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QUOTE(beck72 @ Nov 11, 2005 -> 03:52 PM) I'm trying to think like Ozzie and KW. Trading Arow for pitching makes perfect sense. I definitely see the sox wanting a SP from AAA ready to step in and win games should an injury occur. They don't want to get into the whole 5th starter merry-go-round. They should want someone who can step in for the whole yr, not just one or two starts. the sox don't even have a guy who can fill in for one or two starts Sometime this offseason, a trade should be made that will address this gap in the sox. We got the Duke who most likely is still going to be with the team and in the bullpen, I just dont see Aaron being traded for a 7th starting pitcher.

QUOTE(SnB @ Nov 11, 2005 -> 03:47 PM) somewhere in bloomington, greasy is sobbing. Greasy's not at the wedding??? I'm shocked.

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Nov 11, 2005 -> 03:45 PM) Rowand = Kotsay Hunter >>> Kotsay Did I not just say that?

QUOTE(beck72 @ Nov 11, 2005 -> 03:45 PM) If PK doesn't re-sign with the sox, they can pick up a guy like Thome or Helton for cash. A Row wouldn't have to be part of a deal. The case for a top SP prospect might not seem important now. But if one of those 4 guys go down to an injury, you can't get good SP's mid year. The time to stock is in the offseason. As it is, who do the sox turn to from the minors in case of injury? Um...el duque. You want to trade Aaron for a top notch starting pitcher and do what with him?? I don't understand what you're trying to say, and if you want to trade him for a prospect I actually have to agree that, that is taking a step backwards, no need to trade Arow for a minor leaguer when you're going to have the Duke to back them up.

Congrats Frank.

QUOTE(nitetrain8601 @ Nov 11, 2005 -> 03:42 PM) Um Mark Kotsay is the best CF in the game without a doubt. Torii is still the best cf in the game imo, Aaron and Kotsay are right there though and are pretty much equal defensively imo.

QUOTE(beck72 @ Nov 11, 2005 -> 03:34 PM) The sox won the World series based on their pitching. If Arow could net a possible #2 or #3 SP, someone who could step in next yr should a SP get hurt, would that hurt the sox chances of repeating? No. Esp if Anderson could give the sox what Arow gave them this yr-- great defense, and numbers like .270/.326/.405. the sox do not have a surplus of starting pitching in the high minors. This is something that should be addressed, with or w/o an Arow trade. Yet few teams will give away top pitching prospects for guys like Marte or El Duque. It takes talent to get talent. Trading arow for a starting pitcher makes 0 sense to me but if he's the centerpiece for a big bat then I'm all for it. We might not have that many pitchers in the high minors minus Haig but Freddy, Mark, Brandon, and I'd bet on Jon too will all be here through atleast 07 so those guys in the lower minors will have time to develop.

I'm happy John got a job he's wanted a while, so definitely congrats to him and congrats to cards fans.

QUOTE(Sox Hustler @ Nov 11, 2005 -> 02:13 PM) Isn't Bedard a SP? Yes, and their best by far.

QUOTE(YASNY @ Nov 11, 2005 -> 07:11 AM) I could be wrong, but I don't see KW reversing his trend by trading a good solid starting pitcher for a slugger. I agree with you, I highly doubt he'd trade one of our starters for Thome. I can see Arow maybe being the center piece of a deal though.

QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Nov 10, 2005 -> 10:50 PM) EA is better at football games (college football owns) and baseball games (MVP rocked). However, ESPN is better at hockey games (at least 2k5, which was just awesome). Haven't played the latest one so I can't comment. Oh and NBA Live (last years edition) was way >>>> NBA2k (horrible camera angles, imo). I just play games I like. for the most part I prefer EA gameplay, that said, ESPN Hockey was one of the best video games EVER. Ditto. MVP baseball is easily the best game for baseball, madden usually rocks though I didn't like this years that much. The last few years I've bought the espn basketball game but this year live is pretty damn awesome imo. Also, I always get college hoops by espn, loved that game last year.

