna need to get some work done Sunday night now for sure.

Thank you caulfield for copy pasting an entire article for some reason.

Dam dude look at you. Great find.

Caulfield do you really think someone needs to be a historian to answer that? That could have only happened in line the last 5 years.

The only bad part about signing Machado will be having to read nightengale’s “disappointed gym teacher” tweets about his effort.

This is a good point.

Y’all are way too excited to move Madrigal.

Top 40? For sure. But he was also my first answer for “who would you give up that has some value” for x player. Those players get you mid season relief pitchers and expensive starters. It’s not nothing.

If Alex Call could just acquire a player, then Alex Call was capable of acquiring another player that may have aligned to the Sox rebuild better, and instead we may have to use a prospect we like more than Alex Call. These aren’t just valuing whether Call will be a CFer for us, he had value that we hopefully used for attracting a player but may have used for acquiring a not very good DH.

Ha, I’m not gonna lie this has crossed my mind: ”If you don’t sign we’ll bury your brother on the bench!”

Right this is articulating the down side well. This asset happens to align with the most redundant part of our fringe-ready prospects. But, it is anathema to our strategy overall so it’s certainly a big, positive story on the Machado front.

Has t been finalized but that’s the only name I’ve heard.

Is Call really a fringe prospect? Seems kinda mean. He has a decent shot to make a roster eventually, fringe prospect to me means some crappy a baller.

That seems like a good idea tbh

I hope so much this is a good sign. But the anxiety you see is that the stakes come to he to be raised. And again I think it means these FAs were a huge part of their plan, and I worry what it means if they took out all the stops and missed out. like a Tracy McGrady moment.

This last part is probably true, but also it just seems like anytime you sign family it’s just a “goodwill” gesture. The idea that this is some amazing recruiting strategy seems to overshoot it. Seems kinda desperate to me.