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QUOTE(AirScott @ Oct 27, 2006 -> 09:30 AM) is it any surprise how bad the Tigers are playing? hello? 36-38 after the All-Star break. they're only in because we didn't win ANY of the games we needed to win...Sox were 12-17 in September. ouch. Well considering they were playing fantastic in the DS and CS and now they're playing worse than the Royals, yes, I'd say it's a bit of a surprise.

Booerns, guess we're just going to have to fight our way into the top 25. EDIT: Some quick thoughts on this before I head to class: Pitt is beyond overrated. Gtech and Memphis are going to be very dangerous come tourny time. Duke will be more dangerous this year come tourny time than last. Creighton is better than 23 in the nation and Nevada better than 25th.

QUOTE(greasywheels121 @ Oct 27, 2006 -> 07:47 AM) You're just mad b/c WH is going to be right from that argument you guys had way back at the beginning of the season. LOL, I forgot about that. He was basically just talking about the Mets though, so eh. Still, if the Tigers can win tonight I think they have a shot.

QUOTE(witesoxfan @ Oct 27, 2006 -> 01:01 AM) Marlins over Yankees? DBacks over Yankees? Marlins over Indians? Reds over A's? Dodgers over A's? Twins over Cardinals? Well the first two were pretty expected imo, especially the Marlins winning, I actually remember not thinking the Yanks had much of a chance in that series. I can't talk about the others as I don't remember those as I was either too young or not born yet. As for this series, you're right the Tigers aren't great and certainly haven't been dominate but the Cards were a pretty heavy underdog coming in and I know a lot of people(myself included) gave them no chance.

QUOTE(whitesoxfan101 @ Oct 26, 2006 -> 11:52 PM) Oh yeah...the team playing the best in October always wins. The team that is playing the best though is a matter of total luck and randomness, and said team usually gets a few huge breaks as well. Ok, I lied, I will argue this. It's not total luck and it's not randomness to get hot in October. If it was don't you think that the law of averages would have caught up to the A's or the Twins or hell even the Braves more than once? There are reasons that those teams haven't won the World Series. Usually the best team in baseball is going to win the World Series because you have to go through 3 series and win 11 games. You're not going to luck your way through 3 series and if you're not the best team then chances are you will get beat. Like I said there are exceptions and this appears to be one of them. I don't believe the Cards are the best team in baseball(not close) but because baseball as a whole is so average this year they have their shot to win it all because they have not played one great team in this whole postseason.

QUOTE(CardsJimEdmonds15 @ Oct 26, 2006 -> 11:46 PM) Yea and even the 2004 and 2005 team Cards were better than this team IMHO.. maybe someone is smiling down on us.. an OK team has a chance to win a WS whereas those other two teams couldnt? That 2004 team was one of the best I've ever seen in my life as a Cards fan (I'm only 21) and they couldnt do it! But this team may? It doesnt make sense really! Well my simple answer to this is that baseball as a whole is wayyyyy down this year. There is not a great team, not even close to one. The 04 Red Sox were great, the 05 White Sox were fantastic and even the 05 Angels, 05 Astros and last years Cards were better than both of these teams in this years World Series.

QUOTE(whitesoxfan101 @ Oct 26, 2006 -> 11:33 PM) The best teams GET to October. And on some occasions, a dominating team exists and they win (you could call us that to be honest, we did go 11-1 and wire to wire with the best record in the AL). But that's only 10 percent of the time IMO (1927 Yankees, 1976 Reds, 1998 Yankees, 2005 White Sox even). The other 90 percent of the time, you have pretty evenly matched playoff teams, and the one that gets the most luck wins. I highly, highly disagree and to be honest, that's a theory that a lot of people have that really bugs me. I really don't feel like getting into a big argument over this right now but the best team will usually win the World Series, I'll just leave it at that.

Wite could beat the Tigers by himself at the moment.

QUOTE(whitesoxfan101 @ Oct 26, 2006 -> 11:22 PM) If the Cardinals finish this off, it continues to strengthen my theory that the MLB playoffs are about 90 percent luck. Not to diminish what teams do in October, but it's so much about luck. Hell, even us last year, if the A.J. play is called properly, we might go on the road down 2-0. That's why it's so important to MAKE the playoffs, because anything can happen. No offense but that's bull. For the most part, the best teams win in October(I don't care what anyone says) but there are obviously exceptions to every rule and this might be one of them. I'm embarrassed right now to watch this damn thing. The Tigers are disgracing themselves and I'm really starting to dislike Cardinal fans(a few bad apples for every fan base, unfortunately I'm in Cards territory now). The thought of an 83 win team winning a championship does kind of make me sick though, not going to lie.

QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Oct 26, 2006 -> 12:08 PM) There defense is ridiculously solid/strong. Offensively one thing Booty has missed are his two top receivers who were out so things could get better after that. However, Booty has not played near as strong as of late (which again could be because of injuries to his playmakers). I'm not saying he's stunk, but he hasn't played like a national championship QB should play. I still think they lose to Cal.

QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Oct 26, 2006 -> 01:22 AM) I want the off-season to just get here ASAP so Kenny can start retooling this White Sox team. ^^^ I just want this darn thing to end so the offseason can begin.

I wouldn't mind Heilman for our bullpen but I got a feeling he'd get rocked in the rotation.

What the hey, time to pop in the ol' World Series DVD.

QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Oct 26, 2006 -> 01:56 AM) Yeah, SI had 'em at 18 (I think). Is this SIU team comparably better or worse than the one that made the Sweet 16 run a few years back? I honestly couldn't tell you how it compares considering I really just started to follow SIU bball hardcore last season. I can tell you that this team is pretty damn good and deep. We have a few weaknesses but this team could definitely be a s16 team.

QUOTE(Jordan4life_2006 @ Oct 26, 2006 -> 12:07 AM) This has got to be some kinda record for most games pushed back because of rain for one post-season. Happy it didn't happen to us, it would have made me go nuts.

QUOTE(Gene Honda Civic @ Oct 26, 2006 -> 12:04 AM) we were up 2 games to nil, headed to the bottom of the 14th, at this time last year..... So um, yeah. Happy Damaso Marte is trying to give this game away anniversary. Ya well I didn't want to wait until 11 to make this thread, so sue me.

October 26, 2005... " A groundball passed jenks, up the middle of the infield, Uribe has it, he throws, OUT OUT, a White Sox Winner and a World Championship."

Hudson is a name that really intrigues me. Yes he had a down year but he's been one of the better pitchers in baseball for a while now and I definitely think he'll bounce back.

QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Oct 25, 2006 -> 07:28 PM) Pre-season prediction/projections coming out... For the Big East predictions, most have Marquette finishing anywhere in that 3-6 range. Not that they mean much, but it's fun for discussional purposes. Collegehoops.net has your Eagles at 27. They've got to the top 20 and still no SIU, meaning we're going to be in the top 19. Like you said, means absolutely nothing but it's fun to look at and discuss.

http://chicago.whitesox.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb...sp&c_id=cws Pretty good article. I especially like this quote from Lance: "If I get my shot for the White Sox, I'll find a way to get the job done. That's what good pitchers do."

QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Oct 25, 2006 -> 03:21 PM) Technically speaking it seems attitude is the big reason the Mets are open to getting rid of him. I've also seen him make some horrible mistakes in the field, but thats totally understandable considering he's a rookie. The question is how much of the attitude is because he's in NY. Either way I'll take Mike Pelfrey. If we want to go young in LF we have Sweeney or Fields. Pelfrey dominated AA in his 12 games, pitched well in his only AAA game and while he's been rushed he has front of the rotation stuff and was able to get his feet wet at the major league level part of last season. I'd take Pelfrey as well and it's not even close for me. But as far as Milledge goes can I ask why the attitude concerns? Cause I remember him getting fined(I believe) for high fiving some fans after a homer but what exactly has he done wrong? Honest question, cause I really don't remember.

QUOTE(whitesoxfan99 @ Oct 25, 2006 -> 03:03 PM) ND scored a TD to make the score 27-20 with a little over 5 minutes left and then OSU on their next drive scored a TD. Gracias, that's what I thought.

QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Oct 25, 2006 -> 02:50 PM) I thought at one point we recovered a fumble or something (only to have it reviewed and over-turned) or had a TD come back that could have tied it and than OSU instead shut the door. But if ND wasn't outclassed speed wise in the secondary it would have been more of a game. However, it was the type of game that even when it got close I really didn't think ND would win. But thats cause OSU was clearly the 3rd best team in the country. However that OSU team is probably national champs most years, but it just happened that two of the best teams in college history both happened to appear in 05 (Texas and USC). You might be right. I just remember feeling that ND never really had a shot.

QUOTE(He_Gawn @ Oct 25, 2006 -> 02:39 PM) Blown out again? it was 34-20 and Notre Dame had the ball with under 5 minutes left and had a chance to tie the game. But they didnt and OSU scored with a minute left. Thats far from a blowout. IIRC ND scored with about 5 minutes left to get the game within a td. So ya, blowout wasn't the appropiate term to use here but irrc they never actually had a chance to tie the game up.

QUOTE(Steff @ Oct 25, 2006 -> 02:06 PM) Yes.. what Jackie said.. :rolleyes Hell, I'm not going to give you or Gage any credit. I was going to jump into the whole argument but I just decided to stay out of it. I'm almost positive you guys are correct, I just can't find anything to back it up at the moment.