QUOTE(fathom @ Nov 11, 2005 -> 12:46 AM) Even though I gave my suggestions, I think the most likely scenario is PK signs with the Red Sox, Gload isn't brought back, and Frank signs for about 2.5 mil. Of course, I still stand by my blind prediction from 5 months ago that Carlos Pena will be the starting 1B for the 2006 White Sox (no reasoning for that psychic vision). BTW, I know people suggest that if PK leaves, we should use guys like Rowand, Duque, and Marte to try and trade for a new 1B. I think a trade chip that should really be used is Politte, who on a team like the Tigers might think he can be a closer. We can make Steff happy, and sign Urbina then. PK won't be on the red sox, I'll guarantee you that. I highly doubt Cliff gets traded and Uggy won't be brought in either.

QUOTE(kevin57 @ Nov 10, 2005 -> 08:30 PM) Wherever Rowand's hitting, someone's got to help him with his pitch choice and swing. He was diving for everything low and outside. He just can't lay off those pitches! I don't recall that being his MO from the beginning, but in the playoffs it was brutal to watch. He's really done that his whole career.

It's Mark, not much of a question there.

QUOTE(SnB @ Nov 10, 2005 -> 03:04 PM) only at soxtalk would i open up a thread about iguchi and see the last post was about alex gonzalez. Shut up nerd.

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Nov 10, 2005 -> 02:57 PM) Please, someone build me a business case of why in hell we would supplant probably the best defensive SS in the AL for Alex freakin Gonzalez. I want Juan at shortstop next year, trust me, and replacing him with Alex Gonzalez would be retarded.

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Nov 10, 2005 -> 02:52 PM) Hey SSI, read this article, analyze the numbers, get back to me, thanks The truth I think we found the way to get Rock angry.

QUOTE(SnB @ Nov 10, 2005 -> 01:57 PM) why do some people feel a great need for such company loyalty? I enjoy ea games, but i also enjoy 2k games as well......i've seen way too many nerd fights over this. whoever comes out with the better product, i'll buy. This coming from the biggest nerd of all.

QUOTE(LosMediasBlancas @ Nov 10, 2005 -> 11:26 AM) Sorry if this is elsewhere, KW leaning toward Gload as plan B ?? http://www.suntimes.com/output/sox/cst-spt-sox10.html I'm personally a big fan of Ross and would have no problem with him starting at first if we added a top notch dh. That being said, imo Kenny is just saying that for leverage in the trade market, he doesn't want other gm's to believe that he needs another first baseman. I would highly doubt Gload is our starting 1b next year.

QUOTE(Fingish @ Nov 10, 2005 -> 01:54 PM) hmmm, what guy is #4 on that list, would probably only cost $2-$3mil this season, hits lefty, and would be able to bat leadoff, while staying within the "Ozzie Doctrorine" of getting someone with speed? We tried the Lofton thing once and it didn't work, it's not going to happen again. He did have a very solid year last year but that was mostly being in a platoon role.

QUOTE(qwerty @ Nov 9, 2005 -> 11:05 PM) Nicole ritchie is more anorexic than normal ( leno). I just turned on Leno cause you said that and :puke

QUOTE(easyw @ Nov 9, 2005 -> 09:34 PM) PK should get 3 years at $50 million. Anything longer or for more money is just not worth it. Long term big money deals always turn out to be bad for the team. If he won't take $16.5 million/year, with a 3-year guarantee, then he's not worth it. Let him go to NY and endure the media circus.. Put Dye at first, put Anderson in right, give Garland some more cash and let the chips fall where they may. This is one of the more insane things I've seen people think should be offered to Paul.

IMO you can't change qb's in the middle of the season with a first place team but that's just me.

Oh man, I can't wait for this.

Those penalties would be perfect imo.