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melky is one slow mofo.

Good one Todd, idiot.

QUOTE (Scoots @ Jun 10, 2017 -> 07:29 PM) I know it is a small accomplishment...but nice to see Davidson watch a slider outside for a ball. personally i don't think his problem is as much pitch recognition as inability to catch up to fastballs.

Davidson occasionally will really turn on the ball.

that's bulls***

Man the Sox are really committed to this tank, I give them that. Running Holmberg out there again with so many innings already banked by the pen so far this week is a sign of true commitment to sucking.

QUOTE (Scoots @ Jun 9, 2017 -> 08:53 PM) It's like clockwork...you know he's gonna throw the slider. Davidson's atbathat's annoying to me. I've seen more than a few times where you know he's getting a low 90s fastball down the middle, and you know he's looking for it, but he just swings right through it like someone blew him away with a 100 mph pitch. He has no pitch recognition capabilities. He's a right handed adam Dunn who can play 3rd. He might have a future...but he's got a few more years of work left before he can even be considered a decent bench player in my opinion. From what I've seen, he xoesnt know how to adjust. He should start working out in the corner OF and 1B. Would drastically increase his chances of carving out a MLB career as a platoon bat.

None of these 5th starters will have much trade value. Holland, Migo, Shields, Pelfrey, all of 'em. Might get a C+ prospect back at best.

QUOTE (maxjusttyped @ Jun 9, 2017 -> 08:35 PM) Turns out even for Frazier a BABIP below .200 isn't sustainable.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 9, 2017 -> 08:34 PM) Frazier looks darn good He's so much more balanced now. He's not flying open any more. He'd have missed that pitch by 6 inches last month.

HOW THE f*** DO YOU GET THROWN OUT ON THAT?

Klubot malfunction.

QUOTE (maxjusttyped @ Jun 9, 2017 -> 07:00 PM) He's such a mediocre player. -20 fielder with a slightly below average bat? No thanks. I posted the other day he is the walking definition of a 1 WAR player.

I'm so f***ing sick of Melky.

This game is...in a rain delay.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jun 9, 2017 -> 12:55 PM) Fangraphs called Avi's demise a month and a half ago. I think the projection then was .255 with 15 or 16 homers. The guy said sell for anything. He is going to come back to the pack a bit, but he's been awesome. If you can be "lucky" for a third of a major league season, I'll take it. He's been almost a 3.0 WAR. I think it's time to give him credit rather for what he's done rather than someone trying to project what he "should" have done. His last 405 plate appearances .302/.345/.515 Yea not bad, not bad at all. Still like to see him up that walk rate as he matures as a hitter.

I think that's the key takeaway here. He looks like a regular going forward, not a star probably, but a guy you can rely on for 2 WAR in a year you are trying to win 90+ games. His speed tool is finally translating a bit on the bases and in the field. You guys already did a lot of analysis on the peripherals so I'll just add that ZIPS thinks he's a 104 wRC+ hitter the rest of the way. And a brief aside on "stats guys": First stats guy I ever met was my HS coach. I was a big fish in a small N. MI pond looking to possibly play baseball in college on a partial ride (my peak was def summer between soph and junior year when I was invited to a couple regional showcases and did pretty well and I hit a HR at a wooden bat tourney at CMU...but then I found other things in life). He was a former GLIAC MVP at Ferris State that threw his career away with drugs and booze. He was an absolute stud, even in his 40s he'd take BP with a metal bat and he'd hit absolute bombs 400+ feet. Anyways, he was about as far from a "point head intellectual" as it gets. He swore like a sailor and always had a big ole dip in. That said, he introduced us to his spreadsheets which among other things, showed our OBP, OPS and ISO and K% and BB%. For pitchers he did similar. Nothing mind blowing, but pretty good for back in the mid 90s. My own career ended up fizzing out in DIII, where I managed a pretty s***ty 690 OPS over 300 odd career PA. But I rediscovered sabermetrics in my mid 20s after college in 2005 when people said the Sox were "lucky". I wanted to find out why people thought they were lucky. One thing led to another and eventually I found Tango's "linear weights" which forever changed how I watch the game -- for the better. If you haven't read about linear weights you should, it's the basis for WAR, among other things. https://triplesalley.wordpress.com/2011/03/...linear-weights/

Good stuff guys.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jun 9, 2017 -> 02:06 AM) I really think the people that want the Sox to lose every game would be a fascinating study for a thesis on the brain of a sports fan. I think it would be discovered that deep down you are oh, so content during a so-called rebuild because you can puff your chests out and brag to Cub fans and others who would normally mock you or console you after a loss. You don't have to have your pride out there night after night during the season, your mood dependent on whether the White Sox win or lose. Now, thanks to the "rebuild" (lol on rebuild), you can (illogically but in your minds logically) smile at the antagonistic Cub fan or friend and say, 'What? I wanted to lose tonight. I got exactly what I wanted, a loss." The Cub fan or other person mocking you or consoling you for the Sox loss might add, "Oh you wanted them to lose cause you've finally come to your senses and stopped being a Sox fan?" You then would respond: "No. I want them to lose cause we are rebuilding and I want us to get the No. 1 pick in the baseball draft preferably but top three would be OK I guess." And that fan would say, "Oh," and leave the scene with the same look we all had today after John McCain's bizarre conversation with Comey. Ha. Some fair points, some absurd ones. Quite a bit like Political Theatre. Luckily it's just baseball for us fans, at least mostly.

In 249 PA, Avi Garcia has a wRC+ of 146. That's good for 7th in the AL right around Carlos Correa and Nelson Cruz, among others. Def time to look at the peripherals again. Hopefully post it tmr morning.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 8, 2017 -> 09:05 PM) Hopefully he heals up, it's just shocking to see how much his numbers have collapsed. I just want him to do enough to get promoted small. sample. size. 21 years old (maybe 22 this week?).

QUOTE (JoshPR @ Jun 8, 2017 -> 07:49 PM) Team has the worst hitting approach ever. How does Steverson have a job? Tim Anderson and Davidson have to be the worst Can't turn chicken s*** into chicken salad.

QUOTE (knightni @ Jun 8, 2017 -> 03:08 PM) There's no news about a statue as of now. if they do a statue it has to be when he's posed like this:

QUOTE (hi8is @ Jun 8, 2017 -> 02:08 PM) Really love Beck's swing Great lower body action but IMO he could stand to clean up that cocking mechanism somewhat. Good looking athlete.

Renteria was brutal last night. From not challenging to getting absolutely pantsed on defensive positioning that left 3B wide open.